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Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« on: September 11, 2017, 04:51:26 pm »
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Clearly this poll only applies to people who own 1e Base and/or 1e Intrigue IRL. I am curious what everyone does in this regard. Any secret Secret Chamber admirers?
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 05:15:32 pm »
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The strictly true answer is I don't have enough card sleeves for both my 1e cards and their replacements, so I've retired all of them. For my own enjoyment of the game, I don't miss any of these cards. For teaching purposes I'd be tempted to include a couple of them for a game or two for a lesson on critical card evaluation (i.e. when is Woodcutter better than a Silver? What would it take for Adventurer to be better than a Gold?), but there are other ways to make those points.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 06:58:33 pm »
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Back when I only had Base and Seaside and played quite a few Base only IRL games, before 2nd Editions came out, I got fed up with boring games with lots of dead cards and decided to remove Spy, Thief, Woodcutter, Chancellor, Adventurer, Feast and Bureaucrat (Mine was a candidate as well but apparently people like it). I managed to convince my friends that this made the game far more enjoyable. Now that I have both 1st ed Base and 1st ed Intrigue I don't use any of the removed cards (and I didn't put Bureaucrat back in the box either).
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 09:22:13 pm »
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I only have 1st ed. base irl. Haven't played in a while, but I'm partial to all of them but Woodcutter. That's just too plain honestly, surprised it sees so much use. I mean I guess it isn't especially weak among removed cards. But why would I use it? Messenger is that and Chancellor plus the 'gifting' ability, and it's like I use that all the time. At least Thief can be made interesting, w/ good treasure you'd want to steal and not just trash(Bandit.) Spy can be nice w/ Jester and the like. Nothing special ofc but good enough.

Removed cards seem more traditional or something. Why I might want to use Feast when really there isn't any reason to.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 09:37:34 pm »
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I don't mind Secret Chamber
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 09:37:51 pm »
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I love alt vp and find great hall innocuous, so I've kept it in. I enjoy the surprise and risk factor of tribute so I've kept it. I still have coppersmith, but I honestly don't know why. And I still keep thief around because my nephews are obsessed with it. Also, I pretty much never play competitively irl, so weak cards get used more often.

The card I'm most happy is gone is spy. It was just unbearable to sit and watch people play it over and over only for it to have almost no effect on anything.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 09:49:08 pm »
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They sit in the back of one of my storage binders, but I never use them.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2017, 09:50:28 pm »
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I use Woodcutter and Feast. They're decent enough.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 12:18:30 am »
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In theory, I still use Coppersmith, but it hasn't come up since it was removed.

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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 01:33:41 am »
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Great Hall was always a good acquisition near end game with an extra buy and three coins left. I still keep it in.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 08:22:04 am »
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I got rid of them all (gave away my first edition sets) and honestly I haven't missed any of them one bit.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 10:49:53 am »
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I still have spy.

Yeah, it's bad, and it's time consuming, but my friend's daughter thinks it's hilarious to tell all the adults around the table what to do

And by extension, we all love watching her do it. When she actually hits a good card that does make a difference, we'll loudly bemoan the loss for her benefit so she can cackle with glee!
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 11:31:27 am »
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All 12. The fact that they're not in second edition makes no difference at all to me using them.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 11:32:39 am »
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All of them. Why should I not ? I don't own 2ed, not going to exclude cards just because they were replaced in it.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 11:45:38 am »
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All of them. Why should I not ? I don't own 2ed, not going to exclude cards just because they were replaced in it.

I only play with a small subset of cards IRL, because carrying my entire Dominion collection around just isn't very practical. I change the setup sometimes (i.e. never because I don't play very often anyway) though.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 01:43:09 pm »
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I own Base 1e, but don't play with them.  The fewer cards to choose from makes up for the more interesting cards that I have.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 03:37:45 pm »
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The only one I kept was Coppersmith, and it has replaced Woodcutter when I teach new players. By far my least favorite 1E card removed was Secret Chamber, so I haven't been playing with that one for a long time.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2017, 01:45:04 pm »
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I kept Saboteur and Coppersmith for being the most interesting.  Using binders, I had room for 2 cards to be saved - though would have been better to keep 1 base 1 Intrigue.  I would like Woodcutter and Thief as well but not enough to stick them in some other set.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 01:50:42 am »
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I love alt vp and find great hall innocuous, so I've kept it in. I enjoy the surprise and risk factor of tribute so I've kept it. I still have coppersmith, but I honestly don't know why. And I still keep thief around because my nephews are obsessed with it. Also, I pretty much never play competitively irl, so weak cards get used more often.
For one of my groups, there would be a rush for it, so consider that an empty pile

The card I'm most happy is gone is spy. It was just unbearable to sit and watch people play it over and over only for it to have almost no effect on anything.
I usually don't figure out the combos first, but did manage to surprise everyone when I told them to leave their Gold on top.  Then came the Thief ;)
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 02:41:25 pm »
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Feast was cool in a necromancer game.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2017, 04:57:57 pm »
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With Thief around, that would REALLY muck with the Heirlooms.  For both better AND for worse.  And it's not like you just avoid it since you start off with it, but you can still lose it as it was apart of you to start!
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2017, 05:44:06 pm »
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I actually have used them.... as proxies for fan cards.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2017, 06:07:34 pm »
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Woodcutter. It's weak, but it's a simple card that doesn't take too contrived of a board to serve a meaningful role.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 06:18:54 pm »
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I have all the expansions/2nd editions and include all the banned cards. I don't have the problems/issues with any of the cards that others have.

We draw random and deal with what we get. Any card, good or bad, can be useless/useful in any given set. Every kingdom we draw is fun to play. Some kingdoms are just tougher to figure out, which is what it's about, right?

No veto. No exclusions. No whining about likes and dislikes.
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Re: Which Removed Cards Do You Use IRL?
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2017, 04:57:39 pm »
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I have all the expansions/2nd editions and include all the banned cards. I don't have the problems/issues with any of the cards that others have.

We draw random and deal with what we get. Any card, good or bad, can be useless/useful in any given set. Every kingdom we draw is fun to play. Some kingdoms are just tougher to figure out, which is what it's about, right?

No veto. No exclusions. No whining about likes and dislikes.

I would argue that weak cards make for kingdoms that are easier to figure out, but this was discussed ad nauseam when second edition came out so maybe I should have kept my mouth shut.
I only miss those cards for sentimental reasons, and have used them all as proxies for fan cards.
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