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Author Topic: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)  (Read 22070 times)

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #450 on: April 23, 2017, 06:32:48 pm »

I will be around for the deadline, but will go to sleep for now.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #451 on: April 23, 2017, 06:46:15 pm »

OMGUS is not a very good way to find your reads.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #452 on: April 23, 2017, 07:08:29 pm »

OMGUS is not a very good way to find your reads.

Good thing I didn't vote you for OMGUS reasons. I voted you because I don't think town!faust votes me in this situation
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #453 on: April 23, 2017, 07:20:40 pm »

Awaclus would be a total "guess" lynch for me, he has played just like I'd expect him to play day 1 either alignment. I think he is generally hard to townread with certainty, but conversely also hard to pinpoint as scum. Especially this early, this is just totally what I think both scum and town versions of Awaclus would look like.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #454 on: April 23, 2017, 07:40:49 pm »

Awaclus would be a total "guess" lynch for me, he has played just like I'd expect him to play day 1 either alignment. I think he is generally hard to townread with certainty, but conversely also hard to pinpoint as scum. Especially this early, this is just totally what I think both scum and town versions of Awaclus would look like.

Empty post. I'd lynch Eevee.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #455 on: April 23, 2017, 07:43:07 pm »

non-empty posts are scum-indicative for him
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #456 on: April 23, 2017, 07:43:57 pm »

Awaclus would be a total "guess" lynch for me, he has played just like I'd expect him to play day 1 either alignment. I think he is generally hard to townread with certainty, but conversely also hard to pinpoint as scum. Especially this early, this is just totally what I think both scum and town versions of Awaclus would look like.

Empty post. I'd lynch Eevee.

I think the post stakes out a fairly reasonable position on Awaclus.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #457 on: April 23, 2017, 08:03:47 pm »

gkrieg, you prefer town right?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #458 on: April 23, 2017, 08:15:47 pm »

gkrieg, you prefer town right?

I think my preference would be town>mafia>IC>Traitor>SK.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #459 on: April 23, 2017, 08:16:21 pm »

Would you guys rather no lynch on D1? Because that would suck and we're running out of time.

This is what I would expect from scum!Andrew.

vote: Andrew
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #460 on: April 23, 2017, 08:17:52 pm »

gkrieg, you prefer town right?

I think my preference would be town>mafia>IC>Traitor>SK.
why town>IC?


Would you guys rather no lynch on D1? Because that would suck and we're running out of time.

This is what I would expect from scum!Andrew.

vote: Andrew
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #461 on: April 23, 2017, 08:18:01 pm »

My two biggest townreads are on mcmc. Can you convince me that he's scum?

I mean he just seems like he is...  I think I put all of the quotes about him that I wanted to in that reread post.

This one here.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #462 on: April 23, 2017, 08:20:14 pm »

gkrieg, you prefer town right?

I think my preference would be town>mafia>IC>Traitor>SK.
why town>IC?


Would you guys rather no lynch on D1? Because that would suck and we're running out of time.

This is what I would expect from scum!Andrew.

vote: Andrew
elabor8

Well I lost the last two games where I was IC, so not too fond of that one right now.

Uh, scum!Andrew likes to push mislynches.

Never mind, just read through M97, and I was completely misremembering it...

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #463 on: April 23, 2017, 08:21:39 pm »

Someone give me a reason to not vote Awaclus, other than him saying that he doesn't anything to scumslip--as he has failed to show that anyone else has done that thus far this game.

I think Awaclus is easier to read the longer he goes in a game.  I don't really like lynching him D1 because of that, so there isn't a real reason other than my read on him gets better with time.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #464 on: April 23, 2017, 08:22:54 pm »

Never mind, just read through M97, and I was completely misremembering it...
in 2 minutes?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #465 on: April 23, 2017, 08:23:05 pm »

This feels exactly like the last time Robz was mislynched D1. I don't like it.

Vote: e

Maybe?

I remember town!Robz fighting harder against his lynch before, but this is a little different. He's not at L-1 and it's D1.

To be fair, he will be the go-to lynch if nothing changes soon.

Faust moving his vote changes that. Speaking of which, I like
Vote: faust
Better than Robz. I have convinced myself that I believe Robz at least for today

Why faust? I don't like this at all, actually.

I remember e doing this before though.  The last game where I was sure he was scum, he was town, and got lynched for having these weird switches like this.  I can't think of the right word right now.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #466 on: April 23, 2017, 08:23:10 pm »

Fine. vote: mcmc

I dont see Andrew as mafia here. Source: played scum with him my last game and watched the other game he was mafia.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #467 on: April 23, 2017, 08:23:42 pm »

Never mind, just read through M97, and I was completely misremembering it...
in 2 minutes?

Well I read the end of the day1, then remembered that he wasn't on the wagon, and was against the wagon.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #468 on: April 23, 2017, 08:25:14 pm »

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #469 on: April 23, 2017, 08:25:24 pm »

That's why I didn't answer before, I don't really have a better answer then I think what twm did is scummy. I mean it's not even crazy scummy, it's just the scummiest thing I have seen yet. Maybe it helps if I tell a narrative that fits.

I feel like scum!twm want to add his vote to yours when he sees you vote but doesn't want to be the one "pushing" the wagon so he just sheeps and when I ask him about his reasons he gives me this its the same reasons as Faust, go see for yourself. It's just wierd for a towny to say that especially given the fact that it wasn't obviouse what your reasons were for multiple people. Furthermore once you give your reason and gkriegs says it's reaching twm doesn't back you up, he becomes more cryptic about what his reasons are. Just feels like scum hoping you or other townies will take the lead in going for an awaclus lynch.

I think I get your reasoning here.  And I think they only apply if people think TWM is generally townie and they like to sheep him.  Like this would be a good case on faust, but not a very good case on TWM.
I Can understand that, I do think people think twm is towny though.
They do now. Previously, when this all was happening, they didn't, it was up in the air. I think I have done a decent job of making sure town people have had opportunities to accurately read me despite some somewhat unknown situations earlier. You are the exception, which is partially why I am suspicious of you.

This is a sort of scummy post.  I mean, yeah, every alignment wants to make sure people think they are town, but the wording "accurately read me" just sends off the scum bells in my head.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #470 on: April 23, 2017, 08:25:54 pm »

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #471 on: April 23, 2017, 08:26:30 pm »

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #472 on: April 23, 2017, 08:33:22 pm »

vote: mcmc
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #473 on: April 23, 2017, 08:37:34 pm »

It looks like there are a lot of people voting for mcmcsalot, but there are only 3 if you count my vote.

vote: Mcmcsalot.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #474 on: April 23, 2017, 08:38:40 pm »

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