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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1725 on: May 20, 2017, 06:30:12 am »

I mean, come on. Either there was information missing from the role PMs this game or we've had some unacceptable amount of not reading.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1726 on: May 20, 2017, 06:39:55 am »

I also thought Eevee blocked e N2 (that he didn't still baffles me), and since I targeted schadd there, that would have made him the SK.
I had a roleblocker? This is news to me.
Err... what?

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I thought I only got it when I was converted! (And I thought I would get acccess to the QT if I was converted.)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1727 on: May 20, 2017, 07:40:08 am »

I was under the impression I would only become a roleblocker if I was converted to a full mafia member.

This is all I found in the first post: "If the Traitor will inherit the NK and become a Mafia Roleblocker if is the only Mafia player alive."

What am I missing?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1728 on: May 20, 2017, 07:40:37 am »

Eh, internet issues, sorry for the double post.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1729 on: May 20, 2017, 07:46:35 am »

I was under the impression I would only become a roleblocker if I was converted to a full mafia member.

This is all I found in the first post: "If the Traitor will inherit the NK and become a Mafia Roleblocker if is the only Mafia player alive."

What am I missing?

Look, please, at your QT at the name of your role and description of it
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1730 on: May 20, 2017, 08:22:39 am »

Ehhh. Sorry team. (Blame me, not the mod.)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1731 on: May 20, 2017, 08:35:36 am »

Ehhh. Sorry team. (Blame me, not the mod.)

Actually I was torn. In the every end of the night I was reading Eevee's QT to see if maybe I forget to tell him he's roleblocker. After that I was really deeply thinking about how should I tell him he's Roleblocker and I decided I won't. After that I've seen a lot of discussion in-thread about ho Traitor might roleblock and thought that may be Eevee will see it...

Overall, should I have said, like, No one was chosen for Roleblocking or something like that?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1732 on: May 20, 2017, 09:37:49 am »

I mean, I guess you could have given me a heads up, but it also seems fair that my faction should suffer from me making a mistake.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1733 on: May 20, 2017, 10:21:32 am »

Yeah, 2.7's stellar blocking probably carried the day.

By the way, I think that was my first time being a Serial Killer in a game of mafia.

So I think Faust shot you, but did you use strongman and bulletproof N4?

Yeah, I strong killed him, and I lost my investigative immunity so my bulletproof got used up as well.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1734 on: May 20, 2017, 10:22:48 am »

Thinking about this game more, I think my big mistake was killing Andrew on Night 2, instead of gkrieg. I should have killed gkrieg. This would have prevented his Night 1 investigation of schadd from coming to light.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1735 on: May 20, 2017, 10:50:19 am »

Thinking about this game more, I think my big mistake was killing Andrew on Night 2, instead of gkrieg. I should have killed gkrieg. This would have prevented his Night 1 investigation of schadd from coming to light.

Ya I hadn't breadcrumbed it at all, so it would've died with me.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1736 on: May 20, 2017, 10:51:00 am »

Do we get QTs LaLight?
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1737 on: May 20, 2017, 10:51:42 am »

Do we get QTs LaLight?

When I will be at the computer, est. 40 minutes. You may share yours :))
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1738 on: May 20, 2017, 10:54:29 am »

Do we get QTs LaLight?

When I will be at the computer, est. 40 minutes. You may share yours :))

Okay thanks!
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1740 on: May 20, 2017, 11:24:36 am »

Reading through gkrieg's qt I was reminded about the roleblock/JK thing.  My opinion on the matter is pretty simple:  Mod decides, preferably before play starts.  Like it says on the mafiascum wiki, there is no consensus.  I know when I have run this setup before I have failed to note what will happen in the double roleblock scenario, and I think the way LaLight handled it was perfect.  We can always have a discussion about which technique (total blocking of everything for both players or just the roleblocking stopped and other actions can continue) but I have no issue at all with how it was played this game.  The worst thing that could happen is if a mod says one thing and changes it to another, which is not the case.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1741 on: May 20, 2017, 11:27:32 am »

This game was fun to spectate. Really not sure who should get MVP. So many people played well.

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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1742 on: May 20, 2017, 11:30:44 am »

Speccy
Scum QT
Mod QT

I will also ask schadd to share his, it was cool.

Let's handle MVP Andrew's way. Send me your nominees and I will announce MVP in 2 days. I will vote too.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1743 on: May 20, 2017, 11:32:09 am »

yeah there are a lot of mvps which made me remember an earlier thought i had, that this was, like, a really good game. d3 with 7 differently-named roles, kingmaking, all that stuff (which was annoying at the time but fun in retrospect)


mine's in english
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/QCW9VTMJapyh


wherein i asked lalight to relay on:
-thanks to faust for being a good sport and no-killing (which is what happened, yes?)
-props to kkrieg for being right about faust (and incidentally on robz just now)


because if i said either of them in thread there would be some way robz would spin them (l0l)
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1744 on: May 20, 2017, 11:32:23 am »

My personal feeling about the blocking thing is that the OP says that things on the same level happen simultaneously. That implies that both players would be blocked.

It's like if the SK and mafia killed each other, you wouldn't expect one kill to go through and the other to not go through.
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1745 on: May 20, 2017, 11:33:07 am »

-thanks to faust for being a good sport and no-killing (which is what happened, yes?)
o


thanks rescinded 3:<
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« Reply #1746 on: May 20, 2017, 11:40:23 am »

I also thought Eevee blocked e N2 (that he didn't still baffles me), and since I targeted schadd there, that would have made him the SK.
I had a roleblocker? This is news to me.
so i was wondering why gkrieg got 2 results while you knew faust was your partner
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« Reply #1747 on: May 20, 2017, 11:56:23 am »

@people in speccy re: me d5: yeah, i did ramble about stuff a lot. the thing about it is that robz wasn't really doing anything and i could look more townie by trying to think about stuff, even if there wasn't much to do. if i had just said "cmon i got investigated as town, it's obvo, i implore thee vote robz" then he & i would have sounded the same today
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« Reply #1748 on: May 20, 2017, 12:04:12 pm »

oh incidentally now that i'm not in a game i'm turning off online visibility
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Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Game over! Town won!)
« Reply #1749 on: May 20, 2017, 12:12:33 pm »

Setup seems a little favored toward town, no? Even if you just took away the 1-shot Commuter--whose true PR was "named townie" here, but man did it help--things would have shaken out quite differently. Maybe then it would be too tough for town, though.
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