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« on: May 23, 2017, 11:43:26 pm »
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kingdom:

Apothecary
Ambassador
Workshop
Village
Oasis
Island
Spice Merchant
Band of Misfits
Margrave
Grand Market

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O starts with 7 Coppers, a Hovel, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws 4 Coppers and a Hovel.
B starts with 7 Coppers, a Hovel, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws 3 Coppers, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 1 - Omastar68
O plays 4 Coppers.
O buys an Island.
O trashes a Hovel.
O gains an Island.
O draws 3 Coppers, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 1 - BarnyardOtter
B plays 3 Coppers.
B buys and gains a Workshop.
B draws 4 Coppers and a Hovel.

Turn 2 - Omastar68
O plays 3 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Workshop.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws 3 Coppers, an Island and a Necropolis.

Turn 2 - BarnyardOtter
B plays 4 Coppers.
B buys and gains a Spice Merchant.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Copper, a Workshop, a Spice Merchant, a Hovel and a Necropolis.

Turn 3 - Omastar68
O plays an Island.
O puts an Island and a Necropolis on their Island mat.
O plays 3 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Workshop.
O draws 3 Coppers, a Workshop and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 3 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Spice Merchant.
B trashes a Copper.
B draws 2 Coppers.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains an Island.
B plays 2 Coppers.
B draws 4 Coppers and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 4 - Omastar68
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Potion.
O plays 3 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Village.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws 4 Coppers and a Workshop.

Turn 4 - BarnyardOtter
B plays 4 Coppers.
B buys and gains an Island.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws 2 Coppers, a Workshop, a Spice Merchant and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 5 - Omastar68
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Island.
O plays 4 Coppers.
O buys and gains an Oasis.
O draws a Copper, a Village, a Workshop, a Potion and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 5 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Spice Merchant.
B trashes a Copper.
B draws a Copper and an Island.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains an Island.
B plays 2 Coppers.
B draws 2 Coppers, an Island, a Hovel and a Necropolis.

Turn 6 - Omastar68
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Oasis.
O plays a Potion and 2 Coppers.
O buys and gains an Apothecary.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws 4 Coppers and an Oasis.

Turn 6 - BarnyardOtter
B plays an Island.
B puts an Island and a Hovel on their Island mat.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws 2 Coppers, a Workshop, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 7 - Omastar68
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Apothecary.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Workshop.
O reveals a Copper, a Village, an Island and an Oasis.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks a Village, an Island and an Oasis.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Village.
O plays 4 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Margrave.
O draws a Village, an Island, a Potion, an Oasis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 7 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Workshop.
B gains an Oasis.
B plays 2 Coppers.
B draws 3 Coppers and 2 Islands.

Turn 8 - Omastar68
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Copper.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Island.
O puts an Island and an Overgrown Estate on their Island mat.
O plays a Potion and a Copper.
O buys and gains an Apothecary.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws 2 Coppers, a Village and 2 Workshops.

Turn 8 - BarnyardOtter
B plays an Island.
B puts a Copper and an Island on their Island mat.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws 3 Coppers, a Spice Merchant and a Necropolis.

Turn 9 - Omastar68
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Village.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Oasis.
O plays 3 Coppers.
O buys and gains an Oasis.
O draws 2 Coppers, an Apothecary, an Oasis and a Margrave.

Turn 9 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Spice Merchant.
B trashes a Copper.
B plays 2 Coppers.
B buys and gains a Village.
B draws a Copper, a Workshop, an Island, an Oasis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 10 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Village.
O reveals a Copper, an Apothecary, a Potion and an Oasis.
O puts a Copper and a Potion into their hand.
O topdecks an Apothecary and an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Apothecary.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Margrave.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws a Copper, a Village and a Workshop.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Village.
B discards a Copper, a Workshop and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper.
O reveals 2 Coppers, a Workshop and an Oasis.
O puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks a Workshop and an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Workshop.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Oasis.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Village.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Copper.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Island.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Island.
O plays a Potion and 4 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Gold and an Apothecary.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws a Village, a Workshop, an Island, a Potion and a Margrave.

Turn 10 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Copper.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Copper.
B discards a Copper.
B plays an Island.
B puts a Copper and an Island on their Island mat.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws 2 Coppers, a Village, a Spice Merchant and a Necropolis.

Turn 11 - Omastar68
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Copper and 2 Oases.
B draws an Overgrown Estate.
B discards a Copper, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Village.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Island.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Village.
O plays a Potion and a Copper.
O buys and gains a Copper and an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper, a Village, 2 Apothecaries and an Oasis.

Turn 11 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Workshop.
B plays a Spice Merchant.
B trashes a Copper.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws an Oasis and a Necropolis.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws an Overgrown Estate.
B discards an Overgrown Estate.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains a Village.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Copper, 2 Villages, a Spice Merchant and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 12 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Island.
O reveals a Copper, a Gold, an Apothecary and an Oasis.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks a Gold, an Apothecary and an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Gold.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Apothecary.
O shuffles their deck.
O reveals 2 Coppers, a Potion and a Margrave.
O puts 2 Coppers and a Potion into their hand.
O topdecks a Margrave.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Margrave.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Oasis.
O reveals 3 Coppers and an Island.
O puts 3 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks an Island.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Island.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Copper, an Island and an Oasis.
B draws a Necropolis.
B discards a Village, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards an Island.
O plays an Island.
O puts 2 Islands on their Island mat.
O plays a Potion, a Gold and 5 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Gold and an Apothecary.
O draws 3 Villages, a Workshop and an Apothecary.

Turn 12 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Workshop.
B plays a Spice Merchant.
B trashes a Copper.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws an Oasis and an Overgrown Estate.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Village.
B discards an Overgrown Estate.
B plays a Village.
B draws a Necropolis.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains a Silver.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Silver, a Village, a Workshop, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 13 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper.
O shuffles their deck.
O reveals 3 Coppers and an Oasis.
O puts 3 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Apothecary.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Potion.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper.
O reveals a Copper, a Gold, an Island and an Oasis.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks a Gold, an Island and an Oasis.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Oasis.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Island.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Oasis.
O plays an Island.
O puts a Copper and an Island on their Island mat.
O plays a Potion and 3 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Margrave.
O draws a Copper, 2 Golds, an Apothecary and an Oasis.

Turn 13 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws an Oasis.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Spice Merchant.
B discards an Overgrown Estate.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains a Silver.
B plays a Silver.
B buys and gains a Village.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Silver, 2 Villages, an Oasis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 14 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Village.
O reveals a Copper, an Apothecary, an Oasis and a Margrave.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks an Apothecary, an Oasis and a Margrave.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Margrave.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws 2 Apothecaries and an Oasis.
B draws a Spice Merchant.
B discards a Village, a Spice Merchant and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Workshop.
O shuffles their deck.
O reveals a Copper, a Village, an Oasis and a Margrave.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks a Village, an Oasis and a Margrave.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Margrave.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Village.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Oasis.
O reveals a Copper, a Village, an Apothecary and a Potion.
O puts a Copper and a Potion into their hand.
O topdecks a Village and an Apothecary.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Copper, a Village and an Apothecary.
B draws a Necropolis.
B discards a Necropolis.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper.
O reveals a Village, a Workshop, an Apothecary and an Oasis.
O topdecks a Village, a Workshop, an Apothecary and an Oasis.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Village.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Apothecary.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Oasis.
O shuffles their deck.
O reveals 3 Coppers and a Workshop.
O puts 3 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks a Workshop.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards a Workshop.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Silver.
O plays an Oasis.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws a Silver.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Spice Merchant.
O plays a Potion, 2 Golds, 5 Coppers and a Silver.
O buys and gains 2 Provinces and an Apothecary.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws a Copper, a Gold, a Workshop, an Oasis and a Margrave.

Turn 14 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Village.
B plays a Village.
B draws a Workshop.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Silver.
B discards a Workshop.
B plays 2 Silvers.
B buys and gains a Margrave.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Village, a Workshop, an Oasis, a Spice Merchant and a Necropolis.

Turn 15 - Omastar68
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Potion.
O discards a Workshop.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Gold, an Apothecary and a Margrave.
B draws an Overgrown Estate.
B discards a Spice Merchant, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays a Potion, 2 Golds and a Copper.
O buys and gains a Copper and a Province.
O draws a Copper, 2 Villages, a Workshop and an Oasis.

Turn 15 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Village.
B plays a Village.
B draws a Silver.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Silver.
B discards a Workshop.
B plays 2 Silvers.
B buys and gains a Margrave.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Silver, 2 Villages, a Margrave and a Spice Merchant.

Turn 16 - Omastar68
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Copper.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Province.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Spice Merchant.
O plays 2 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Village.
O draws a Copper, 2 Apothecaries, an Oasis and a Spice Merchant.

Turn 16 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws an Overgrown Estate.
B plays a Village.
B draws an Oasis.
B plays an Oasis.
B draws a Workshop.
B discards an Overgrown Estate.
B plays a Margrave.
B draws a Silver, a Margrave and a Necropolis.
O draws an Apothecary.
O discards a Copper, an Apothecary and an Oasis.
B plays a Margrave.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Village and an Overgrown Estate.
O draws a Province.
O discards a Province.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains a Silver.
B plays 2 Silvers.
B buys and gains a Silver.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Silver, 2 Villages, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 17 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Oasis.
O reveals a Copper, 2 Villages and an Apothecary.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks 2 Villages and an Apothecary.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Village.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Village.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Apothecary.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Oasis.
O shuffles their deck.
O reveals a Copper, a Silver, a Gold and an Apothecary.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks a Silver, a Gold and an Apothecary.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws an Apothecary.
O discards a Copper.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Silver.
O reveals 2 Coppers, a Gold and an Apothecary.
O puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks a Gold and an Apothecary.
O plays a Spice Merchant.
O trashes a Silver.
O draws a Gold and an Apothecary.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Province.
O reveals 3 Coppers and a Village.
O puts 3 Coppers into their hand.
O topdecks a Village.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Village.
O reveals a Village, 2 Oases and a Margrave.
O topdecks a Village, 2 Oases and a Margrave.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Margrave.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Village and 2 Oases.
B draws a Margrave.
B discards a Village, a Necropolis and an Overgrown Estate.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Copper.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards a Province.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Margrave.
O discards a Copper.
O plays a Margrave.
O draws a Copper, a Province and a Village.
B draws a Margrave.
B discards a Margrave.
O plays a Village.
O draws an Oasis.
O plays an Oasis.
O draws a Workshop.
O discards a Province.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Spice Merchant.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains a Village.
O plays a Gold and 6 Coppers.
O buys and gains a Province, a Village and an Oasis.
O draws a Gold, a Province, an Apothecary, a Potion and a Spice Merchant.

Turn 17 - BarnyardOtter
B plays a Village.
B draws a Silver.
B plays a Margrave.
B draws 2 Silvers and a Workshop.
O shuffles their deck.
O draws a Copper.
O discards a Copper, a Province and a Potion.
B plays a Workshop.
B gains a Silver.
B plays 4 Silvers.
B buys and gains a Province.
B shuffles their deck.
B draws a Silver, a Village, an Oasis, a Spice Merchant and an Overgrown Estate.

Turn 18 - Omastar68
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Copper.
O reveals a Copper, 2 Apothecaries and a Spice Merchant.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks 2 Apothecaries and a Spice Merchant.
O plays a Spice Merchant.
O trashes a Copper.
O draws an Apothecary and a Spice Merchant.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Apothecary.
O reveals a Copper, 2 Villages and a Workshop.
O puts a Copper into their hand.
O topdecks 2 Villages and a Workshop.
O plays a Spice Merchant.
O trashes a Copper.
O draws 2 Villages.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Workshop.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Province.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws an Apothecary.
O reveals a Gold, a Province, a Village and a Spice Merchant.
O topdecks a Gold, a Province, a Village and a Spice Merchant.
O plays an Apothecary.
O draws a Village.
O reveals a Gold, a Province, an Apothecary and a Spice Merchant.
O topdecks a Gold, a Province, an Apothecary and a Spice Merchant.
O plays a Village.
O draws a Spice Merchant.
O plays a Spice Merchant.
O trashes a Copper.
O draws a Gold and a Province.
O plays a Workshop.
O gains an Oasis.
O plays 2 Golds.
O buys and gains a Grand Market.
O draws 2 Villages, an Apothecary, an Oasis and a Margrave.

Turn 18 - BarnyardOtter
    I liked this board, Village, +buy, and quite a few options. Shelters were funny here since there wasn't a dark card at all lol.

    Few things:

    Island start to trash Hovel? it seemed good cuz Hovel sucks. Island didn't have a great target cuz shelters, but it did essentially trash a pretty useless Necropolis. Still, is it better than Potion or Spice Merchant to start?

    Which brings me to my next point, Moneylender to trash Coppers or Apothecary to utilize them? I did get a bunch of Moneylenders later since I'd always get lots of Coppers to trash for cards, but early on I was definitely going for Apothecaries.

    Is Ambassador useless here? I think so, since Estates can turn into Island fodder and you have to waste a buy on them. Coppers can be used or trashed effectively.
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Re: Great Board
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 12:45:08 am »
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4C-Hovel just begs for an Island buy.  Then you can get rid of Necro/OGE even without other good trashing.

You can probably skip Amb here, but I think if you do and your opponent does not, you need a couple Moneylenders... and you also need to be careful when your opponent buys a Curses and sends you all 10.  But if you have a Village/Margrave/GM engine going, you can pick one up later if needed with a spare 3.

I'm not convinced on Apothecary here.  You want to rid yourself of those Coppers, and later on the re-ordering just isn't likely to be very good.
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Re: Great Board
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 01:10:37 am »
+1

Band of Misfits is from Dark Ages. Every expansion needs one card to keep Jeebus with steady business.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 07:15:04 am »
+3

I think you do want one Amb here - for the Coppers, just to keep junk moving around. You can eventually get a Curse and make life a little shitty for your opponent too, so it'll stay useful for awhile.

The Dream opening really is Island trashing Hovel and Amb - then you can hopefully Island OGE and Amb out your Copper, getting reasonably thin pretty fast. You'll need 2-3 Silver this way, but that's not the end of the world.

Apothecary isn't fantastic here - you would rather just not have those Coppers, and you have way better things to do with your time. Particularly since GM is a key card so you can't even always use your Copper for economy. The cost of getting Apothecaries is just too high.

Don't lose the Villge split, but don't be an idiot - maybe Workshop is okay for that, but I would rather get Margraves and GMs quickly and then piledrive Villages. Maybe BoM?
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Re: Great Board
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 08:46:57 am »
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Was "Moneylender" supposed to be "Spice Merchant"? I didn't see any Moneylenders anywhere in the log, but I did see plenty of Spice Merchants...
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2017, 01:54:10 pm »
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Band of Misfits is from Dark Ages. Every expansion needs one card to keep Jeebus with steady business.

i always say dum things lol. Was thinking more like dark in color, but BoM fits that description too xd. Still, shelters are kinda outta place here.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2017, 01:56:59 pm »
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Was "Moneylender" supposed to be "Spice Merchant"? I didn't see any Moneylenders anywhere in the log, but I did see plenty of Spice Merchants...

this was earlier so i forgot, but I'm pretty sure it was Moneylender, is the log being weird? Moneylender isn't neccesarily terminal so that could change stuff...
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 07:20:57 am »
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Was "Moneylender" supposed to be "Spice Merchant"? I didn't see any Moneylenders anywhere in the log, but I did see plenty of Spice Merchants...

this was earlier so i forgot, but I'm pretty sure it was Moneylender, is the log being weird? Moneylender isn't neccesarily terminal so that could change stuff...

You are confusing them again it seems haha.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 11:17:26 am »
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Was "Moneylender" supposed to be "Spice Merchant"? I didn't see any Moneylenders anywhere in the log, but I did see plenty of Spice Merchants...

this was earlier so i forgot, but I'm pretty sure it was Moneylender, is the log being weird? Moneylender isn't neccesarily terminal so that could change stuff...

The log seems to be consistent with the effect of Spice Merchant, so it's not just the name being changed. I guess it must've actually been Spice Merchant and I somehow messed that up even though I wrote this immediately after the game:( I'll edit it.

You are confusing them again it seems haha.
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