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Author Topic: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)  (Read 20583 times)

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #425 on: April 23, 2017, 02:33:41 pm »

Vote: Robz


This is an L-2 vote on me.

I guess I'm not the worst lynch ever, if that's what's going to happen. I am a Vanilla Townie.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #426 on: April 23, 2017, 02:34:42 pm »

Hm, I'm surprised that Andrew is voting for me, given that he was also trying to rally me to think gkrieg was a hypocrite over some perceived scumslip (I think that's what that was about?)

Not rallying, just wanted to know what you thought about it. But alas, I missed e's sarcasm.

If you miss sarcasm I can always provide more, we just have to lynch Robz first because he believes all jokes (especially the sarcastic ones) come from scum

I don't really think that anymore. I find unclear joking more annoying, than anything else.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #427 on: April 23, 2017, 02:35:03 pm »

That being said, I am not sure what sarcasm you are referring to. I want trying to be sarcastic with my posts

The post where you said you try to lynch townies.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #428 on: April 23, 2017, 03:31:45 pm »

Is anyone else willing to vote Robz?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2017, 03:58:42 pm »

I don't have any strong scum reads, but I don't think Robz is.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2017, 04:19:32 pm »

Is anyone else willing to vote Robz?
Not at the moment.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #431 on: April 23, 2017, 04:23:07 pm »

Would you guys rather no lynch on D1? Because that would suck and we're running out of time.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #432 on: April 23, 2017, 04:26:30 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #433 on: April 23, 2017, 04:34:47 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?

I remember town!Robz fighting harder against his lynch before, but this is a little different. He's not at L-1 and it's D1.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #434 on: April 23, 2017, 04:36:22 pm »

Would you guys rather no lynch on D1? Because that would suck and we're running out of time.

I am a firm believer that no lynching D1 doesn't just suck, it is literally a catastrophe for town. I would have to do research to actually back myself up with data, but I would be willing to bet town winning after a D1 no lynch is rare
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #435 on: April 23, 2017, 04:39:22 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?

I remember town!Robz fighting harder against his lynch before, but this is a little different. He's not at L-1 and it's D1.

To be fair, he will be the go-to lynch if nothing changes soon.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #436 on: April 23, 2017, 04:43:02 pm »

Of the remaining people with >1 vote I would go Andrew over mcmc over Robz.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #437 on: April 23, 2017, 04:43:47 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?

I remember town!Robz fighting harder against his lynch before, but this is a little different. He's not at L-1 and it's D1.

To be fair, he will be the go-to lynch if nothing changes soon.

Faust moving his vote changes that. Speaking of which, I like
Vote: faust
Better than Robz. I have convinced myself that I believe Robz at least for today
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #438 on: April 23, 2017, 04:47:34 pm »

Of the remaining people with >1 vote I would go Andrew over mcmc over Robz.

I think I'm at mcmc over Andrew over Robz
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #439 on: April 23, 2017, 04:48:33 pm »

Awaclus, mcmc or schadd.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #440 on: April 23, 2017, 04:51:04 pm »

Someone give me a reason to not vote Awaclus, other than him saying that he doesn't anything to scumslip--as he has failed to show that anyone else has done that thus far this game.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #441 on: April 23, 2017, 04:56:11 pm »

I'd be ok with Awaclus or Andrew
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #442 on: April 23, 2017, 04:58:10 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?

I remember town!Robz fighting harder against his lynch before, but this is a little different. He's not at L-1 and it's D1.

To be fair, he will be the go-to lynch if nothing changes soon.

Faust moving his vote changes that. Speaking of which, I like
Vote: faust
Better than Robz. I have convinced myself that I believe Robz at least for today

Why faust? I don't like this at all, actually.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #443 on: April 23, 2017, 04:58:47 pm »

I would go for E if the votes were there. If not I'll stick with Andrew. Awaclus is also fine. This does not feel like scum mcmc to me.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #444 on: April 23, 2017, 05:10:28 pm »

This feels very similar to mcmc from M91. I don't like the 2.7 wagon, now or earlier.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #445 on: April 23, 2017, 05:20:15 pm »

Vote: Awaclus
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #446 on: April 23, 2017, 05:40:50 pm »

vote: Awaclus
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #447 on: April 23, 2017, 05:44:36 pm »

That's why I didn't answer before, I don't really have a better answer then I think what twm did is scummy. I mean it's not even crazy scummy, it's just the scummiest thing I have seen yet. Maybe it helps if I tell a narrative that fits.

I feel like scum!twm want to add his vote to yours when he sees you vote but doesn't want to be the one "pushing" the wagon so he just sheeps and when I ask him about his reasons he gives me this its the same reasons as Faust, go see for yourself. It's just wierd for a towny to say that especially given the fact that it wasn't obviouse what your reasons were for multiple people. Furthermore once you give your reason and gkriegs says it's reaching twm doesn't back you up, he becomes more cryptic about what his reasons are. Just feels like scum hoping you or other townies will take the lead in going for an awaclus lynch.

I think I get your reasoning here.  And I think they only apply if people think TWM is generally townie and they like to sheep him.  Like this would be a good case on faust, but not a very good case on TWM.
I Can understand that, I do think people think twm is towny though.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #448 on: April 23, 2017, 05:48:37 pm »

That's why I didn't answer before, I don't really have a better answer then I think what twm did is scummy. I mean it's not even crazy scummy, it's just the scummiest thing I have seen yet. Maybe it helps if I tell a narrative that fits.

I feel like scum!twm want to add his vote to yours when he sees you vote but doesn't want to be the one "pushing" the wagon so he just sheeps and when I ask him about his reasons he gives me this its the same reasons as Faust, go see for yourself. It's just wierd for a towny to say that especially given the fact that it wasn't obviouse what your reasons were for multiple people. Furthermore once you give your reason and gkriegs says it's reaching twm doesn't back you up, he becomes more cryptic about what his reasons are. Just feels like scum hoping you or other townies will take the lead in going for an awaclus lynch.

I think I get your reasoning here.  And I think they only apply if people think TWM is generally townie and they like to sheep him.  Like this would be a good case on faust, but not a very good case on TWM.
I Can understand that, I do think people think twm is towny though.
They do now. Previously, when this all was happening, they didn't, it was up in the air. I think I have done a decent job of making sure town people have had opportunities to accurately read me despite some somewhat unknown situations earlier. You are the exception, which is partially why I am suspicious of you.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #449 on: April 23, 2017, 06:31:50 pm »

OMGUS is not a very good way to find your reads.
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