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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #400 on: April 23, 2017, 12:42:16 am »

Sorry, busy day. Can't promise to be around at deadline but I will find time tomorrow to read and try to be useful as we near deadline
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #401 on: April 23, 2017, 04:20:26 am »

I'm sorry it's my birthday tomorrow and I'm celebrating, I'll catch up Sunday evening at the latest. So I should around pre-deadline and deadline.
Happy birthday!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #402 on: April 23, 2017, 04:23:51 am »

robz is towny
Why?
i think the pr-comment is much more likely to come from town.
Ah yes. I see where that's coming from. But when Robz posted that, he was already under suspicion. I think any-alignment!Robz is very aware of the reactions he causes with such a post, and I believe it's a bit more likely to come from scum!Robz.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #403 on: April 23, 2017, 04:38:53 am »

I've been meaning to reread e for a while, but somehow it slipped my mind. Wel, here goes:

Stuff in the beginining is setup-related. There's an early Eevee vote.

A wagon! Great. The best way to combat it will be to post a bunch, so I will do what I can.
I don't feel good about this post. Town thinks that probably, but why post it? Oversharing isn't townie, but scum often thinks it is.

So the question becomes, did scum vote for me, and does eevee have some sort of relationship with scum?

Faust voting me was a fairly standard "get the game moving" post- very alignment neutral. The following votes didn't build on it at all, mostly just sheeping, which isn't terrible, but easy for scum to do
e asks this question, but there's never a follow-up on it. If town!e thinks that, then why not investigate further?

Then we have the kkrieg vote, which I agree with to some extent.

A lot of people in this game seem to have very strange ideas about what kind of behaviour one should expect from scum.

So that's why I go after townies as lynch targets. That being said, while I know I probably won't get much movement on kkrieg, I really like my vote
I will note that it is convenient for scum to leave their vote on someone they know will not get lynched and then potentially switch late in the day with the excuse of "had to get a lynch through!" (or stay off the lynch wagon if they know it'll be a townie). Not sure if scum!e would be so direct about it.

Not a lot more. I'm conflicted; there is scummy stuff, but I feel scummy about a number of people here.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (PMs are out! N0)
« Reply #404 on: April 23, 2017, 05:17:34 am »

Vote Count 1.HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MCMCSALOT!

Robz888 (3): schadd, faust, AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (2): Awaclus, Robz888
Awaclus (1): kkrieg
The_Wine_Merchant (1): mcmcsalot
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mcmcsalot (2): gkrieg13, The_Wine_Merchant
Not voting (0):

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, 24th of April at 5 am FT. This is in 24 hours.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #405 on: April 23, 2017, 06:12:55 am »

My two biggest townreads are on mcmc. Can you convince me that he's scum?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #406 on: April 23, 2017, 06:20:53 am »

mcmc, do you think i think you're town or scum?


will ask again later

I think you think I'm town.
I think that is the answer I expect from scum.


What answer would you expect from town?
Null probably, especially at this stage in the game.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #407 on: April 23, 2017, 09:03:22 am »

Oh ma less than 24 hours.

Totally totally no idea who to vote for. Weekend deadlines are bad for town!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #408 on: April 23, 2017, 09:07:48 am »

My two biggest townreads are on mcmc. Can you convince me that he's scum?
Probably not. I am not even convinced myself.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #409 on: April 23, 2017, 09:19:39 am »

Hey Robz remember when town!gkrieg made a big deal about something that was totally not a scumslip? But now he thinks this one isn't suspect at all.

Well because this one is obviously sarcasm

Really? Hold on.

Yep, not a scumslip.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #410 on: April 23, 2017, 09:21:51 am »

Well, I do not have scum reads. I have a big townread on Eevee, his post about worrying that people will see him as hedgy or buddying and suspect him for it seemed like the kind of self-aware thing you self-censor if you're scum.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #411 on: April 23, 2017, 09:22:30 am »

I could vote for E or kkrieg for being sort of hard to read and on the lower activity side.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #412 on: April 23, 2017, 09:23:27 am »

Hm, I'm surprised that Andrew is voting for me, given that he was also trying to rally me to think gkrieg was a hypocrite over some perceived scumslip (I think that's what that was about?)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #413 on: April 23, 2017, 11:05:19 am »

Hm, I'm surprised that Andrew is voting for me, given that he was also trying to rally me to think gkrieg was a hypocrite over some perceived scumslip (I think that's what that was about?)

Not rallying, just wanted to know what you thought about it. But alas, I missed e's sarcasm.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #414 on: April 23, 2017, 11:09:34 am »

{eevee, faust}
{kkrieg, twm}
{andrew, awaclus, e}
{robz}
{gkrieg, mcmc}
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #415 on: April 23, 2017, 11:22:38 am »

{eevee, faust}
{kkrieg, twm}
{andrew, awaclus, e}
{robz}
{gkrieg, mcmc}
Hey, we've talked about cryptography!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #416 on: April 23, 2017, 11:28:03 am »

Any interest in mcmc or gkrieg?
those are the two people i currently find most interesting. maybe other than faust

Why those three?
should be rather evident


only one of them is scum though

this is something that looks like it is a read, but doesn't really say anything.
it kind of definitely does say something


If I were a vig, I would consider shooting him (checked the setup and there isn't a vig possible).
this is the kind of thing i would not like to say, in a traitor environment. why would one want to vig me but not lynch me?


Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
i am kind of trying to be Concise and Sensical. also i haven't said all that much of substance which is where things start to get misty
So if you are aware of a lot of these things, why do you still do them?  Like you say that you are anti-town with the amount of words/content you have, but you keep doing the same things.
So if you are aware of a lot of these things, why do you still do them?  Like you say that you are anti-town with the amount of words/content you have, but you keep doing the same things.
i trimmed my quote to the thing i would think this is referring to. i haven't said all that much of substance this game because i haven't uh encountered much of the kind of things i like to talk about substantially. i also don't remember saying that i'm being anti-town


My two biggest townreads are on mcmc. Can you convince me that he's scum?
i townread him hard last game for being super invested and conversational, he looks neither here
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #417 on: April 23, 2017, 11:29:52 am »

{eevee, faust}
{kkrieg, twm}
{andrew, awaclus, e}
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{gkrieg, mcmc}
Hey, we've talked about cryptography!
town


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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #418 on: April 23, 2017, 11:30:43 am »

My two biggest townreads are on mcmc. Can you convince me that he's scum?
i townread him hard last game for being super invested and conversational, he looks neither here
To be fair, last game he was actively trying to get mafia to NK him to make good use of his PR. (Even if that strategy backfired). But I still like my vote on him.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #419 on: April 23, 2017, 01:31:00 pm »

Vote: Robz
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #420 on: April 23, 2017, 01:34:48 pm »

I could vote for E or kkrieg for being sort of hard to read and on the lower activity side.

I am very easy to read, which is why TWM said that I am town. He knows how to read me. I am very bad at finding scum, I just enjoy the process. Which is why I posted that brutally honest post concerning how I usually (at least early on) almost always end up on a town wagon.

And yeah, I probably do overshare thoughts a bit, but when you are restricted on how much you can post due to your current situation, I feel like I need to get out what I an thinking and do what I can
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #421 on: April 23, 2017, 01:36:21 pm »

Hm, I'm surprised that Andrew is voting for me, given that he was also trying to rally me to think gkrieg was a hypocrite over some perceived scumslip (I think that's what that was about?)

Not rallying, just wanted to know what you thought about it. But alas, I missed e's sarcasm.

If you miss sarcasm I can always provide more, we just have to lynch Robz first because he believes all jokes (especially the sarcastic ones) come from scum
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #422 on: April 23, 2017, 01:37:22 pm »

That being said, I am not sure what sarcasm you are referring to. I want trying to be sarcastic with my posts
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #423 on: April 23, 2017, 01:39:44 pm »

Can I just remind everyone that Awaclus is still voting Andrew because Andrew said he wouldn't sign up for anymore games with Awaclus?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #424 on: April 23, 2017, 02:29:25 pm »

Can I just remind everyone that Awaclus is still voting Andrew because Andrew said he wouldn't sign up for anymore games with Awaclus?

You can.
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