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Author Topic: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)  (Read 151103 times)

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #375 on: April 22, 2017, 01:20:41 pm »

why so loose with bringing up buddying? scum narrative could be maintaining the idea in people's head that that's a scummy behavior eevee often exhibits, hoping someone will bite.

It just seems like a strange thing from schadd.  Still not sure if any of this means anything.  If I were a vig, I would consider shooting him (checked the setup and there isn't a vig possible).
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #376 on: April 22, 2017, 01:22:06 pm »

why so loose with bringing up buddying? scum narrative could be maintaining the idea in people's head that that's a scummy behavior eevee often exhibits, hoping someone will bite.
not sure i follow


Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
i am kind of trying to be Concise and Sensical. also i haven't said all that much of substance which is where things start to get misty


i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
you wouldn't like mafiascum, like, at all


i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
Hehe. That should replace lockjaw.
there is a queue of things that i'm also not putting there


Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
Interested in his flip in this game, what if not being cryptic is his scumtell (aka kryptonite)?
robz suggested the opposite thing is also maybe a scumtell like seven seconds ago

So if you are aware of a lot of these things, why do you still do them?  Like you say that you are anti-town with the amount of words/content you have, but you keep doing the same things.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #377 on: April 22, 2017, 01:23:53 pm »

also it is telling that the people that voted for him couldn't take the 5 seconds to go and see what he had actually posted and see if he was actually lurking and find that little tidbit.
If someone is VLA, they should post in the appropriate thread. If they fail to do this, that's on them and not on us.
Sure. But I would think that players would actually go and and assess whether someone was lurking and not completely rely on your vote count. It wasn't like it was hard or onerous for me to do so.
Sure I could have reread e, but why? Nothing suggested that I would find such a post. Maybe you remembered it and that is why you checked, which is fine.

Can we lynch faust now? Not caring enough about possibly mislynching e to actually reread at all.

Also gkrieg's "realization" about faust is... interesting. Not sure I buy it. If one of them flips scum we should lynch the other. This isn't taking into consideration other information of course.

If there was a "Super Crazy V/LA" thread I would've posted in that. I'll be back in business on Sunday.

This seems like just a strange post.  Like why are you choosing to question these things?  Not rereading people D1 is a pretty normal thing to do.  Usually you want to reread things for interactions, so just going off of gut and cases D1 is normal.

And questioning my gut feels seems very strange.  And making such a definitive statement as we should lynch the other seems very strong D1 for someone who is saying we need to reread people already.

Nope. I only made that comment because faust mentioned he didn't feel the need to reread, which I took to imply that he would otherwise reread but feels strongly enough to vote early without doing so. As Robz pointed out, faust was really referring to rereading for a potential V/LA podt from each but he didn't feel the need to, and I simply misread.

Anyway, what do you think so this scumslip from e?

So that's why I go after townies as lynch targets. That being said, while I know I probably won't get much movement on kkrieg, I really like my vote

Doesn't look like a scum slip to me.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #378 on: April 22, 2017, 01:25:46 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?

I haven't, in any way, shape or form, indicated that I have any information that only scum would have or a scum perspective.

It's cute that you still think this is the only way to read you.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #379 on: April 22, 2017, 01:31:17 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?

I haven't, in any way, shape or form, indicated that I have any information that only scum would have or a scum perspective.

It's cute that you still think this is the only way to read you.

It is the only way to read anyone. Thinking otherwise is believing in pseudoscience.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #380 on: April 22, 2017, 01:33:02 pm »

I think more people should be voting kkrieg.

Everyone seems to be playing into their meta pretty well. The only person who has done anything scummy is kkrieg, but that could also be just being new. I could possibly get behind a Robz lynch just because.

I think TWM is town, not so sure about everyone else
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #381 on: April 22, 2017, 01:33:53 pm »

I think more people should be voting kkrieg.

Everyone seems to be playing into their meta pretty well. The only person who has done anything scummy is kkrieg, but that could also be just being new. I could possibly get behind a Robz lynch just because.

I think TWM is town, not so sure about everyone else

What scummy things has she done?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #382 on: April 22, 2017, 01:36:35 pm »

Unvote
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #383 on: April 22, 2017, 02:37:55 pm »

I think more people should be voting kkrieg.

Everyone seems to be playing into their meta pretty well. The only person who has done anything scummy is kkrieg, but that could also be just being new. I could possibly get behind a Robz lynch just because.

I think TWM is town, not so sure about everyone else

What scummy things has she done?
Ditto question ^^^^.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #384 on: April 22, 2017, 03:08:26 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?

I haven't, in any way, shape or form, indicated that I have any information that only scum would have or a scum perspective.

It's cute that you still think this is the only way to read you.

It is the only way to read anyone. Thinking otherwise is believing in pseudoscience.

Oh God he's right! Why even bother? Everything we say is highly questionable at best!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #385 on: April 22, 2017, 03:10:32 pm »

Hey Robz remember when town!gkrieg made a big deal about something that was totally not a scumslip? But now he thinks this one isn't suspect at all.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #386 on: April 22, 2017, 03:16:07 pm »

Hey Robz remember when town!gkrieg made a big deal about something that was totally not a scumslip? But now he thinks this one isn't suspect at all.

Well because this one is obviously sarcasm
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #387 on: April 22, 2017, 03:33:34 pm »

Hey Robz remember when town!gkrieg made a big deal about something that was totally not a scumslip? But now he thinks this one isn't suspect at all.

Well because this one is obviously sarcasm

Really? Hold on.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #388 on: April 22, 2017, 03:35:23 pm »

Upon further inspection, I think you are correct.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #389 on: April 22, 2017, 04:19:29 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?

I haven't, in any way, shape or form, indicated that I have any information that only scum would have or a scum perspective.

Who do you think has indicated they do?
It would appear, based off his vote not moving, that he thinks you have.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #390 on: April 22, 2017, 05:08:25 pm »

Post count for me to see who is responsible:

Awaclus - 9
Robz888 - 17
The_Wine_Merchant - 21
шэдд (I assume this is schadd by PoE - LaLight, please change this) - 46
Eevee - 17
gkrieg13 - 19
AndrewisFTTW - 4 (VLA)
2.71828..... - 7
faust - 28
mcmcsalot - 10
kkrieg - 7

Everyone with single-digit post count and no VLA is a disgrace.

In my mind, TWM is lurking, so seeing him high up is kinda strange. But I guess it's all relative.

Vote: e LAL

Why did you pick e here over kkrieg?
I thought more people would follow on e, with kkrieg being a newbie and all.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #391 on: April 22, 2017, 05:39:19 pm »

Post count for me to see who is responsible:

Awaclus - 9
Robz888 - 17
The_Wine_Merchant - 21
шэдд (I assume this is schadd by PoE - LaLight, please change this) - 46
Eevee - 17
gkrieg13 - 19
AndrewisFTTW - 4 (VLA)
2.71828..... - 7
faust - 28
mcmcsalot - 10
kkrieg - 7

Everyone with single-digit post count and no VLA is a disgrace.

In my mind, TWM is lurking, so seeing him high up is kinda strange. But I guess it's all relative.

Vote: e LAL

Why did you pick e here over kkrieg?
I thought more people would follow on e, with kkrieg being a newbie and all.

But wouldn't the reactions to kkrieg be more telling then?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #392 on: April 22, 2017, 05:53:16 pm »

I don't think a reaction for a lurker vote would be all that telling, and I didn't think there'd be a major wagon on her. e was more interesting in that regard, not only for his reaction, but also for how people treated that wagon.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #393 on: April 22, 2017, 06:04:25 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?

I haven't, in any way, shape or form, indicated that I have any information that only scum would have or a scum perspective.

Who do you think has indicated they do?
It would appear, based off his vote not moving, that he thinks you have.

That's cool. I'm curious where he got that from, and just what one would look for if they were using this strategy in general.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #394 on: April 22, 2017, 07:29:54 pm »

robz is towny
Why?
i think the pr-comment is much more likely to come from town.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #395 on: April 22, 2017, 09:04:14 pm »

i always find people i haven't played with before hard to read, applies to kkrieg very much here. although i guess if they've talked about the game at all, she's had a pretty good mentor.

still, if the case is just not saying a lot of insightful stuff, that's hard enough day 1 when you know everyone and all the game mechanics, let alone for someone who is still learning the ropes. i'm willing to give some leeway (only extends for day 1!)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #396 on: April 22, 2017, 09:31:14 pm »

i always find people i haven't played with before hard to read, applies to kkrieg very much here. although i guess if they've talked about the game at all, she's had a pretty good mentor.

still, if the case is just not saying a lot of insightful stuff, that's hard enough day 1 when you know everyone and all the game mechanics, let alone for someone who is still learning the ropes. i'm willing to give some leeway (only extends for day 1!)
gkrieg and I have talked surprisingly little about mafia.

I'm fine with no leeway. If people really think I'm scum I have no problems being lynched (that sounds weird - to clarify, I do mind being lynched because I'm town, but do not expect less suspicion because I'm new)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #397 on: April 22, 2017, 10:05:43 pm »

Alright let's get down to business people. Who is cool with a Robz lynch? I'm also getting the scum feels from Eevee. Pretty null on everyone else.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #398 on: April 22, 2017, 10:28:43 pm »

I'm sorry it's my birthday tomorrow and I'm celebrating, I'll catch up Sunday evening at the latest. So I should around pre-deadline and deadline.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #399 on: April 22, 2017, 11:59:49 pm »

Reread the whole thread. mcmc had the most posts that I think could be mafia indicative. At this point at might just be pseudoscience, but its all I got at this point. Awaclus came in second, followed by schadd. Robz and gkrieg were the most conflicted with a heavy mix of town and mafia posts.

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(sorry to vote you on your birthday. Hope it is a good one!)
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