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[Robz888]

What happens in a VT/Mafia/Survivor endgame? Do Mafia/Survivor win since Mafia would win if the Survivor was dead? Or does the game continue and the Survivor choose who wins with them since something (ie the Survivor) can prevent Mafia from killing the Town?

This would probably result in a Mafia/Survivor win, since if the Survivor was not present, the Mafia would have generally satisfied its win condition.

However, there is at least one situation I can think of where Town/Survivor would win here. If the mafia member had already been poisoned by the Poisoner invention, and was going to die the next night, and the Townie was 1-shot Bulletproof, then it would be the case that the mafia could not kill the Townie at night, and the mafia was going to die. Since, in this case, the Mafia is effectively end-gamed, the Town and Survivor would win.

[Robz888]

Generally, there will be no kingmaking scenario. In a true kingmaking scenario, Serial Killer / Werewolf > Mafia > Town. The Survivor complicates matters a bit; I would resolve things by giving the Survivor the win, ignore its ability to make a kingmaking move, and resolve the other players based on what would happen without a Survivor, and award a co-winner.

I hope that's clear...

[Robz888]

And LET THE GAME BEGIN.

Thread locked. QTs going out shortly. These are just personal QTs--you will not receive your alignment until after draft order is determined.

You will receive further instructions on that front shortly. Look for another post here after I send out QTs.

[Robz888]

THREAD LOCKED EXCEPT FOR TAGS

[Robz888]

Please answer the following questions in your personal QTs. Your answers will help determine the draft order, but perhaps not in the way you think.

1) Pretend that you are town. Assuming that you are town, what is the 5-person mafia team you fear the most? List 5 of the 22 players (other than yourself).

2) Continue assuming you are town. In order to give the town the best chance at winning, which 5 town-aligned players other than yourself would you be most comfortable receiving powers? List 5 players (you may repeat players from the previous question--this question does not assume that your previous 5 were selected as mafia). Unlike question #1, order matters here: your first choice is the person you would want to have a power the most, your second choice the next most, and so on.

3) What was your favorite regular game of mafia on this forum, 1 through 99? (Don't pick 98, which is ongoing.)

[Robz888]

Update: Still waiting on four people.

[Robz888]

Thank you for your responses. Now it's time for Part 2. Please answer three more questions. THE MORE ACCURATE YOUR ANSWERS, THE BETTER YOUR POSITION IN THE DRAFT.

1) Guess the most formidable mafia team. Which five players received the most votes in response to question 1 in the previous round? (you may include yourself)

2) List the top 10 players (you may include yourself) who you believe received the most support for powers in question 2 of the previous round. For this question, order matters.

3) Which mafia game was the winner of question 3—this group’s favorite game? Pick just one game, 1 through 99, excluding 98.

Your answers are due within the next 24 hours!

[Robz888]

We are still waiting on 8 people, including some people who already submitted but did not realize that Part 2 requires TEN RANKED NAMES for Question 2, not just five.

[Robz888]

The draft ordering process is now finished. Next, I will post your order number, and your alignment, in your personal QT. The mafia will also receive their factional QT.

Please indicate in your QT (personal or factional) which Power Role you plan to bid on. Submit orders like this:

Bid: 2-Shot Vigilante (Slot 1)

Or, if you are pursuing slots 11, 12, or 13, just write:

Bid: Slot 11

The draft ordering process was as follows:

1. Correct guesses for question one were worth 5 points. Guessing the entire "most formidable" mafia team would have yielded 25 max points. (At least one player guessed all five.)

2. Correct guesses for question two were worth 3 points. 2 extra points were given for each guess that was ordered correctly. 1 point was subtracted for each wrong guess. A perfect score would have yielded 50 points if the answers were in the exact right order. Most players scored in the 15-20 range.

3. A correct answer here was worth 100 points--in practice, any player who got this right was automatically advanced to the front of the pack. (At least one player got this right.)

The highest-scoring player has position #1 in the draft, the next-highest has position #2, and so on.

After the game is finished, I can give you your score and the correct answers. For now, I will say no more about it.

SUBMIT YOUR BIDS BY MONDAY,  MAY 15TH AT 1 PM FORUM TIME.

[Robz888]

Everyone should have their alignment and draft number. Check your QTs. PM me if not. Bids are due by 1 PM Monday.

[Robz888]

I'm actually going to extend the deadline a bit, since it's the weekend.

Submit bids by 1:00 PM on Monday.

[Robz888]

Deadline was extended to 5:00 PM on account of me telling some people the wrong time, but I reserve the right to proceed a little early.

[Robz888]

Check your QTs shortly, where I will post your role, in one the following possible formats:

X, the Vanilla Townie.
X, the Mafia Goon.
X, the Y-Aligned [Power Role].
X, the Y-Aligned winner of Slot 11/12/13. Choices will follow.
X has been converted from a Serial Killer into a Survivor.
X has been converted from a Serial Killer into a Werewolf. Instructions will follow.

(It is possible that if you are Vanilla Townie you will be converted into a Mason or Werewolf shortly.)

[Robz888]

If you have been given a choice, please make it immediately. Day 1 begins tomorrow, Tuesday, at 10:00 AM Forum Time.

[Robz888]

DAY 1 START!

Robz888 and ftl
Sitting in a tree
L Y N C H I N G

First comes the votes
then comes the night
Then comes the mafia with their mafia coats

Day 1 ends on Tuesday, May 23 at 10:00 AM Forum Time.

THREAD UNLOCKED

[SpaceAnemone]

Boo! :-)

[LaLight]

first!!!

[LaLight]

Boo! :-)

oh come on

I was waiting for this moment for days and thought this will never start
vote: SA

[Cuzz]

heyo

[SpaceAnemone]

oh come on

:-P

Vote: LL

Nice to see you again too!

[LaLight]

Robz, can we have a vote count? To know who's in the game and stuff

[J Reggie]

vote: pps clearly the SK.

[J Reggie]

Also Cuzz and SpaceAnemone are definitely partners. Look at their avatars.

[Cuzz]

Also Cuzz and SpaceAnemone are definitely partners. Look at their avatars.

pretty sure I've had this avatar since M10.

[iguanaiguana]

Robz, can we have a vote count? To know who's in the game and stuff

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