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Dominion Confessions
« on: September 09, 2017, 01:27:31 pm »
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I never really know what's going on on Possession boards. I just buy cards and build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 01:59:51 pm »
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I never really know what's going on on Procession boards. I just buy cards and build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 02:26:56 pm »
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I never really know what's going on on Dominion boards. I just buy cards and build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2017, 03:03:12 pm »
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I never really know what's going on in board games. I just buy cards, lay tiles, say some words, or build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2017, 03:27:20 pm »
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I never really know what's going on. I just buy food for a while, then kind of wing it.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2017, 03:54:13 pm »
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What's going on in this thread?
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2017, 04:08:25 pm »
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What's going on in this thread?

I never really know what's going on in any thread. I just post a bunch of stuff, kind of winging it
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 04:34:37 pm »
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I've been visiting this forum quite a while. Reading your tactical advice and stuff. Sometimes I think "i will introduce myself". Then i just let that tought go by.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 04:48:13 pm »
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I've been visiting this forum quite a while. Reading your tactical advice and stuff. Sometimes I think "i will introduce myself". Then i just let that tought go by.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2017, 06:26:17 pm »
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Luke never knew what was going on with the Death Star. He just kind of whines about power converters and then kind of X-Wings it.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2017, 12:40:02 am »
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I'll be the one to end the joke!

Serious confession: I buy Treasure Map far more often than I would like to admit, despite fully understanding that without Alms or a good sifter there are typically better things I could be spending my $4 on...
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2017, 12:52:42 am »
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I'll be the one to end the joke!

Serious confession: I buy Treasure Map far more often than I would like to admit, despite fully understanding that without Alms or a good sifter there are typically better things I could be spending my $4 on...

Ah, Treasure Map.  The payoff is such a thrill, I can understand what people see in gambling.  Getting that hit on turn 5... nothing better.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2017, 02:11:49 am »
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Missed opportunity of confession bear meme.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2017, 09:38:21 am »
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I think the only Dominion card I hate as much as Possession is the Peasant/Teacher line. The Page line is infinitely more interesting.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2017, 09:41:52 am »
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Whenever I play against my wife, I feel really guilty when I put together a big turn. I don't she means to make me feel bad, but it happens. Doesn't usually stop me though.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2017, 10:38:08 am »
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Whenever I play against my wife, I feel really guilty when I put together a big turn. I don't she means to make me feel bad, but it happens. Doesn't usually stop me though.

Reminds me of a 4-player game where no one was paying attention through my long turns. I basically had to say "hey guys, pay attention this time" because I was going to do a bunch of Upgrade tricks and end the game (and no one else realized we were even close to that point yet).
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2017, 10:43:51 am »
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Whenever I play against my wife, I feel really guilty when I put together a big turn. I don't she means to make me feel bad, but it happens. Doesn't usually stop me though.

Reminds me of a 4-player game where no one was paying attention through my long turns. I basically had to say "hey guys, pay attention this time" because I was going to do a bunch of Upgrade tricks and end the game (and no one else realized we were even close to that point yet).
I hate it when nobody pays attention.  Sucks the fun out of the game.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2017, 10:59:17 am »
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Whenever I play against my wife, I feel really guilty when I put together a big turn. I don't she means to make me feel bad, but it happens. Doesn't usually stop me though.

Reminds me of a 4-player game where no one was paying attention through my long turns. I basically had to say "hey guys, pay attention this time" because I was going to do a bunch of Upgrade tricks and end the game (and no one else realized we were even close to that point yet).

I hate it when it's a 4-player game. Sucks the fun out of the game.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 11:35:21 am »
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Almost every other game, I'm muttering "so freaking unlucky" to myself with my hand in my face. I've gotten about 20 Golden Sombreros in 900 games online, but I know I don't really get super unlucky in general- I'm just bad  :P
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 03:58:29 pm »
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Whenever I play against my wife, I feel really guilty when I put together a big turn. I don't she means to make me feel bad, but it happens. Doesn't usually stop me though.

Reminds me of a 4-player game where no one was paying attention through my long turns. I basically had to say "hey guys, pay attention this time" because I was going to do a bunch of Upgrade tricks and end the game (and no one else realized we were even close to that point yet).
I hate it when nobody pays attention.  Sucks the fun out of the game.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 05:22:30 pm »
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Donate games stress me out because they quickly expose my poor decisions.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 07:51:00 pm »
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I often open with Shanty Town as I tell myself, "But it could be a lab! How can it be a bad opening‽"
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 08:23:48 pm »
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Donate games stress me out because they quickly expose my poor decisions.
The poor stress me out because they quickly expose my donating decisions.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2017, 01:25:25 pm »
+2

I still haven't played with every card in Empires, let alone every card-shaped thing.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2017, 06:21:19 pm »
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I often violate the Penultimate Province Rule because I think my opponent probably doesn't have 8 and I don't want to play through a dragged-out, increasingly sloggish game. I usually regret this.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2017, 09:37:42 pm »
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I often violate the Penultimate Province Rule because I think my opponent probably doesn't have 8 and I don't want to play through a dragged-out, increasingly sloggish game. I usually regret this.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2017, 09:43:13 pm »
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Aside from the old days of BSW, pretty much all the dominion games I've played are 3p or more. Quite a few 5p, even.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2017, 05:16:24 am »
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I never really know what's going on on Possession boards. I just buy cards and build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.
I never really know what's going on on Procession boards. I just buy cards and build a deck for a while, then kind of wing it.

My confession: It took me quite a while to work out the difference between these two posts.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2017, 12:30:25 pm »
+10

Will Nocturne have a Precession card?

(Overlord, being generic, should clearly have been called Profession.)
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2017, 12:45:55 pm »
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(Overlord, being generic, should clearly have been called Profession.)

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 12:17:03 pm »
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I'm not trying (very hard) to get better.

I don't want my less serious play groups to feel like they can't win. And I don't want to handicap myself.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2017, 09:18:42 am »
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I rarely post here because I don't think I'll add anything meaningful to the conversation.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2017, 09:43:45 am »
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I rarely post here because I don't think I'll add anything meaningful to the conversation.
Don't worry, you'll get over it eventually.
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2017, 09:44:40 am »
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I rarely post here because I don't think I'll add anything meaningful to the conversation.

Doesn't stop me from posting.

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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2017, 10:05:56 am »
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2017, 05:09:44 pm »
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I miss Stash
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2017, 06:54:11 pm »
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I Inherited Treasure Maps, then thought I could fix the problem by buying a few real ones and trashing one with an Estate.
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2017, 09:31:24 pm »
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I Inherited Treasure Maps, then thought I could fix the problem by buying a few real ones and trashing one with an Estate.

I mean, if it's the only way to trash Estates, maybe it's worth it
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2017, 09:45:03 pm »
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I Inherited Treasure Maps, then thought I could fix the problem by buying a few real ones and trashing one with an Estate.

I mean, if it's the only way to trash Estates, maybe it's worth it


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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2017, 08:45:56 pm »
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I hate Peasant because deep down...

...I'm not very good with it.
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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2017, 09:05:10 pm »
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Today was the first time I ever bought Artificer.  Not because I don't believe that it can be good, just because I am lazy and I haven't ever really thought about how to use it well.

On a similar note, I think I've only bought storyteller once for the same reason.
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2017, 09:31:10 pm »
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Today I wanted to use multiple Courtyards to make my Menagerie more viable. I realized my mistake when my deck was already pretty much built.
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2017, 10:05:57 pm »
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I will pretty much always go for the neat interaction/apparent combo even if I strongly suspect that it will lose to any competently built money deck.
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2017, 10:14:20 pm »
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I have a big weakness for double Tactician decks. Whenever I see it on the board with pretty much any virtual money I'll go for it, and usually lose.
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« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2017, 01:51:09 am »
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I have a big weakness for double Tactician decks. Whenever I see it on the board with pretty much any virtual money I'll go for it, and usually lose.

Ditto! Once I played double Tac with Squire being the only virtual money, god that was awful
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2017, 05:49:14 am »
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« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2017, 03:39:28 am »
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1a. I haven't played IRL in the last year.
1b. IRL, I only own Dominion Base (1st ed).
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2017, 02:41:15 pm »
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« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2017, 06:02:59 pm »
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I miss Stash

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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2017, 08:41:49 pm »
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« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2017, 08:46:54 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2017, 05:35:48 pm »
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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2017, 05:39:00 pm »
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Today I opened Steward/Baron then wrote "ah damn - shelters'
Good thinking, that way you can trash the Baron with Steward!
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2017, 10:20:17 pm »
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I've never owned a physical copy of Dominion. I last played IRL over a year ago. I never paid for sets on Making Fun. I didn't buy a gold subscription until the ShuffleIT tournament required it. Bureaucrat is one of my favorite cards. I have never bought Miser because I was too lazy to figure out how to use it.
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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2017, 11:34:01 pm »
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I miss 1E cards... especially Scout!
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2017, 03:40:46 am »
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This just happened in a championship match. (not the Discord chat, the chat happened afterwards)

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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2017, 10:10:38 pm »
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I bought a Wild Hunt when my opponent had already been going for it instead of a second Patrol while Mill was on the board. (I won anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that I should have bought a second Patrol)
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« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2017, 05:06:28 am »
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I bought a Wild Hunt when my opponent had already been going for it instead of a second Patrol while Mill was on the board. (I won anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that I should have bought a second Patrol)

You have to buy Wild Hunt every time. With the second Patrol, it's pretty likely you would have lost instead.

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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2017, 05:16:02 pm »
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I bought a Wild Hunt when my opponent had already been going for it instead of a second Patrol while Mill was on the board. (I won anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that I should have bought a second Patrol)

You have to buy Wild Hunt every time. With the second Patrol, it's pretty likely you would have lost instead.

I respectfully disagree. The Patrol would have made my engine more consistent, and my opponent would have had to spend more time building up the . He only ever bought one Wild Hunt, which was a mistake on his part, which probably helped some (a lot) as well
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Re: Dominion Confessions
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2017, 06:11:33 pm »
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I bought a Wild Hunt when my opponent had already been going for it instead of a second Patrol while Mill was on the board. (I won anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that I should have bought a second Patrol)

You have to buy Wild Hunt every time. With the second Patrol, it's pretty likely you would have lost instead.

I respectfully disagree. The Patrol would have made my engine more consistent, and my opponent would have had to spend more time building up the . He only ever bought one Wild Hunt, which was a mistake on his part, which probably helped some (a lot) as well

If you don't get a Wild Hunt, your opponent can just get 203947852039487520394875209348750239486709246790 tokens on the pile while nothing is junking his deck or limiting his potential VP gain. Just a single Wild Hunt is enough to prevent that from happening; then he has to use his last Wild Hunt to gain an Estate every turn.

Of course it helped a lot that he didn't buy more than one Wild Hunt (he should have bought 9 of them), but you can't really count on that.

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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2017, 10:53:04 am »
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I once tried building an engine payloading mass Bridge off of Shanty Town and Patrol.

The math: playing Shanty Town plus Patrol nets one card. To play n Bridges I need to play n-1 villages; for n=5 I need to draw 4 cards, for which I need 4xShanty+4xPatrol (and I need to not draw whatever trasher is stuck in my deck). Note that n=6 requires 5xShanty for the payload and 6xShanty to draw all that with Patrol; only cheaters buy 11xShanty.

So that's a deck of 8xShanty, 4xPatrol, 5xBridge, a trasher, and probably an extra Shanty/Patrol pair to draw past the trasher, which is obviously super fast to build. Note that this is enough to single Province. I can probably add in a Gold if I add an extra Shanty/Patrol pair to draw it, to double Province.

Of course, you should continue adding Shanty/Patrol pairs as you green to draw past your green cards.

That was an unmitigated disaster, but it's great fun retrospectively ;D
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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2017, 02:04:25 pm »
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Today is just not my day

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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2017, 02:09:04 pm »
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Today is just not my day



Was that t3/4?

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« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2017, 02:20:35 pm »
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 Turn 3 :'(
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« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2017, 02:44:56 pm »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

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« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2017, 03:02:59 pm »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

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« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2017, 04:20:22 pm »
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Well, that's the mathematical odds. The actual odds are more like 50%.

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« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2017, 06:01:58 pm »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

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Strictly speaking that's a probability, not an odds. :)
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« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2017, 09:47:53 pm »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

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Strictly speaking that's a probability, not an odds. :)

I don't know if this is a problem with my English or with my Maths, can you illuminate me?
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« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2017, 10:09:18 pm »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

You're welcome!

Strictly speaking that's a probability, not an odds. :)

I don't know if this is a problem with my English or with my Maths, can you illuminate me?

The probability of something happening is represented as a ratio of two numbers that represent the likelihood of the event vs. all possibilities. The odds is a ratio of two numbers that represent the likelihood of the event vs. all other possibilities.

So, if you flip two coins, the probability of getting two heads is 1/4: 4 possible outcomes, one of which is the one you want.
The odds of getting two heads is 1/3: 1 outcome you want, and 3 outcomes you don't want.
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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2017, 10:11:38 pm »
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(Which means that probability is a number between 0 and 1, and odds is a number between zero and infinity, which means they're useful for different sorts of calculations.)
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« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2017, 02:05:20 am »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

You're welcome!

Strictly speaking that's a probability, not an odds. :)

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AJD nailed the explanation.

Only pedants, statisticians and gamblers really care about the difference.

In day-to-day usage, most people use the terms "odds" and "probability" interchangeably.
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« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2017, 03:52:56 am »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

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« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2017, 08:30:11 am »
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Odds of that happening on either turn 3 or turn 4 are 1/396, so roughly 0.25%.

You're welcome!

"Never tell me the odds"

That's probably a good idea.
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« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2017, 06:22:19 pm »
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The odds of getting two heads is 1/3: 1 outcome you want, and 3 outcomes you don't want.
A small but important correction: Odds are notated with a colon, not a slash. So the odds of getting two heads are 1:3 (pronounced "one to three"). Also, "odds" is plural, you say "the odds are" rather than "the odds is". Both of them do sound kind of weird though.

Traditionally, odds are worded as being "against" the less likely outcome, so that the first number is larger than the second. So in this case, you'd say that the odds against getting two heads are 3:1. As for why this is the case... my best guess is that odds are most often used for betting, and in that context you can then interpret the odds as a fraction that indicates how much of your bet you get back if you win. For instance, if I put up $100 on a 3:1 bet and won, I would get $400 back, resulting in a net gain of $300, which is 3/1 times the amount I paid.
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« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2017, 12:20:15 am »
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The odds of getting two heads is 1/3: 1 outcome you want, and 3 outcomes you don't want.
A small but important correction: Odds are notated with a colon, not a slash. So the odds of getting two heads are 1:3 (pronounced "one to three").

Yeah, true, fair enough. But the logarithm of it is still –1.1, so mathematically it's the same as the fraction 1/3.

(uhhhh log-odds are the context in which I'm most likely to interact with odds in my day-to-day life, see)
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« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2017, 03:45:05 am »
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I've used Overlord to copy Reserve cards.   Plural.. I've done it more than once :(
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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2017, 12:55:06 am »
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If there's no other +buy on the board, I sometimes get Death Cart in the desperate hope there's Ruined Market somewhere in there.
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« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2017, 05:47:14 pm »
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I've used Overlord to copy Reserve cards.   Plural.. I've done it more than once :(

I just used Overlord as Ratcatcher deliberately: Ratcatcher was the only (remaining) cantrip in the supply, and I was desperately hoping to draw a Treasure so I could play my other Overlord as Stables. (It worked!)
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