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Author Topic: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)  (Read 54514 times)

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1325 on: May 06, 2017, 07:31:26 am »

I really want gkrieg and kkrieg to pull off a quickhammer together just so that we can call it blitzkrieg.
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they aren't scumteam unfortunately but it still makes sense for them to possibly quickhammer here
This looks pretty bad given the circumstances.
i mean they can't actually quickhammer right now
Right. Somehow I was under the impression that you had voted for Eevee too.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (PMs are out! N0)
« Reply #1326 on: May 06, 2017, 07:37:00 am »

Vote count 3.1

Eevee (1): 2,71828.....
Robz888 (1): Eevee

Not voting (5): Robz888, schadd, gkrieg13, kkrieg, faust

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day 3 ends Friday, 12th of May at 1 am FT.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1327 on: May 06, 2017, 07:41:44 am »

I really want gkrieg and kkrieg to pull off a quickhammer together just so that we can call it blitzkrieg.
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they aren't scumteam unfortunately but it still makes sense for them to possibly quickhammer here
This looks pretty bad given the circumstances.
i mean they can't actually quickhammer right now
Right. Somehow I was under the impression that you had voted for Eevee too.
it is believable that you were under that impression.


i was picturing them talking a while when the game approaches standstill and then quickhammering after they reach a conclusion. which i guess isn't especially quick other than the hammer part
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1328 on: May 06, 2017, 07:45:10 am »

Well, I hope we don't lynch Eevee as the wil most likely lead us into a kingmaker scenario. That is apparently e's goal, and understandbly so.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1329 on: May 06, 2017, 07:46:55 am »

is that assuming eevee town?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1330 on: May 06, 2017, 08:20:11 am »

is that assuming eevee town?
No, it's assuming Eevee Goon.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1331 on: May 06, 2017, 08:22:06 am »

Lynch Eevee -> 6 p. Traitor can successfully block JK, no matter what they do (confirmed by LaLight). Only thing that needs to happen is SK and Traitor shoot two different townies, then we're at 4 alive, 2 scum.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1332 on: May 06, 2017, 09:17:12 am »

@LaLight

Well I will wait on kkrieg to come in here and see the light, thank you very much.

to come here and join you on another attempted mislynch, you mean.  She helped mislynch Awaclus and TWM, you are hoping for one more.  I know based on my PR that you are scum.  So unless you have some good results that you are town that override my results.....it will be hard to convince me you are town.
You know based on your PR that I am scum?

Vote: e that's not possible.

Faust is voting for me
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1333 on: May 06, 2017, 09:25:48 am »

I unvoted.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1334 on: May 06, 2017, 09:53:00 am »

faust, what are you supposing e is?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1335 on: May 06, 2017, 09:55:56 am »

faust, what are you supposing e is?
The Traitor most likely.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1336 on: May 06, 2017, 09:57:04 am »

Actually I had a twist in my thoughts... we can just lynche hee, right? Then I can block Eevee again and we should be fine.

That is supposing Eevee is the Goon.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1337 on: May 06, 2017, 10:02:54 am »

Actually I had a twist in my thoughts... we can just lynche hee, right? Then I can block Eevee again and we should be fine.

That is supposing Eevee is the Goon.

What now?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1338 on: May 06, 2017, 10:04:04 am »

We can just lynch e is what I meant to say and what somehow came out that way.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1339 on: May 06, 2017, 10:07:05 am »

We can just lynch e is what I meant to say and what somehow came out that way.

We would have to believe you over E, though.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1340 on: May 06, 2017, 10:10:44 am »

Well there's always a catch.

But since the alternative lynch may very well be you, maybe you can warm up to the idea.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1341 on: May 06, 2017, 10:25:18 am »

Actually I had a twist in my thoughts... we can just lynche hee, right? Then I can block Eevee again and we should be fine.

That is supposing Eevee is the Goon.

I already explained this to you earlier. Catch up, if you were the real JK you would have thought of this already
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1342 on: May 06, 2017, 10:28:02 am »

From fausts perspective-
SK and traitor exist in {e, Robz, schadd}
If Robz is town, e is SK and schadd is traitor
If e is town, Robz is SK and schadd is traitor
If schadd is town, Robz or e could be SK/traitor.

You, as JK, want to lynch in this pool.

You don't want to (and should never have been ok with) lynching eevee
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1343 on: May 06, 2017, 10:29:32 am »

Except you aren't the JK
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1344 on: May 06, 2017, 10:30:08 am »

You don't want to (and should never have been ok with) lynching eevee
Yes. I never have been.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1345 on: May 06, 2017, 10:31:23 am »

I already explained this to you earlier. Catch up, if you were the real JK you would have thought of this already
If I was scum fakeclaiming JK, I would have thought of this already.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1346 on: May 06, 2017, 10:32:14 am »

From fausts perspective-
SK and traitor exist in {e, Robz, schadd}
If Robz is town, e is SK and schadd is traitor
If e is town, Robz is SK and schadd is traitor
If schadd is town, Robz or e could be SK/traitor.

You, as JK, want to lynch in this pool.

You don't want to (and should never have been ok with) lynching eevee
Also, "if e is town" does not make any sense from my perspective.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1347 on: May 06, 2017, 10:40:47 am »

This is a really interesting exchange between Faust and myself (starts a little earlier, ends a little later) where we are talking about who the SK is and such. Faust believes TWM is the SK, while I believe it is kkrieg (with Faust as the goon). I highlighted the other individuals Faust was considering scummy at the time, you know, like eevee, who he allegedly jailkept.....oh wait.....

Basically, faust is not scum hunting, he is SK-hunting. Which I think is scummy.

That being said, let's lynch the SK first, then we can lynch faust tomorrow
You are SK-hunting! You're scummy. ..

Did I do that right?

Like you, I have ideas for who the other mafia is. Like you, I think lynching the SK is better. Not sure where the difference is here.

Also you jump from "faust is scummy because he thinks TWM is mafia" to "faust is scummy because he thinks TWM is the SK" without blinking. You didn't stop for a minute to think how this should change your read on me.

I am not talking as much about who mcmc's partner is because I think the evidence against TWM is much stronger than against Robz or kkrieg.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1348 on: May 06, 2017, 10:44:22 am »

Well we already know that for some reason you think that if you jailkeep someone and then there's no death, this is definite proof that the player in question is scum. I don't think the setup warrants that even remotely.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1349 on: May 06, 2017, 10:45:33 am »

Which you know, you would have realized if you were the actual JK and not just fakeclaiming to frame someone.
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