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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #700 on: April 27, 2017, 03:37:54 pm »

Most lurky person is probably kkrieg and 2.7.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #701 on: April 27, 2017, 05:37:58 pm »

faust reminds me of me as scum, constantly reminding everyone of possible edge cases and really pushing TWM and at the very least hinting that everything he says is scummy. Whether that's scum indicative or not of faust I don't know, but it reads scum to me.
YES!

I like it. Vote: faust
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #702 on: April 27, 2017, 05:40:00 pm »

Most lurky person is probably kkrieg and 2.7.

Good thing lurky does not mean scummy.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #703 on: April 27, 2017, 05:47:31 pm »

faust reminds me of me as scum, constantly reminding everyone of possible edge cases and really pushing TWM and at the very least hinting that everything he says is scummy. Whether that's scum indicative or not of faust I don't know, but it reads scum to me.
I don't think reminding people of edge cases is a scum trait as much as a mathematician trait. I also don't really know where I did that.

I am probably also subject to some confirmation bias. Not everything TWM says is scummy, and in fact there are things that made me stop and wonder if he's town. But ultimately I believe he's the best lynch not because he exhibits so much scumminess, but because of the evidence i.e. mcmc's death. I have not heard another reasonable theory for why that happened.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #704 on: April 27, 2017, 05:47:45 pm »

Most lurky person is probably kkrieg and 2.7.

Good thing lurky does not mean scummy.
No, that's not a good thing.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #705 on: April 27, 2017, 06:10:02 pm »


green -> not green; nobody especially seems sk other than twm and kind of maybe gkrieg
{eevee, faust}
{e}
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{andrew, gkrieg}
{robz, twm}

Who do you think is more likely SK? Super active/overly defensive TWM or slightly lurky/jokey gkrieg?
those are not exactly the things i'm looking for in SK, nor do i think discussing that is productive

Ok but you said you were thinking either TWM or gkrieg for SK. Why?

also gkrieg isn't lurking, nor do i think that's indicative of anything

He's not lurking but he's also not at the forefront really.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #706 on: April 27, 2017, 07:24:11 pm »

twm because of the stuff we've talked about to death


gkrieg because uh he was confident mcmc was scum & was like "no i'm not SK"
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #707 on: April 27, 2017, 07:28:26 pm »

But ultimately I believe he's the best lynch not because he exhibits so much scumminess, but because of the evidence i.e. mcmc's death. I have not heard another reasonable theory for why that happened.
1. Robz is SK and feared that mcmc would accurately read him as SK better than anyone else.
2. faust is SK and killed mcmc to frame me today.

What happens when I die and flip town? Just roll with that idea, K. What is your theory then?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #708 on: April 27, 2017, 08:42:52 pm »

But ultimately I believe he's the best lynch not because he exhibits so much scumminess, but because of the evidence i.e. mcmc's death. I have not heard another reasonable theory for why that happened.
1. Robz is SK and feared that mcmc would accurately read him as SK better than anyone else.
they don't actually have a very good track record on each other. mcmc scumread robz m96, that's the only have that played where mcmc was town.


2. faust is SK and killed mcmc to frame me today.
took you long enough


What happens when I die and flip town? Just roll with that idea, K. What is your theory then?
robz is probably scum, though i don't see that as especially related to your flip. faust looked town to me since d1 & wouldn't change. andrew is probably town or something
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #709 on: April 27, 2017, 10:34:35 pm »

I think schadd might be a better lynch than faust.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #710 on: April 28, 2017, 12:04:08 am »

What Happens When I Flip Town How Does Your Theory Change Then?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #711 on: April 28, 2017, 12:07:57 am »

sorry i'm immune to ate bro \_(ツ)_/
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #712 on: April 28, 2017, 12:12:57 am »

What Happens When I Flip Town How Does Your Theory Change Then?
Nothing. You will be dead.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #713 on: April 28, 2017, 12:15:27 am »

I think schadd might be a better lynch than faust.

I disagree. I think faust is an excellent lynch. Or kkrieg
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (PMs are out! N0)
« Reply #714 on: April 28, 2017, 01:04:47 am »

Vote count 2.2
The_Wine_Merchant (3): faust, schadd, Robz888
faust (2): The_Wine_Merchant, 2,71828.....
kkrieg (1): gkrieg13
Not voting (3): Eevee, AndrewisFTTW, kkrieg

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends Wednesday, 3rd of May at 4 am FT.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #715 on: April 28, 2017, 01:16:57 am »

I'll catch up tomorrow...
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #716 on: April 28, 2017, 05:43:25 am »

1. Robz is SK and feared that mcmc would accurately read him as SK better than anyone else.
I don't think Robz would be worried about that.

2. faust is SK and killed mcmc to frame me today.
I am surprised it took you this long.

But it doesn't work. A SK has no need to frame anyone; they can just do normal scumhunting because well, they want to be lynching the other scum. If mcmc had been killed by mafia, I could see a framing angle, but not this way. (Fun fact: it is not actually impossible that the mafia killed mcmc)

What happens when I die and flip town? Just roll with that idea, K. What is your theory then?
Well it depends. I would look for interactions with you today specifically. I could kind of see kkrieg or Andrew doing the mcmc kill just because they are new and/or not very invested in the game. I find it very hard to believe that any of {Eevee, gkrieg, e, Robz} did that kill; schadd is also unlikely, but I have less data on his scum play.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #717 on: April 28, 2017, 05:45:25 am »

I think schadd might be a better lynch than faust.
How is schadd scummy?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #718 on: April 28, 2017, 09:24:28 am »

Want to lynch: TWM, kkrieg
Could lynch: 2.7, schadd, Andrew
Not inclined to lynch: gkrieg
Won't lynch (not today): Eevee, faust
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #719 on: April 28, 2017, 09:49:50 am »

1. Robz is SK and feared that mcmc would accurately read him as SK better than anyone else.
I don't think Robz would be worried about that.

2. faust is SK and killed mcmc to frame me today.
I am surprised it took you this long.

But it doesn't work. A SK has no need to frame anyone; they can just do normal scumhunting because well, they want to be lynching the other scum. If mcmc had been killed by mafia, I could see a framing angle, but not this way. (Fun fact: it is not actually impossible that the mafia killed mcmc)

What happens when I die and flip town? Just roll with that idea, K. What is your theory then?
Well it depends. I would look for interactions with you today specifically. I could kind of see kkrieg or Andrew doing the mcmc kill just because they are new and/or not very invested in the game. I find it very hard to believe that any of {Eevee, gkrieg, e, Robz} did that kill; schadd is also unlikely, but I have less data on his scum play.
I am not saying they are amazing theories, but you asked and walla! But they are better than your theory, which I know is wrong.

And on your last statement, about only newbies killing mcmc, you have said that a couple of times,but haven't explained why ( again sorry if you did already, I tried to do a search, but forum is being bad on my mobile). Why would a vet not kill mcmc?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #720 on: April 28, 2017, 10:01:50 am »

I think schadd might be a better lynch than faust.
How is schadd scummy?
I don't know. Mostly he is parroting what you are saying and then not adding anything valuable to the discussion. At least you are talking a bit with me.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #721 on: April 28, 2017, 10:12:18 am »

And on your last statement, about only newbies killing mcmc, you have said that a couple of times,but haven't explained why ( again sorry if you did already, I tried to do a search, but forum is being bad on my mobile). Why would a vet not kill mcmc?
i believe i know what this reasoning is but you might rather have faust say it


I think schadd might be a better lynch than faust.
How is schadd scummy?
I don't know. Mostly he is parroting what you are saying and then not adding anything valuable to the discussion. At least you are talking a bit with me.
I Thought I Would At Least Not Be The Prime Target Today For Pushing Mcmc
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #722 on: April 28, 2017, 10:14:47 am »

O.maybe you did say already? But I couldn't find you saying it. But I'll guess? Cause mcmc claimed VT and a SK would want to take out a PR?

I guess I can see that. But I think a vet could overrule that for other reasons. And I think it unfair (although you haven't actually said it, so sorry if I am putting words in your mouth) to think that a newbie would automatically play poorly.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #723 on: April 28, 2017, 10:15:11 am »

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #724 on: April 28, 2017, 10:15:25 am »

uhoh
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