Dominion Strategy Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: [1] 2  All

Author Topic: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion  (Read 1651 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« on: September 06, 2017, 03:23:28 am »
+5

Hi. This is an announcement I suppose. Amoffett and I (and maybe Breppert) are going to organize a World Cup sometime in early 2018. The date isn't set in stone yet. For now, I am trying to generate interest/come up with ways to potentially improve the WC. For now the rules will be the same as last time around, but that could change. For example, How would teams be grouped? Should there be a second US team/Japan team? Should it be mandatory for each player to own all expansions? Should there be a refugee team for countries that cannot fill a roster? How are team captains decided? There are all sorts of avenues to explore and I think it's worthwhile to generate some civil discussion about it all.
Logged
the weed whackers will return

dedicateddan

  • Duke
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 351
  • Shuffle iT Username: dan brooks
  • Respect: +693
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 04:38:38 am »
+4

Awesome! A lot of players in the US - so two teams would be nice
Logged

Awaclus

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9888
  • Shuffle iT Username: Awaclus
  • (。 ω 。`)
  • Respect: +9891
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 07:37:39 am »
+2

I think that by default, each country should have one team. Having more than one team per country or more than one country per team should only be done on a case-by-case basis if we need more teams after each country with 4 players has gotten one. Which is probably going to be the case, but it shouldn't be the default thing to do.

Just picking the highest ranked player as the captain should be fine. The only other way is basically to let the teams elect a captain on their own, which is almost certainly always just going to be the highest ranked player anyway, and either way it just makes things less convenient.

I don't think owning expansions should be mandatory. It hasn't been mandatory in the past and it has never caused any problems, and now we have second edition Base for the non-subscribers which is way better than first edition.
Logged
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way

The Twitch channel where I stream DominionThe YouTube channel where I make musicDownload my band's new 2017 album for free

Lekkit

  • 2011 Swedish Champion
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1242
  • Shuffle iT Username: Lekkit
  • Respect: +662
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 08:04:55 am »
+2

Already interested. ;)
Logged

McGarnacle

  • Saboteur
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1030
  • Shuffle iT Username: McGarnacle
  • So, ya like doughnuts, eh?
  • Respect: +549
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 08:10:45 am »
+4

Man, I thought this was about the actual 2018 World Cup.
Logged
This is exactly the kind of deep analysis I come to f.ds for. 

Forum Mafia Record
Town 1/2 50%
Scum 0/0 0%

drsteelhammer

  • Torturer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1503
  • Shuffle iT Username: drsteelhammer
  • Respect: +1397
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 09:17:31 am »
+3

Man, I thought this was about the actual 2018 World Cup.

Don't be so socceronormative!
Logged
Join the Dominion League!

There is no bad shuffle that can not be surmounted by scorn.

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 10:02:05 am »
0

Man, I thought this was about the actual 2018 World Cup.

It is!  ;)
Logged
the weed whackers will return

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 11:02:18 am »
0

Something I am leaning towards is more general secondary teams. Instead of having two USA teams, there could be a USA team and an Americas (North & South America) team. Instead of two Japanese teams, there could be a Japanese and an Asian team. Then conceivably there could be Russia, Netherlands, Germany, and Europe as teams to make 8. This is a silly hypothetical, and it all depends on eventual turn out.
Logged
the weed whackers will return

gloures

  • Young Witch
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 141
  • Shuffle iT Username: gloures
  • Respect: +131
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 11:58:50 am »
+2

I have recently discovered that there is a semi-active brazilian Dominion community (it seems mostly focused on IRL play, but there are some people who seem to play online), so it might be possible to form a brazilian team (albeit not a very competitive one...), if it's ok with organizers, and there is interest from other people, other cool ideas might be a Latin America team (I believe Canada can make it's own team, right?), or even a Southern Hemisphere team (best players from half the globe!...) Still have no idea if either of those would actually  have enough players...     
Logged

Qvist

  • Mountebank
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2348
  • Shuffle iT Username: Qvist
  • Respect: +3881
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 12:24:27 pm »
+3

I might be interested to play as this would mean I won't lose 0-6 against drsteelhammer again.
Logged

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 01:30:36 pm »
+1

I have recently discovered that there is a semi-active brazilian Dominion community (it seems mostly focused on IRL play, but there are some people who seem to play online), so it might be possible to form a brazilian team (albeit not a very competitive one...), if it's ok with organizers, and there is interest from other people, other cool ideas might be a Latin America team (I believe Canada can make it's own team, right?), or even a Southern Hemisphere team (best players from half the globe!...) Still have no idea if either of those would actually  have enough players...   

I mean it all depends on the turnout. I'm just talking theory right now, I have no idea how it will go. It could be nobody in the US wants to play, or that suddenly France can field 2 really good teams. I have no idea until the actual turnout happens. :P

Balancing good teams with countries playing is the main trick.
Logged
the weed whackers will return

diedre91

  • Thief
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 91
  • Shuffle iT Username: Diedre
  • Respect: +51
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 02:49:46 pm »
+2

I am also interested. I would be part of the "not very competitive" Brazilian team (alongside gloures :))).
How many players are required to make a team?
Logged

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 10:07:54 am »
+1

I am also interested. I would be part of the "not very competitive" Brazilian team (alongside gloures :))).
How many players are required to make a team?

That is actually not set in stone. Last time around it was 4 players a team with reserves, but it could just as easily be 5.
Logged
the weed whackers will return

ashersky

  • Mountebank
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2319
  • 2013/2014/2015 Mafia Mod of the Year
  • Respect: +1500
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2017, 10:41:27 am »
0

How will you confirm nationalities?  If a player competed for one country in the past, can they play for another if they naturalize?  Any restrictions on amateur vs. pro?
Logged
f.ds Mafia Board Moderator

2013, 2014, 2015 Mafia Mod of the Year

Games (30): Mafia: 17, 21, 24, 31, 39, 43, 67, 72, 86 || Newbie: 7 || RMM: 6, 7, 10, 20, 22, 26, 32, 45 || Blitz: 4-7, X, 17-19, 22, 24 || BM: 14, 19

2015 f.ds Representative, World Forum Mafia Championships
2013, 2014 Mafia Player of the Year (Tie)

Town: 46 Games, 23 Wins
Scum: 22 Games, 13 Wins
11x MVP: M30, M83, ZM16, M25, M38, M61, M76, RMM5, RMM41, RMM46, M51

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 12:38:42 pm »
0

How will you confirm nationalities?  If a player competed for one country in the past, can they play for another if they naturalize?  Any restrictions on amateur vs. pro?

Good questions.

1. I think it will be up to the person playing where they want to play, assuming they have citizenships for both places. If not, then they're stuck with wherever they are. Of course, I would imagine there would be exceptions for people newly migrating to other countries, and they can pick which team they're on. It'll all be in signups whenever that gets going.

2. I would want a standard of quality with all of the teams. How I would enforce that, I don't know. But if a team is say, 4 people from a given country and maybe one of them are above rating 50, I don't know if that should be a legitimate team, given the past entrees. It depends on how many countries we're getting. It could be for the sake of balance that we group nations into a single team for a more competitive experience.

All of this is speculative, and I'm glad these questions are being asked. I want the best situation for anyone, so feel free to leave suggestions!
« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 12:39:43 pm by Seprix »
Logged
the weed whackers will return

bouchon

  • Steward
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
  • Shuffle iT Username: bouchon
  • Respect: +10
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2017, 06:46:14 am »
+3

If there is enough french dominion players, i'll be glad to be part of the team France.
Logged

markusin

  • Cartographer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3255
  • Shuffle iT Username: markusin
  • I also switched from Starcraft
  • Respect: +1867
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 10:06:36 am »
0

I have recently discovered that there is a semi-active brazilian Dominion community (it seems mostly focused on IRL play, but there are some people who seem to play online), so it might be possible to form a brazilian team (albeit not a very competitive one...), if it's ok with organizers, and there is interest from other people, other cool ideas might be a Latin America team (I believe Canada can make it's own team, right?), or even a Southern Hemisphere team (best players from half the globe!...) Still have no idea if either of those would actually  have enough players...   

For the last (Dominion) World Cup, Canada failed to form a team. Only two players (including me) signed up. The World Cup before that Canada did have five or six players in the team.

Some sort of "Rest of Americas" team can help Canada as well.
Logged

Joseph2302

  • Jester
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 829
  • Shuffle iT Username: Joseph2302
  • "Better to be lucky than good"
  • Respect: +541
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 12:48:46 pm »
0

Can I sign up for a country I'm not related to?
Logged
Mafia Stats:
Town: 21 games, 8 wins
Scum: 5 games, 3 wins

LaLight

  • Minion
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 564
  • Shuffle iT Username: LaLight
  • Because I'm a potato
  • Respect: +647
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 12:49:51 pm »
0

Can I sign up for a country I'm not related to?

We'll be glad to see you in our Russia team.
Logged
Wow where is all this LaLight love coming from all of the sudden?

Wins: M87, M85, M92, M99, M107, RMM37, RMM39, RMM44, RMM45, BM24, M86, M94, M95, M100, ZM24
Losses: M88, M90, RMM38, NM8, NM9, M97, M106, RMM46, ZM23, NM10, M108
Draws: RMM40
MVPs: RMM39, RMM44
Mod/Co-mod: RMM37, M89, M93, M91, M96, RMM41, M98, M101, M102, M104, M105, M109

jsh357

  • Margrave
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2510
  • Shuffle iT Username: jsh357
  • Respect: +4111
    • View Profile
    • JSH Gaming: Original games
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 01:38:37 pm »
+4

You will be required to send pictures of your nation's driver's license or equivalent to my PM folder. Please also include scans of your credit card in advance in case I need to pay for copies of your identification.
Logged
Join the Dominion community Discord channel! Chat in text and voice; enter dumb tournaments; spy on top players!

https://discord.gg/2rDpJ4N

gamesou

  • Apprentice
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 268
  • Respect: +292
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2017, 03:28:21 am »
0

If there is enough french dominion players, i'll be glad to be part of the team France.

I'd happily join you!
Logged
Designer of Chronos Conquest

bouchon

  • Steward
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
  • Shuffle iT Username: bouchon
  • Respect: +10
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2017, 06:29:38 am »
0

If there is enough french dominion players, i'll be glad to be part of the team France.

I'd happily join you!

Aaah :) I always wondered if there is a french Dominion community. Glad to know we are at least two ^^
Logged

Joseph2302

  • Jester
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 829
  • Shuffle iT Username: Joseph2302
  • "Better to be lucky than good"
  • Respect: +541
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2017, 04:36:00 pm »
0

Can I sign up for a country I'm not related to?

We'll be glad to see you in our Russia team.
Sure, why not?
I'm English not British anyway, so playing for the Russian team would be just as foreign as playing for the British team.
Logged
Mafia Stats:
Town: 21 games, 8 wins
Scum: 5 games, 3 wins

Seprix

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5286
  • Shuffle iT Username: Seprix
  • Respect: +2953
    • View Profile
    • The Border Village
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2017, 05:25:05 pm »
+1

Can I sign up for a country I'm not related to?

Um the entire point is you're playing for your country. If that's thrown out the window, what point is there in a World Cup?
Logged
the weed whackers will return

Awaclus

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9888
  • Shuffle iT Username: Awaclus
  • (。 ω 。`)
  • Respect: +9891
    • View Profile
Re: World Cup 2018 Interest Thread & Discussion
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2017, 06:26:44 pm »
+1

If you can play for any country's team, then I suspect Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic might do pretty well in the tournament.
Logged
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way

The Twitch channel where I stream DominionThe YouTube channel where I make musicDownload my band's new 2017 album for free
Pages: [1] 2  All
 

Page created in 0.114 seconds with 21 queries.