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Basilica/overpay
« on: March 14, 2017, 09:13:26 pm »
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So if you have $5, and you buy (for example) a Doctor, you can pay $3 for the Doctor leaving you with $2, take your VP from Basilica, and then overpay the Doctor, thus using up all your money but still scoring Basilica points?
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 09:16:28 pm »
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My guess is the Basilica and overpay effects have the same timing, and you can choose which happens first, since they both say "when you buy".
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2017, 06:33:11 am »
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Hmm. I thougt always, if you overpay, you pay the whole amount at once (here 5$). The above posts indicates that you can first pay the cost (here 3$) then buy for that amount and than say "i overpay (it) by X (here 2$)".

The rules say
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to overpay, a player has to actually pay more than the cost.
So i tend to you pay the whole and therefore can't use the overpaid amount for Basilica. But probably Donald will contradict me.
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 10:12:41 am »
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That rule isn't specifying that overpay and pay occur at the same time. The verbiage you quoted is just specifying that in order to overpay, you have to actually spend at least 1 coin (or Potion).
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 01:06:04 pm »
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I don't think you buy Doctor for $3 and then have money left to overpay with. I think you say you are buying Doctor for 5 and therefore have overpaid by 2 and so the 2 was never left around for Basilica.
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2017, 01:23:53 pm »
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I don't think you buy Doctor for $3 and then have money left to overpay with. I think you say you are buying Doctor for 5 and therefore have overpaid by 2 and so the 2 was never left around for Basilica.

No, overpay is an on-buy effect; something you do after buying the card (but before gaining it).
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2017, 03:53:26 pm »
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So if you have $5, and you buy (for example) a Doctor, you can pay $3 for the Doctor leaving you with $2, take your VP from Basilica, and then overpay the Doctor, thus using up all your money but still scoring Basilica points?
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 08:24:26 pm »
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Donald X has confirmed that "overpay" is mechanically equivalent to "when you buy this, you may pay". Just as a bit of extra info.
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2017, 09:43:22 pm »
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Donald X has confirmed that "overpay" is mechanically equivalent to "when you buy this, you may pay". Just as a bit of extra info.

I mean, that actual wording is written on every overpay card. So you really don't even have to think of it as a new mechanic at all, or as "overpaying for the card". Doctor could have just as easily have been written "When you buy this, you may pay 1 or more . For each you paid, look at the top card of your deck; trash it, discard it, or put it back."

Of course calling it "overpay for this" instead of "pay" sounds neater/cleaner.
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2017, 10:28:15 pm »
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Donald X has confirmed that "overpay" is mechanically equivalent to "when you buy this, you may pay". Just as a bit of extra info.

I mean, that actual wording is written on every overpay card. So you really don't even have to think of it as a new mechanic at all, or as "overpaying for the card". Doctor could have just as easily have been written "When you buy this, you may pay 1 or more . For each you paid, look at the top card of your deck; trash it, discard it, or put it back."

Of course calling it "overpay for this" instead of "pay" sounds neater/cleaner.

Not to mention that the way it is actually implemented allows you to overpay for stonemason by P
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Re: Basilica/overpay
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 11:14:32 am »
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Donald X has confirmed that "overpay" is mechanically equivalent to "when you buy this, you may pay". Just as a bit of extra info.

I mean, that actual wording is written on every overpay card. So you really don't even have to think of it as a new mechanic at all, or as "overpaying for the card". Doctor could have just as easily have been written "When you buy this, you may pay 1 or more . For each you paid, look at the top card of your deck; trash it, discard it, or put it back."

Of course calling it "overpay for this" instead of "pay" sounds neater/cleaner.

Not to mention that the way it is actually implemented allows you to overpay for stonemason by P

You can overpay for Doctor by also. It just doesn't do much.
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