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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #200 on: May 29, 2017, 04:28:17 pm »



3. Awaclus

6. O
7. Roadrunner7671

I only have two townreads right now, and they're only towny because they haven't done anything scummy.

So you don't think the hammer was at all scummy?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #201 on: May 29, 2017, 04:38:09 pm »

I could go for a RR lynch for sure.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #202 on: May 29, 2017, 04:51:47 pm »

I wasn't trying to point out some magical contradiction in your statements. It's just that what you did was an obvious bait and switch by stating a falsehood ("Gkrieg didn't want him lynched" ) and then pretending I brought up the allegedly irrelevant concept when I responded to it ("It doesn't matter what Gkrieg was actually thinking at the time"). Whether or not the points are true are secondary to the manipulation you're attempting with them.

You were the one who brought up the concept. I was the one responding to your bringing it up.

If Gkrieg didn't want Haddock lynched

This is the first post in which anyone starts to speculate whether or not gkrieg would have wanted the lynch to happen anyway.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #203 on: May 30, 2017, 04:31:40 am »

Vote Count 2.2

O (2): Awaclus, Robz888
Roadrunner7671 (2): gkrieg13, Twistedarcher
Not voting (3): Roadrunner7671, mcmcsalot, O

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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #204 on: May 30, 2017, 08:58:32 am »

Ta why are you voting rr again?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #205 on: May 30, 2017, 09:51:25 am »

Ta why are you voting rr again?
Because he can.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #206 on: May 30, 2017, 09:51:53 am »



3. Awaclus

6. O
7. Roadrunner7671

I only have two townreads right now, and they're only towny because they haven't done anything scummy.

So you don't think the hammer was at all scummy?
I think it was too scummy to be scum. I really don't see scum pulling something like that.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #207 on: May 30, 2017, 10:26:27 am »

I think it was too scummy to be scum. I really don't see scum pulling something like that.

You're contradicting yourself here.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #208 on: May 30, 2017, 11:40:31 am »

Robz why are you voting o?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #209 on: May 30, 2017, 11:53:09 am »

Robz why are you voting o?

Why shouldn't he be voting O?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #210 on: May 30, 2017, 12:47:16 pm »

Robz why are you voting o?

For hammering Haddock.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #211 on: May 30, 2017, 01:45:44 pm »

Robz why are you voting o?

For hammering Haddock.
So you didn't want haddock lynched? Or did you want haddock lynched and you think o's quickhammer indicated haddock was most likely town and O really wanted to get that lynch through?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #212 on: May 30, 2017, 01:55:20 pm »

Robz why are you voting o?

For hammering Haddock.
So you didn't want haddock lynched? Or did you want haddock lynched and you think o's quickhammer indicated haddock was most likely town and O really wanted to get that lynch through?

The latter. I think O's quickhammer is scummy.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #213 on: May 30, 2017, 02:03:13 pm »

I agree that the quickhammer was scummy, and thinking about it more, I think we need to be better about punishing scummy behavior so that the whole "too scummy to be scum" can't exist.

The hammer was very scummy because it didnt' give us a chance to see what Haddock would say after he got lynched.  The reasoning for the hammer was super scummy too.  O said that he didn't want the game to slow down, but Haddock would've found time at some point to post, so it is really a bad excuse.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #214 on: May 30, 2017, 02:29:23 pm »

Post count:

Gkrieg: 36
Awaclus: 25
Mcmcsalot: 22
Twisted archer: 18
Roadrunner: 17
Robz: 16
O: 16
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #215 on: May 30, 2017, 02:30:23 pm »

Also gkrieg put O to l-1 just so everyone is clear. Really people it takes two seconds to check the votes and post at l-2 and l-1...
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #216 on: May 30, 2017, 02:31:38 pm »

Also gkrieg put O to l-1 just so everyone is clear. Really people it takes two seconds to check the votes and post at l-2 and l-1...

Sorry, just came from a big game.  Didn't realize it was only 4 to lynch.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #217 on: May 30, 2017, 02:40:05 pm »

or someone would unvote and we'd get the joy of WIFOMing whether it was scum derailing a wagon or if scum wouldn't be ballsy enough to do that and it's just a concerned townie.

Which I guess? is still more reads to go off than we currently have, outside of the read that "O hammered = scum" that Robz is totally not scummily sheeping.

PPE: We've certainly already had more conversation post-hammer than we would have if I didn't hammer, so I disagree personally.

With or without the hammer though we haven't had any input from... 2/7? without reading back pretty sure you/me/robz/Awa/TA are the active posters ATM, would be nice in such a small game to get the last 2.
You realize the bolded statement is in quite contradiction to a few posts previously when you say.

If Gkrieg didn't want Haddock lynched, presumably he wouldn't put him to L-1. I didn't deceive him at all.

If gkrieg did want Haddock lynched, presumably he would have been willing to hammer him. You deceived him and very much intentionally so.

Presumably people are unwilling to hammer if doing so makes them look scummy. Gkrieg did vote for him, implying that he would like him lynched, though not necessarily on my terms at my time.

Gkrieg has in fact answered this problem for us!

I definitely wanted haddock lynched

making further discussion with you about this exceedingly useless, as someone who claims to know what Gkrieg wants more than Gkrieg does is unhelpful and wrong.

You realize you were wrong about me and roadrunner being lurkers, you actually have the least posts along with robz. And you are trying to have your cake and eat it to. You point out much of the discussion you had with awaclus was "pointless" but also say your hammer was towny because it generated more content than had you not hammered.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #218 on: May 30, 2017, 02:44:27 pm »

To be fair, from that post count, it is really only fine to call me not a lurker.  Even you only have 6 more posts than the low counts, which isn't really that much.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #219 on: May 30, 2017, 02:53:33 pm »

To be fair, from that post count, it is really only fine to call me not a lurker.  Even you only have 6 more posts than the low counts, which isn't really that much.
Oh I agree, I'm not calling anyone a lurker, I'm scum reading O for calling me and rr lurkers when he has less posts
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #220 on: May 30, 2017, 03:02:51 pm »

To be fair, from that post count, it is really only fine to call me not a lurker.  Even you only have 6 more posts than the low counts, which isn't really that much.
Oh I agree, I'm not calling anyone a lurker, I'm scum reading O for calling me and rr lurkers when he has less posts

Got it.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #221 on: May 30, 2017, 04:46:33 pm »

Vote Count 2.2

O (2): Awaclus, Robz888
Roadrunner7671 (2): gkrieg13, Twistedarcher
Not voting (3): Roadrunner7671, mcmcsalot, O

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. D2 ends Wednesday, June 7 at 6am FT.

Interesting that the two wagons are on O and RR, but they're not voting for one another.

O, what do you think of RR?
RR, what do you think of O?
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #222 on: May 30, 2017, 05:49:41 pm »

I've already expressed that O is towny to me.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #223 on: May 30, 2017, 05:56:13 pm »

I have no desire to vote for RR now that he's posted.

To be fair, from that post count, it is really only fine to call me not a lurker.  Even you only have 6 more posts than the low counts, which isn't really that much.


Oh I agree, I'm not calling anyone a lurker, I'm scum reading O for calling me and rr lurkers when he has less posts

this is pathetically out of context. RR hadn't posted this game day, which is what I was referring to. It has nothing to do with post count.
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Re: M101: Less Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #224 on: May 30, 2017, 06:04:41 pm »

Roadrunner is by far my strongest town read because he has very little consequence for voting for me here -- especially given that there's no flips.


Robz is by far my strongest scum read as his argument is incredibly lazy and scum tend to look for easy arguments and tunnel them for lynches in games like this.

MCMC is my second biggest scumread as he is  pretending then my refusal to go along with with Awaclus's crap is related to generating or not generating more discussion. The discussion he generates is genuinely useless, pedantic crap.

So if yall want to sheep me after you mislynch me...

Robz > MCMC > Awaclus > Gkrieg > TA > Roadrunner scummiest to least scummy.



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