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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #250 on: May 31, 2017, 11:01:32 pm »

mcmc vote count

O (3): Awaclus, Robz888, gkrieg
robz (2): twistedarcher, O
gkrieg (1): roadrunner
Not voting (1): mcmcsalot

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. D2 ends Wednesday, June 7 at 6am FT.

Yesterday's wagon
Vote Count 1.final

gkrieg13 (2): Awaclus, Haddock
Haddock (5): Roadrunner7671, mcmcsalot, Robz888, gkrieg13, O
Robz888 (1): Twistedarcher
Not voting (0):

With 8 alive it took 5 to lynch.

Haddock was lynched.

D2 starts now and ends Wednesday, June 7 at 6am FT.


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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #251 on: May 31, 2017, 11:12:44 pm »

My lynch order would be TA > roadrunner > O/Robz > awaclus > gkrieg

why would scum TA or scum RR not lynch me unless i was also scum
Because we're on page ten and there's no need to and this isn't mylo. If one of them is scum and so is alhaddock lynching hammering you and having to deal with the fallout is risky. TA was already voting for roadrunner, I guess I agree it's unlikely rr is scum and you are town. But that's why I put ta ahead of roadrunner.

I think ta is our best chance of ending the game, I think after that it's more likely awaclus as a haddock partner or a robz partner and then your lynch? But I would have to see how wagons go

I'll vote TA or roadrunner if the realistic options are myself being lynched or TA being lynched but obviously I'm not very enthusiastic about the prospect.

I think you have to be very confident that Haddock was scum to have your analysis make sense IMO. I hammered him and stand by that but even I think it's like at best 40% chance he was scum. If you're looking at a 2-scum team still remaining I think hammering me makes sense and your analysis falls a bit flat.

Either way I do think you're essentially in a kingmaker situation. I don't see Robz or Awaclus switching their votes off of me, and I barely see Gkrieg doing so. So you either can choose to lynch me or find a lynch that <me, you, TA, RoadRunner, 30% Gkrieg> would be able to vote for. Of those I think your best options are Robz (me, you, TA, RR), RR (You, TA, Gkrieg,...  Potentially robz?, potentially me if you threaten to hammer me instead but i'll keep arguing it's a mistake). TA (I'm not seeing how you get 4 here. You and who else? I'm in the same position as I am with RR and I don't think RR will vote for TA like TA will vote for RR.

TLDR: I don't see you successfully lynching anyone other than me, Robz, or potentially RoadRunner but that sames questionable

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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #252 on: May 31, 2017, 11:28:39 pm »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #253 on: May 31, 2017, 11:33:51 pm »

MCMC is which is all thats really relevant
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #254 on: June 01, 2017, 01:21:00 am »

Vote Count 2.3

O (3): Awaclus, Robz888, gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (1): Roadrunner7671
Robz888 (2): Twistedarcher, O
Twistedarcher (1): mcmcsalot
Not voting (0):

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. D2 ends Wednesday, June 7 at 6am FT.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #255 on: June 01, 2017, 01:48:26 am »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?

This is fishing and scummy
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #256 on: June 01, 2017, 01:50:05 am »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?

This is fishing and scummy

what is there to fish in your mind?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #257 on: June 01, 2017, 01:52:10 am »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?

This is fishing and scummy

what is there to fish in your mind?

This goes along with the ask questions and let townies fill in the case.

Fishing for who to figure out who to push.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #258 on: June 01, 2017, 01:54:32 am »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?

This is fishing and scummy

what is there to fish in your mind?

This goes along with the ask questions and let townies fill in the case.

Fishing for who to figure out who to push.

I guess that's fishing by your definition but I really really fail to see it as scummy. These kind of prods seem super standard.

Feels more OMGUS than anything else.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #259 on: June 01, 2017, 08:27:52 am »

Who here is towny on Gkrieg?

This is fishing and scummy
I thought this at first but in this game I think it's actually more important for town to know what scums reads are as opposed to scum wanting to know towns reads.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #260 on: June 01, 2017, 08:29:43 am »

@O I get what you are saying but I do think haddock was scum. Or at least that's the current thought process I am working with. Robz not feeling similarly and voting for you worries me.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #261 on: June 01, 2017, 08:46:10 am »

well your views do make a lot of sense under that assumption, just a bold one to make.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #262 on: June 01, 2017, 09:54:10 am »

well your views do make a lot of sense under that assumption, just a bold one to make.
What makes you think that? What changed that made you think he's town now as opposed to day 1?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #263 on: June 01, 2017, 09:58:19 am »

well your views do make a lot of sense under that assumption, just a bold one to make.
What makes you think that? What changed that made you think he's town now as opposed to day 1?

1. I thought he was the best shot at being scum, so I hammered, but that was like, a 45-50% chance instead of the 2/7 I have from random lynch. I never put massive amounts of faith into D1 reads.

2. The quick and stable wagon on me that seems absolutely locked onto only me has somewhat expectedly made me reevaluate how many scum I think are left.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #264 on: June 01, 2017, 09:59:48 am »

How many scum do you think are left?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #265 on: June 01, 2017, 10:04:08 am »

who's being asked
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #266 on: June 01, 2017, 10:10:24 am »

who's being asked

Ye, the round one
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #267 on: June 01, 2017, 10:16:44 am »

40% 1 60% 2 ?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #268 on: June 01, 2017, 05:07:10 pm »

I really do think Haddock was town, but also I'm off wagon so I have more reason to think that than the rest of you would.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #269 on: June 01, 2017, 05:07:50 pm »

Mcmc is townier, Robz still scummy. Robz/Awaclus are my two favorite lynches. But honestly none of you have given me a reason to believe you're towny, and I'm null/scummy on you all, and it's just a matter of degrees.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #270 on: June 01, 2017, 10:49:57 pm »

Sorry, having car troubles so that is taking up all my time.  Will post later, still want an O lynch
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #271 on: June 01, 2017, 10:51:57 pm »

What's even going on at this point. I don't understand why we're all happy to give mcmc all that power. At this point I'll lynch anyone but O and Awaclus, but I'd prefer gkrieg.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #272 on: June 01, 2017, 11:30:08 pm »

What's even going on at this point. I don't understand why we're all happy to give mcmc all that power. At this point I'll lynch anyone but O and Awaclus, but I'd prefer gkrieg.

Well quite simply MCMC has that power because three people are voting for me and won't change their opinions. So either MCMC will lynch me or he could pmuch dictate who else he wants to lynch and I'll go along with it.

I don't think MCMC is the most townie person here but from my perspective I think we've come close to default losing if MCMC is scum and Haddock wasn't. I just don't see the turnaround if MCMC + 1 other is scum, so the only chance of winning is trusting that MCMC is town.

Well tbh even if we weren't close to default losing I'd still follow any of MCMC's plans instead of getting lynched myself.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #273 on: June 02, 2017, 01:31:15 am »

What's even going on at this point. I don't understand why we're all happy to give mcmc all that power. At this point I'll lynch anyone but O and Awaclus, but I'd prefer gkrieg.

Well quite simply MCMC has that power because three people are voting for me and won't change their opinions. So either MCMC will lynch me or he could pmuch dictate who else he wants to lynch and I'll go along with it.

I don't think MCMC is the most townie person here but from my perspective I think we've come close to default losing if MCMC is scum and Haddock wasn't. I just don't see the turnaround if MCMC + 1 other is scum, so the only chance of winning is trusting that MCMC is town.

Well tbh even if we weren't close to default losing I'd still follow any of MCMC's plans instead of getting lynched myself.

How do you know Haddock wasn't scum?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #274 on: June 02, 2017, 02:10:52 am »

if MCMC is scum and Haddock wasn't
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