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The bad luck thread
« on: July 24, 2017, 08:44:07 am »
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We have interesting moments, uninteresting moments, semi-interesting moments... but I don't see a thread for just complaining about bad luck.

Anyway, I had this come up yesterday in a IRL 2 player game:

I opened Silver/Potion so I could get a jump on Scrying Pool. My opponent opened Silver/Monument. Turn 3 was and no , so I bought a Monument. Turn 4... and no . Knowing my Potion had missed the reshuffle, I bought a second Potion.

Turn 5... Potion, Potion, Copper, Shelter, Shelter.

Although my opponent (who had only played fewer than a dozen games of Dominion before) played great with buying up most of the Cities and Monuments; I managed to pull off a win with Scrying Pools anyway.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 10:08:32 am »
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 10:49:34 am »
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We have interesting moments, uninteresting moments, semi-interesting moments... but I don't see a thread for just complaining about bad luck.

Now we just need threads for good luck and mediocre luck.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 02:40:44 pm »
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We have interesting moments, uninteresting moments, semi-interesting moments... but I don't see a thread for just complaining about bad luck.

Now we just need threads for good luck and mediocre luck.

They'll all end up just consisting of debates about which thread each post belongs in anyway.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 12:41:39 pm »
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I recently failed to collide a Chapel with any of my Estates in three consecutive shuffles to start a game.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 08:47:15 pm »
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Probably my most frustrating bad luck experience was an IRL game, some years ago. Since it was a long time ago I don't really remember the details. But basically, Lookout was on the board. Nobody else went for it (they were mostly beginners). I was running a deck that, I don't remember the details, but I really wanted to get rid of my Estates for it. Not only did my Lookout never trash an Estate in the entire game, but on I think the second and maybe third or fourth time I used it it hit three other cards I'd bought, forcing me to trash something useful twice. The end result was that one Lookout probably trashed something like four Copper and two or three Silvers over the course of the game.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2017, 12:48:53 am »
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Opponent opened 5/2 and got to open Sentry/Page. Sentry is the only trasher, except for Jack of All Trades. I opened Page/Jack, maybe a mistake in retrospect, but none of the alternatives seemed very appealing.
My Page was at the end of my 2nd shuffle so it misses reshuffle. At least I bought a 2nd page on turn 3.
My Treasure Hunter gains 3 Silvers, which I don't want because Sentry + Market Square is enough to gain all the Golds you want, after you get Champion online.
My two Warriors collide, but at least they don't miss the shuffle.
My opponent's Warrior discards the Hero I gained, delaying my Champion by another shuffle.
By the time I get Champion in play the game is resignable.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2017, 09:27:30 am »
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Alms game with Torturer and platinum. I started 4/3 (Smithy/ Silver), then drew 7 (Gold), 4 (Smithy).

Meanwhile, Lord Rattington was playing the following: 

Turn 1 - Lord Rattington
plays 5 Coppers
buys and gains a Torturer

Turn 2 - Lord Rattington
plays 2 Coppers

Turn 3 - Lord Rattington
plays a Torturer
draws 3 cards
plays 7 Coppers
buys and gains a Gold

Turn 4 - Lord Rattington
plays 2 Coppers
draws 5 cards

Turn 5 - Lord Rattington
plays a Torturer
draws 3 cards
plays 6 Coppers
and a Gold
buys and gains a Platinum

It felt brutal already, while I was playing, but copying the Log I realized that Lord Ratington did not even use Alms - twice! :o
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 06:16:37 pm »
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Turn 3:
C draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Lookout and a Potion

Turn 5:
C draws a Silver, 2 Estates, a Moneylender and a Potion

Turn 7:
C draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Lookout and a Potion

Bought first Alchemist on turn 10. Somehow up with 8 of them and won.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 06:52:55 pm »
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A few days later, and turn 3 was Estate-Estate-Estate-Moneylender-Silver. I think the universe is trying to make up for the difference in experience/skill between my friend and I.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 03:33:37 am »
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A few days later, and turn 3 was Estate-Estate-Estate-Moneylender-Silver. I think the universe is trying to make up for the difference in experience/skill between my friend and I.

By coincidence, today my turn 3 E/E/E/M/S screenshot was my Facebook memory from exactly 3 years ago.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 06:41:33 am »
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It looks that this is turning  into a meme thread.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 01:21:37 am »
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Turn 3 - madd4math
m plays a Swindler.
T trashes an Estate.
T gains an Estate.

Turn 4 - madd4math
m plays a Swindler.
T trashes an Estate.
T gains an Estate.

Turn 5 - madd4math
m plays a Procession.
m plays a Swindler.
T trashes an Estate.
T gains an Estate.
m plays a Swindler again.
T shuffles their deck.
T trashes an Estate.
T gains an Estate.
m trashes a Swindler.
m gains a Worker's Village.

My first 4 swindles all hit Estates.  The estates ran out turn 9 from all the swindlers hitting estates.
My swindles until turn 9: estate, estate, estate, estate, gold, copper, estate, curse, gold, copper, estate

My opponent's swindles until turn 9: copper, estate, estate

Amusingly, my opponent's turn 14 swindler hits the 9th estate of the game, giving me a lighthouse since all the estates ran out.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 08:22:25 am »
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Playing a three-player game with Knights and Cultists... Someone strung together Sir Bailey and another Knight early, revealing Copper and Cultist twice, killing all my junkers and knocking me out of the game. I then got to sit and watch them slug it out while they trashed whatever I bought and junked me.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 08:24:53 am »
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Was playing online and we had both greened our decks and were trying to get the last province. I had hit seven a lot, so instead of getting a Duchy, I got a Mandarin and topdecked 2 Silvers and a Bank. I then failed to draw any other treasure or action card for three turns until my opponent finally bought the province.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 09:23:38 am »
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Every time I've ever played a Treasure Map kingdom, one of two things would happen:

1. I ignore it, my opponent goes for it, and they crush me.

2. I try to get it, but fail, and fall behind as a result.

Last night, thanks to Baker, I went for it and they collided on Turn 4!

. . . which just made them easier pickings for Noble Brigand, and I lost anyways.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2017, 12:33:34 pm »
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2017, 05:32:22 pm »
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2017, 12:29:55 pm »
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I played game versus weaker player that initially ignored cultist. After opening silver/lookout got one cultist and next shuffle two more.
Next shuffle I played lookout vs 7 cards left. I didn't get choice trashed one cultist and discarded and could play only one with 9 ruins remaining.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2017, 03:16:07 pm »
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 03:24:47 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 04:13:25 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).

Ouch. OUCH.

Did your opponent have the presence of mind to offer sympathy?
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 05:08:38 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).

Well, that is quite remarkable indeed. Given that Rabble is required for it, it's pretty safe to say that most players will never experience that.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 09:31:25 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).

Ouch. OUCH.

Did your opponent have the presence of mind to offer sympathy?

Not sure if it's just me, but when I get unlucky in IRL games, most of the people I get unlucky against aren't even good enough to realize they've gotten lucky.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 10:19:45 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).
This sounds like one of those Dominion puzzles.  "How can I make my opponent most likely ragequit the game?"
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2017, 12:49:00 am »
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Not Dominion, but in a certain other Donald X. game, I recently drew a canyon card on eight consecutive turns. )-8
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2017, 03:27:25 am »
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Not Dominion, but in a certain other Donald X. game, I recently drew a canyon card on eight consecutive turns. )-8

That's awful. I played that game yesterday. Ironically, Canyon wasn't in my game because we were playing with Scouts (I think that's the one that removes a type from the game). I guess I transferred all the canyons to you.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2017, 03:56:11 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).

There are some unfortunate things in this thread, but this one hurts to just read lol
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2017, 12:00:12 pm »
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My all-time worst Dominion moment was back in the ol' BSW days.  I mistook my Chapel for a Cellar and Chapeled three Provinces in the late game :/
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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2017, 12:50:57 pm »
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I recently had an IRL game in which not only did I get the Golden Sombrero, but after my Turn 3, an opponent's Rabble (the only opening Rabble in the game), discarded not only my Turn 1-2 buys but (after reshuffling) my Turn 3 buy as well, forcing me to play 5 turns with my starting cards. 

I calculate the odds of this happening at less than 1:950 (chance of Golden Sombrero=(2/12)*(1/11); chance of opponent who bought Rabble playing it Turn 4=5/12; chance of Rabble's third card being my Turn 3 purchase=1/6).

Ouch. OUCH.

Did your opponent have the presence of mind to offer sympathy?

Not sure if it's just me, but when I get unlucky in IRL games, most of the people I get unlucky against aren't even good enough to realize they've gotten lucky.
This was sort of the case here.  They knew I'd gotten unlucky, but they were less experienced than me and I'd beaten them pretty hard in previous games, so they didn't really pay attention to my bad luck, instead focusing on their own decks.  Which I don't really blame them for; it was probably only fair that I have a bit of a handicap anyway.
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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2017, 01:14:38 pm »
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My all-time worst Dominion moment was back in the ol' BSW days.  I mistook my Chapel for a Cellar and Chapeled three Provinces in the late game :/

Yeah, I've occasionally done that too.
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2017, 02:29:19 pm »
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2017, 02:36:53 pm »
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Did someone seriously create an alt just to make that joke?

It is not the first time someone has made an alt just for a 1-post joke.
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2017, 07:39:19 pm »
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Did someone seriously create an alt just to make that joke?

It is not the first time someone has made an alt just for a 1-post joke.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2017, 07:42:12 pm »
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I had an IRL game yesterday with a friend with the Page line. We were both going for it somewhat (me moreso than him), I got to my Warrior first. Played a Page, then my Warrior, and trashed both his Warrior and Treasure Hunter with it. The game turned pretty heavily in my favor at that point. It wasn't bad luck for me, but for him it was pretty deflating. IIRC he hadn't picked up a third Page at that point, so it was his entire traveller line dead.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2017, 12:01:31 pm »
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I had "wait for expansions" checked, and just by chance the game was an all-base game. What are the chances of that??
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2017, 12:28:25 pm »
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I had "wait for expansions" checked, and just by chance the game was an all-base game. What are the chances of that??

If you were playing against someone who just owned one small expansion on MF and didn't upgrade to Gold or Silver on ShiT, about 0.6%. If they had one big expansion, 0.03%.
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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2017, 12:33:15 pm »
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I had "wait for expansions" checked, and just by chance the game was an all-base game. What are the chances of that??

If you were playing against someone who just owned one small expansion on MF and didn't upgrade to Gold or Silver on ShiT, about 0.6%.

I assume that doesn't include the odds of getting paired with such a person in the first place, though? Because we couldn't calculate that without knowing exactly how many people are in that situation, vs total users, including the time of day that he was playing, etc.
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2017, 12:34:15 pm »
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I assume that doesn't include the odds of getting paired with such a person in the first place, though?

Yeah, just the odds of getting an all-base kingdom out of base set + small expansion.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2017, 02:01:11 pm »
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I think that checking "wait for expansions" guarantees playing against someone with at least half the expansions.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2017, 05:10:41 am »
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I don't know what you're talking about.

Come on!
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2017, 04:56:54 pm »
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I don't know what you're talking about.

Come on!

You post as you played: so predictable...
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2017, 10:44:40 pm »
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Bad luck for my opponent. I got 3 Saunas, 3 Avantos and Orchard was on the board.  I felt pretty dirty that game.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2017, 08:11:31 pm »
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Each of us only had one Sea Hag.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2017, 08:24:41 pm »
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Each of us only had one Sea Hag.

You accidentally played a multiplayer game? That's pretty bad luck indeed.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2017, 08:04:08 am »
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Each of us only had one Sea Hag.

Ah yes, the Sea Hag Knock-out.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2017, 08:12:40 am »
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One of the first ever Dominion memes: "Yo dawg, I hope you like curses, 'cause my opening Sea Hag just Sea Hagged your Sea Hag".
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« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2017, 02:35:38 pm »
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Another RL example: I bought a Harbinger. I played the Harbinger 4 times. Every time I did, it was with an empty discard pile.

Had I just bought a silver there instead, I would have won instead of losing by a point.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2017, 03:36:03 pm »
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Yesterday:

Colony board with Alchemist, Transmogrify, Shanty Town and Haggler. I get 2/5, which I'm not so happy about.

I buy Haggler, opponent buys Potion/Shanty.

After the shuffle, my Haggler is at the bottom. I buy Potion/Shanty. They buy Alchemist/Transmog.

Turn 5, I draw Shanty with my Haggler, and only 1 Copper. I don't want to buy another Shanty or a Silver, because then I have to gain a $2. So I buy nothing!

Turn 6 I buy Transmog.

Turn 7 I draw Potion and Transmog with 2 Coppers. Time to give up.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2017, 12:38:21 pm »
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One of the first ever Dominion memes: "Yo dawg, I hope you like curses, 'cause my opening Sea Hag just Sea Hagged your Sea Hag".

That meme is honestly so cringe in my opinion...

I recently had a game where Loan skipped over all my good cards. The other 5 cards in my deck were Silver, copper x 3, and estate.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2017, 11:39:44 pm »
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K plays an Overlord.
K plays a Soothsayer.
K gains a Gold.
C gains a Curse.
C shuffles their deck.
C draws a Curse.

This was the first curse I got in the game. The only trasher was Sentry.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2017, 11:41:08 pm »
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Your opponent messed up and should have played Overlord as Sentry.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2017, 12:43:04 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.



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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2017, 01:13:07 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.

This would elicit at least one "ffs" from me in the chat window, and then probably a resignation, because that would be miserable to play against.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2017, 02:56:59 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.

At least they didn't pass you the Amb with Masq, then Amb all your stuff back to them with Possession .. or did they?
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2017, 03:02:34 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.

So they Masqed you the Ambassador and you had no way to trash it?

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2017, 04:29:09 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.

So they Masqed you the Ambassador and you had no way to trash it?

Effectively, yes. We had Tr/Alchemist stacks, so the turn he hit Possession I was Masqed the Amb. He then returned my trashing (Altar) which I could not gain back and then play before he would return it.

Possession desperately needs to be banned from the Bm deck.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2017, 06:30:46 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.

So they Masqed you the Ambassador and you had no way to trash it?

Effectively, yes. We had Tr/Alchemist stacks, so the turn he hit Possession I was Masqed the Amb. He then returned my trashing (Altar) which I could not gain back and then play before he would return it.

Possession desperately needs to be banned from the Bm deck.

It's already super rare on shuffle it cause there needs to be a potion card in the supply for it.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2017, 08:42:32 pm »
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I just played a game with Magpie and Tower. We split the Magpies 5-5, but then my opponent's Warriors trashed FOUR of mine. I trashed exactly zero of his. I still managed to get a tie somehow.
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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2017, 08:49:30 pm »
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then my opponent's Warriors trashed FOUR of mine.

I assume there was cost reduction if his Warriors were able to trash Mines.

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Re: The bad luck thread
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2017, 09:17:47 pm »
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All of the following were pulled from the Bm deck by my opponent:
Masq
Amb
Possession

Regardless of green lead, there is precisely nothing that can be done why you get Masqed and then Possessed.
Their happening to have $6+P to spend at the appropriate moment seems even more ridiculously unlucky than Possession merely turning up in the Black Market deck. Boggle.
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