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Japanese Tournament raised a few issues
majiponi:
HobbyJapan Game Festival was held on 15 and 16 July 2017. Many players joined Japanese Dominion Tournament in it. Mr. Moolong - you know as yudai214 - won in it. He is going to attend World Championship 2017.
This competition raised some issues.
1. One player was disqualified due to a cheat on shuffling swapping his hand for his deck.
2. Four players drew intentionally. (This was a Swiss-system tournament. They all have the same championship points.)
1. is a kind of problem in manners, skills, and rules. This tournament had few rules dealing with a improper shuffling. It was up to each player's skills and manners.
2. is a problem in a rule. Judges didn't disqualify those four players, but added another rule not to propose deals in games. Is intentional draw allowed in Dominion (up to each championship), or disallowed?
EDIT: The sponsor explained those two matters. It was not due to a cheating shuffling but a swapping hand why the player was disqualified.
https://hobbyjapan.co.jp/hobbyjapan_game_festival/ruling_hamefestival2017.html
ConMan:
It sounds like it's a problem in the tournament design. You assume that the players will play to win the game in front of them, and not collude with the other players to beat the system, and I did a quick search and it seems like this is not unheard of in, for example, Magic tournaments (such that they actually have a rule prohibiting collusion with other players to improve your joint chances). Unfortunately, I don't know if there's a great way to fix it.
drsteelhammer:
Do not play Swiss system when you're not playing 2-player games. I assumed that it is a requirement.
DG:
This BGG thread seems to be on topic https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/1854/swiss-style-multiplayer-games.
Awaclus:
Intentional draws are prohibited in Magic now?
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