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Author Topic: Newbie Mafia 10: Return of the Super Awesome Flavor Names (!!!) Mafia-Town Wins!  (Read 163923 times)

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Well I took it as a claim. RR, does this mean you retract your claim?

this is a bad question. We don't want him to claim either BP or non-BP

Too bad. He already claimed BP (I don't care if afterward he said it was a joke) and I am treating him as a claimed BP until I hear otherwise from him.

I am sorry, but don't you see why is that a bad idea?
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let me elaborate on this.

1) RR is, in fact, 1-shot BP. Then we don't want to know if he is one because it says to scum who not to shoot.
2) RR is not, in fact, 1-shot BP. Then we don't want to know this, because it gives scum the opportunity to PoE.

He joked. We shouldn't treat him as 1-shot BP, or non 1-shot BP and especially, we don't want him to claim ot anticlaim. we want him to remain silent about his role.
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Well I took it as a claim. RR, does this mean you retract your claim?

this is a bad question. We don't want him to claim either BP or non-BP

Yes, exactly! Ideally we want a way to give RR the chance to nullify his maybe-claim entirely so that we don't out our PRs.

BTW, how many players do we have here who identify as newbies? They'd seem to be the group most likely to be put out by weird claiming and wifom stuff.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 10: Return of the Super Awesome Flavor Names (!!!) Mafia
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2017, 11:14:53 am »

Generally I think I see what you are saying. But in this specific case, claiming or not claiming 1-shot BP isn't horrible.

quote author=schadd link=topic=17134.msg686220#msg686220 date=1491184928]
just to ruin this for everyone, current mafiascum meta is to claim 1-shot bulletproof immediately
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I would have been fine not going down that road, but RR started us down it. And I think we should keep going. It isn't going to hurt the game for us and it might even help.

We can't erase how RR did or how people responded, what we can do is continue to move in that direction to town's best benefit.
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Re: Newbie Mafia 10: Return of the Super Awesome Flavor Names (!!!) Mafia
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2017, 11:16:21 am »

Sorry, quote fail:

just to ruin this for everyone, current mafiascum meta is to claim 1-shot bulletproof immediately

and this one:

(so that in the jk/bp/rb setup, jk knows whether its block is accurate & in the tracker/doc setup, tracker can do follow-the-cop since they know it's not the bp setup)
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Well I took it as a claim. RR, does this mean you retract your claim?

this is a bad question. We don't want him to claim either BP or non-BP

Too bad. He already claimed BP (I don't care if afterward he said it was a joke) and I am treating him as a claimed BP until I hear otherwise from him.

By this you also softclaimed that you are not all the roles that can't exist in the same setup as 1-shot BP which is mildly antitown also IMO.
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and suddenly everyone is unreadable again
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@schadd,

what happens on mafiascum if no one claims 1-shot BP when everyone decided that would be the best way to go? Doesn't it hut town? I can't figure out how bad this is.
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Well I took it as a claim. RR, does this mean you retract your claim?

this is a bad question. We don't want him to claim either BP or non-BP

Too bad. He already claimed BP (I don't care if afterward he said it was a joke) and I am treating him as a claimed BP until I hear otherwise from him.

By this you also softclaimed that you are not all the roles that can't exist in the same setup as 1-shot BP which is mildly antitown also IMO.

Well that wasnt' my intent, but this is exactly what I mean. RR joked. Some people took it literally (me and others?) and have responded as such. There is already information out there. So let's take it all the way and actual use it to its full benefit of town as has already been determined by previous games.
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or I am just completely wrong. If others disagree, I won't keep pushing the point.
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@schadd,

what happens on mafiascum if no one claims 1-shot BP when everyone decided that would be the best way to go? Doesn't it hut town? I can't figure out how bad this is.
then suddenly everyone know it's not row 3 or column 1 and we rejoice or something
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.

Is this what is called a town slip?
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l0l


here is the guy that (kind of) came up with it. that game was a flawless town win, though not really because of the new strat
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.

Is this what is called a town slip?
hhahahahha, there's only 2 scum.

But no.
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.
i agree that you have gotten away with calling me scum d1 a lot of times
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TWM and LaLight are both on my scummy radar.
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.
i agree that you have gotten away with calling me scum d1 a lot of times
well two of times i guess
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gosh, i am too accustomed to 12-player (or such) games so i always try to find 3 scums. need to reevaluate

@RR, you may believe me or not i was sincere there. Also, your scummy radar is a little bit of omgus, don't you think? :)
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.
i agree that you have gotten away with calling me scum d1 a lot of times
well two of times i guess

was I right? th only i can remember is M87, but i don't emember if i scumread you D1
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gosh, i am too accustomed to 12-player (or such) games so i always try to find 3 scums. need to reevaluate

@RR, you may believe me or not i was sincere there. Also, your scummy radar is a little bit of omgus, don't you think? :)
I actually do think that was sincere since I forgot too, but I can't let anyone know that.

And you don't think I'm scummy, and TWM thinks I'm a 1-shot BP, so not scum.
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gosh, i am too accustomed to 12-player (or such) games so i always try to find 3 scums. need to reevaluate

@RR, you may believe me or not i was sincere there. Also, your scummy radar is a little bit of omgus, don't you think? :)
I actually do think that was sincere since I forgot too, but I can't let anyone know that.

And you don't think I'm scummy, and TWM thinks I'm a 1-shot BP, so not scum.

nice try!
But no.

Well, I vote you and think you're antitown. The only thing to think is if you're antitown on purpose (thus being scum) or you're just antitown.

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gosh, i am too accustomed to 12-player (or such) games so i always try to find 3 scums. need to reevaluate

@RR, you may believe me or not i was sincere there. Also, your scummy radar is a little bit of omgus, don't you think? :)
I actually do think that was sincere since I forgot too, but I can't let anyone know that.

And you don't think I'm scummy, and TWM thinks I'm a 1-shot BP, so not scum.

nice try!
But no.

Well, I vote you and think you're antitown. The only thing to think is if you're antitown on purpose (thus being scum) or you're just antitown.
You voted for me?  :(
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I can perfectly imagine schadd/twm/x scum team now.
i agree that you have gotten away with calling me scum d1 a lot of times
well two of times i guess

was I right? th only i can remember is M87, but i don't emember if i scumread you D1
m87 you initially did but then didn't. m92 you did and were wrong, m94 you did and were scum
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gosh, i am too accustomed to 12-player (or such) games so i always try to find 3 scums. need to reevaluate

@RR, you may believe me or not i was sincere there. Also, your scummy radar is a little bit of omgus, don't you think? :)
I actually do think that was sincere since I forgot too, but I can't let anyone know that.

And you don't think I'm scummy, and TWM thinks I'm a 1-shot BP, so not scum.

nice try!
But no.

Well, I vote you and think you're antitown. The only thing to think is if you're antitown on purpose (thus being scum) or you're just antitown.
You voted for me?  :(

still do, so to say. You're at L-2, my friend!
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