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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #150 on: April 18, 2017, 04:58:13 pm »

Well, D1 how I love thee. Not really.

Has everyone had the chance to claim yet? If so, probably don't have a bodyguard, which is unfortunate because ICs are great things to have
They are great. I think you would make a great IC. Double great.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #151 on: April 18, 2017, 05:00:35 pm »

I am not a Bodyguard.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #152 on: April 18, 2017, 08:43:19 pm »

TWM, why do you want to lynch awaclus?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #153 on: April 18, 2017, 08:45:19 pm »

TWM, why do you want to lynch awaclus?
I saw that faust was voting him. I went to look at what potential reasons faust might be voting for Awaclus and agreed with what I think the reasons are.

If you are curious, I would encourage you to go look and see if you can see what potential reasons we are voting Awaclus for and, if you agree, join us in our vote.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #154 on: April 18, 2017, 08:56:12 pm »

TWM, why do you want to lynch awaclus?
I saw that faust was voting him. I went to look at what potential reasons faust might be voting for Awaclus and agreed with what I think the reasons are.

If you are curious, I would encourage you to go look and see if you can see what potential reasons we are voting Awaclus for and, if you agree, join us in our vote.

This is all I see
Vote: Awaclus
vote: awaclus
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #155 on: April 18, 2017, 08:58:32 pm »

TWM, why do you want to lynch awaclus?
I saw that faust was voting him. I went to look at what potential reasons faust might be voting for Awaclus and agreed with what I think the reasons are.

If you are curious, I would encourage you to go look and see if you can see what potential reasons we are voting Awaclus for and, if you agree, join us in our vote.

This is all I see
Vote: Awaclus
vote: awaclus
go look and see if you can see what potential reasons we are voting Awaclus

as in, go look and see what Awaclus may or may not have posted to make us vote that way.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #156 on: April 18, 2017, 08:59:25 pm »

Not a lot to add right now, but I'm not a bodyguard
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #157 on: April 18, 2017, 09:06:15 pm »

I never actually read this setup, but it is very highly variable.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #158 on: April 18, 2017, 09:37:39 pm »

I think TWM is assuming a lot thinking he knows exactly why faust is voting the way he is
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #159 on: April 18, 2017, 09:43:33 pm »

I think TWM is assuming a lot thinking he knows exactly why faust is voting the way he is
Probably. But in reality I am voting for awaclus for my own reasons. I just happen to think faust thought the same thing. I could be wrong about that. I am just telling mcmcsalot how I got there.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #160 on: April 18, 2017, 09:56:08 pm »

vote: faust
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (PMs are out! N0)
« Reply #161 on: April 19, 2017, 05:55:36 am »

Vote Count 1.2

Robz888 (1): schadd
AndrewisFTTW (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (2): faust, The_Wine_Merchant
faust (2): AndrewisFTTW, gkrieg13
Eevee (1): 2,71828.....
Not voting (4): Robz888, Eevee, mcmcsalot, kkrieg

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #162 on: April 19, 2017, 08:07:57 am »

I thought we agreed that claiming not-Bodyguard is kinda bad.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #163 on: April 19, 2017, 08:47:09 am »

I think TWM is assuming a lot thinking he knows exactly why faust is voting the way he is
Probably. But in reality I am voting for awaclus for my own reasons. I just happen to think faust thought the same thing. I could be wrong about that. I am just telling mcmcsalot how I got there.

I've read and I can't figure out what these reasons are for either of you. How you think you know you have the same reasons is crazy.

I also thought we weren't claiming non bodyguard, 2.7 was just saying we probably don't have one since no one has claimed and robz took that to mean he should affirm that he is not the bodyguard. Kk then followed suit. All in all a pretty normal thing for those people to do.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #164 on: April 19, 2017, 09:33:59 am »

I think TWM is assuming a lot thinking he knows exactly why faust is voting the way he is
Probably. But in reality I am voting for awaclus for my own reasons. I just happen to think faust thought the same thing. I could be wrong about that. I am just telling mcmcsalot how I got there.

I've read and I can't figure out what these reasons are for either of you. How you think you know you have the same reasons is crazy.

I also thought we weren't claiming non bodyguard, 2.7 was just saying we probably don't have one since no one has claimed and robz took that to mean he should affirm that he is not the bodyguard. Kk then followed suit. All in all a pretty normal thing for those people to do.
Same, no idea what those reasons are. I read the initial Awaclus-vote as at least close to RVS.
Tell us the reasons!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #165 on: April 19, 2017, 10:39:54 am »

I also thought we weren't claiming non bodyguard, 2.7 was just saying we probably don't have one since no one has claimed and robz took that to mean he should affirm that he is not the bodyguard. Kk then followed suit. All in all a pretty normal thing for those people to do.
Not saying it is un-normal, but it is kinda bad.

TWMs feelings about Awaclus seem to come from a townie place, as does his immediate sheeping of my vote.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #166 on: April 19, 2017, 10:40:48 am »

Tell us the reasons!
Awaclus made a scummy joke IIRC.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #167 on: April 19, 2017, 10:42:46 am »

Andrew said he wasn't going to sign up for any games with me in them, but he signed up for this anyway. That means he's lying SCUM.

Vote: Andrew
Ah yes, look here. Besides being pointless RVS at a post-RVS stage, it also reads like emotional manipulation because it refers to some conflict between Andrew and Awaclus that need not have been brought up.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #168 on: April 19, 2017, 10:50:59 am »

I've always thought that votes with a tangible reason (like that!) are so much better than just pure RVS'ing it up. Sure, early game votes are always going to be mostly PoE and not very certain, but why not try?

I approve, although creating pointless conflict where you yourself are one of the parties doesn't jive with what I'd expect scum to want.

TWM, same reasons for you?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #169 on: April 19, 2017, 11:07:46 am »

I think TWM is assuming a lot thinking he knows exactly why faust is voting the way he is
Probably. But in reality I am voting for awaclus for my own reasons. I just happen to think faust thought the same thing. I could be wrong about that. I am just telling mcmcsalot how I got there.

I've read and I can't figure out what these reasons are for either of you. How you think you know you have the same reasons is crazy.

I also thought we weren't claiming non bodyguard, 2.7 was just saying we probably don't have one since no one has claimed and robz took that to mean he should affirm that he is not the bodyguard. Kk then followed suit. All in all a pretty normal thing for those people to do.
Same, no idea what those reasons are. I read the initial Awaclus-vote as at least close to RVS.
Tell us the reasons!
I would rather not.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #170 on: April 19, 2017, 11:08:32 am »

TWM, same reasons for you?
I guess I will say my reasons are different than faust's now that he has stated them.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #171 on: April 19, 2017, 11:29:30 am »

Andrew said he wasn't going to sign up for any games with me in them, but he signed up for this anyway. That means he's lying SCUM.

Vote: Andrew
Ah yes, look here. Besides being pointless RVS at a post-RVS stage, it also reads like emotional manipulation because it refers to some conflict between Andrew and Awaclus that need not have been brought up.

There has been no conflict between me and Andrew, he just made a single joke about it in Fibonacci Mafia where I didn't play. So then I made a joke about that joke. And now it's funny because I have explained it.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #172 on: April 19, 2017, 11:40:38 am »

TWM, same reasons for you?
I guess I will say my reasons are different than faust's now that he has stated them.

I hate every part of this. vote: twm
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #173 on: April 19, 2017, 11:43:19 am »

This feels like it is reaching from faust on Awaclus.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #174 on: April 19, 2017, 11:59:40 am »

I cannot follow any of the conversation here. I don't see why people are voting Awaclus, and I don't see what TWM was getting at.
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