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Author Topic: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)  (Read 110503 times)

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: April 21, 2017, 08:56:20 pm »

weird is towny.

robz is towny

mcmc scummy

got to give town points for faust for leading

why is andrew brought up so often as a viable lynch without accompanying vote movement?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: April 21, 2017, 08:56:57 pm »

weird is towny.

robz is towny

mcmc scummy

got to give town points for faust for leading

why is andrew brought up so often as a viable lynch without accompanying vote movement?
forgot the actual reason for starting this post: twm is towny
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: April 21, 2017, 08:58:46 pm »

weird is towny.

robz is towny

mcmc scummy

got to give town points for faust for leading

why is andrew brought up so often as a viable lynch without accompanying vote movement?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: April 21, 2017, 09:05:10 pm »

weird is towny.

robz is towny

mcmc scummy

got to give town points for faust for leading

why is andrew brought up so often as a viable lynch without accompanying vote movement?
boom. pow. blam. whap. [bone crunching sounds]
unrelated, but i always feel so smart for using words like accompanying or movement, literally only because they have so many letters. i may be dumb.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: April 21, 2017, 09:15:54 pm »


i don't think you're dumb but you might not speak english as a first language.

i am pretty sure we're not buddying each other, right now. yes?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: April 21, 2017, 09:23:22 pm »

that seems like a somewhat odd question, i havent even addressed you at all!

you did say you don't think i'm dumb, there might be something there. but i didn't get the feeling you said it to influence my behavior in the game, i think you are just a nice guy. (oh, and it isn't, and thanks!)

now if at some later point in the game you said "what the hell man,  i thought we were friends, i even called you not dumb, and now you are voting for me!? what is this?", then that would change
things.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: April 21, 2017, 09:24:37 pm »

i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: April 21, 2017, 09:25:00 pm »

weird is towny.

robz is towny

mcmc scummy

got to give town points for faust for leading

why is andrew brought up so often as a viable lynch without accompanying vote movement?
forgot the actual reason for starting this post: twm is towny
Hells yeah!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: April 21, 2017, 09:25:04 pm »

why so loose with bringing up buddying? scum narrative could be maintaining the idea in people's head that that's a scummy behavior eevee often exhibits, hoping someone will bite.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: April 21, 2017, 09:26:30 pm »

Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: April 21, 2017, 09:27:26 pm »

i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: April 21, 2017, 09:28:15 pm »

i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
Hehe. That should replace lockjaw.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: April 21, 2017, 09:29:55 pm »

Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
Interested in his flip in this game, what if not being cryptic is his scumtell (aka kryptonite)?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: April 21, 2017, 09:32:36 pm »

why so loose with bringing up buddying? scum narrative could be maintaining the idea in people's head that that's a scummy behavior eevee often exhibits, hoping someone will bite.
not sure i follow


Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
i am kind of trying to be Concise and Sensical. also i haven't said all that much of substance which is where things start to get misty


i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
you wouldn't like mafiascum, like, at all


i think you are just a nice guy.
you said this a few times l@st g@me
you called me not dumb, what am i to say in response, call you ugly mcuglyface? no no no
Hehe. That should replace lockjaw.
there is a queue of things that i'm also not putting there


Maybe I am getting better at reading schadd? I can understand about 95% of what he is saying. Or is that scum indicative of him?
Interested in his flip in this game, what if not being cryptic is his scumtell (aka kryptonite)?
robz suggested the opposite thing is also maybe a scumtell like seven seconds ago
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: April 21, 2017, 09:48:23 pm »

just seems weird you'd bring it up. my two leading causes of daytime death are buddying and hedginess, someone who wouldn't mind seeing me lynched might want to drop those buzzwords around me hoping someone else starts painting me scummy for them. kind of like trying to get two people to fight while you slowly walk away to watch from afar.

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: April 21, 2017, 09:51:56 pm »

oic, you're townreading me for it.


i also don't think those are the things that get you lynched
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: April 22, 2017, 12:45:05 am »

only one of them is scum though

I've been thinking about this more and if you pick any two people in this game, the chances that one of them is scum is pretty high.
Well I know I'm not scum so you must be? :)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: April 22, 2017, 12:46:24 am »

Like who/what?
You, Robz, mcmc. And that's just in the last 10 posts.

So what should I be looking for, to find scum, then? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've had good cause to ask myself this very question in recent games.
I feel like this is a great question.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: April 22, 2017, 06:34:27 am »

Like who/what?
You, Robz, mcmc. And that's just in the last 10 posts.

So what should I be looking for, to find scum, then? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've had good cause to ask myself this very question in recent games.
I feel like this is a great question.
And the answer is simple but doesn't help you much probably: Try to see if the player has a consistent town narrative for their actions, and furthermore, try to see whether their posts make sense from a scum perspective. There are two main mistakes to make in scumhunting:

1. Anti-town != scummy.
Scum will usually shy away from openly anit-town behaviour, especially in the early game. Robz talking about TWM being a PR is therefore not a scumtell.

2. Weird != scummy.
Scum (usually) wants town to understand their posts because they want to present themselves in a certain way. Acting strange and unrelatable is usually not a sign of scumminess.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: April 22, 2017, 09:09:15 am »

A lot of people in this game seem to have very strange ideas about what kind of behaviour one should expect from scum.

So that's why I go after townies as lynch targets. That being said, while I know I probably won't get much movement on kkrieg, I really like my vote
It's definitely one of the better ones.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: April 22, 2017, 10:17:16 am »

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: April 22, 2017, 10:23:41 am »

Like who/what?
You, Robz, mcmc. And that's just in the last 10 posts.

So what should I be looking for, to find scum, then? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've had good cause to ask myself this very question in recent games.
I feel like this is a great question.
And the answer is simple but doesn't help you much probably: Try to see if the player has a consistent town narrative for their actions, and furthermore, try to see whether their posts make sense from a scum perspective. There are two main mistakes to make in scumhunting:

1. Anti-town != scummy.
Scum will usually shy away from openly anit-town behaviour, especially in the early game. Robz talking about TWM being a PR is therefore not a scumtell.

2. Weird != scummy.
Scum (usually) wants town to understand their posts because they want to present themselves in a certain way. Acting strange and unrelatable is usually not a sign of scumminess.

This is true of course, but then if you establish this as a norm too strongly, it gives scum license to behave wacky and anti-town and get away with it... which is what scum wants to do anyway, since it's easier.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: April 22, 2017, 11:51:09 am »

i also think the array of stuff that's demonstrably anti-town is very small
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: April 22, 2017, 12:00:24 pm »

This is true of course, but then if you establish this as a norm too strongly, it gives scum license to behave wacky and anti-town and get away with it... which is what scum wants to do anyway, since it's easier.
That's right, but I don't think f.ds meta is anywhere near that level.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: April 22, 2017, 12:10:35 pm »

Awaclus why should I not be voting for you?
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