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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #825 on: April 10, 2017, 05:47:09 pm »

Especially how he was acting with not much time left.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #826 on: April 10, 2017, 05:50:40 pm »

Thing 1: Unannounced L-1 on PPS.

Thing 2: Reason for wanting to hammer PPS is that PPS admitted to being scum, i.e. a really flimsy reason.

Thing 3: Total mischaracterization of my play in D1 multiple times (#249, #290) in order to get a scumread on me and vote.

Thing 4: Refusal to engage with the claiming thing gkrieg and I had been pushing. That's scummy because if he'd later wanted to come out as a PR, this sort of exercise really narrows his options and makes faking much more difficult. I think there's also some psychology at work showing himself as being more of a leader if he refuses to go along with pack consensus. Note that he calls it a "silly exercise", but said nothing against it earlier to imply he thought it was unwise for town to pursue.

Thing 5: He makes only one post from #312 and #522. At #522 he's keen not to be replaced, since gkrieg and I have been proposing replacement. My reason for that was that PoE was getting really hard when there's a completely unreadable player. He comes back into the game completely changing his mind (not necessarily scummy, because so much has happened), and guns instead for gkrieg and Andrew.

[Posting this half-list right now since I'm aware we're short on time.]






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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #827 on: April 10, 2017, 05:53:04 pm »

The refusing replacement isn't scummy because he did that as town in Fibonacci mafia as well.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #828 on: April 10, 2017, 05:54:03 pm »

The refusing replacement isn't scummy because he did that as town in Fibonacci mafia as well.

And the rest?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #829 on: April 10, 2017, 05:54:14 pm »

Andrew you're still here right?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #830 on: April 10, 2017, 05:54:52 pm »

Yes, reading Space's post.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #831 on: April 10, 2017, 05:56:52 pm »

Thing 1: Unannounced L-1 on PPS.

This isn't scummy.  Scum doesn't do this.

Thing 2: Reason for wanting to hammer PPS is that PPS admitted to being scum, i.e. a really flimsy reason.

So were all of the reasons on PPS.

Thing 3: Total mischaracterization of my play in D1 multiple times (#249, #290) in order to get a scumread on me and vote.

I don't know about this one.  Doesn't seem like scum!Robz style.

Thing 4: Refusal to engage with the claiming thing gkrieg and I had been pushing. That's scummy because if he'd later wanted to come out as a PR, this sort of exercise really narrows his options and makes faking much more difficult. I think there's also some psychology at work showing himself as being more of a leader if he refuses to go along with pack consensus. Note that he calls it a "silly exercise", but said nothing against it earlier to imply he thought it was unwise for town to pursue.

I do agree that this is scummy.  Still not sure why he was so against it.

Thing 5: He makes only one post from #312 and #522. At #522 he's keen not to be replaced, since gkrieg and I have been proposing replacement. My reason for that was that PoE was getting really hard when there's a completely unreadable player. He comes back into the game completely changing his mind (not necessarily scummy, because so much has happened), and guns instead for gkrieg and Andrew.

[Posting this half-list right now since I'm aware we're short on time.]
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #832 on: April 10, 2017, 05:57:12 pm »

Yes, reading Space's post.

Ok, you are just the one that can hammer, I could only hammer Robz and would do so if you weren't around.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #833 on: April 10, 2017, 05:58:13 pm »

I agree the pps stuff is suspect, but all of the votes were flimsy.

The other points I disagree with. #3 is opinion. #4 I don't really find that scummy, I don't see the psychology thing either. #5, he was super busy and got caught up and reacted accordingly.

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #834 on: April 10, 2017, 05:59:27 pm »

I would say my order of scummy now is Robz<<Joseph<<<Andrew
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #835 on: April 10, 2017, 05:59:50 pm »

@gkreig, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.

@Joseph, you still haven't made a decent case on anyone. I really think that if anyone doesn't deserve to win this as scum, it's you, even though I'm really not sure who's what just now. Vote: Joseph.

PPE 2: You all suck. I'm town!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #836 on: April 10, 2017, 06:00:19 pm »

@gkreig, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.

@gkrieg, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #837 on: April 10, 2017, 06:00:37 pm »

Sorry Space!  You are just so lynchable.  It is probably Robz then.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #838 on: April 10, 2017, 06:02:54 pm »

And here I was thinking we had just won this thing. Awesome.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #839 on: April 10, 2017, 06:03:35 pm »

Well at least I'll be dead for tomorrow.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #840 on: April 10, 2017, 06:05:18 pm »

I promise it is nothing personal Space!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #841 on: April 10, 2017, 06:07:01 pm »

Sorry Space!  You are just so lynchable.  It is probably Robz then.

Is this strictly POE? I mean I know why you think Joseph is town but I just don't see Robz watching his partner go out in that way.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #842 on: April 10, 2017, 06:08:08 pm »

@gkreig, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.

@gkrieg, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.
Fuck sake. We had this game won
Trust gkrieg, Space + Joseph, lynch Robz/Andrew and lynch the other one tomorrow.

Now we're gonna be in shit trouble. I've never one a LYLO
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #843 on: April 10, 2017, 06:08:14 pm »

Sorry Space!  You are just so lynchable.  It is probably Robz then.

Is this strictly POE? I mean I know why you think Joseph is town but I just don't see Robz watching his partner go out in that way.

I guess it is POE.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #844 on: April 10, 2017, 06:13:12 pm »

@gkreig, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.

@gkrieg, if Andrew votes me, this will be the umpteenth time you mislynch me.
Fuck sake. We had this game won
Trust gkrieg, Space + Joseph, lynch Robz/Andrew and lynch the other one tomorrow.

Now we're gonna be in shit trouble. I've never one a LYLO

Yes yes remember my earlier plan was to lynch you and Andrew in either order, which apparently would have worked.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D3)
« Reply #845 on: April 10, 2017, 09:59:24 pm »

D3 Final Vote Count

SpaceAnemone (3): gkrieg13, Robz888, AndrewisFTTW
Robz888 (2): SpaceAnemone, Joseph2302

With 5 alive, it took 3 to lynch.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (N3)
« Reply #846 on: April 10, 2017, 10:01:20 pm »

team, i know things are difficult, and really, once there's really only the 5 of you left, you can't really do anything else than, like, poking each other with your detectoprods and whatnot. and lord knows how good those things' results are. but i somehow didn't think i would need to articulate this: stabbing up our pet anemone is just not gonna help anybody

now we have to wait for another meteor to bring us one again

gah

SpaceAnemone has been lynched! they were a bathroom hacker, a vanilla townie!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (N3)
« Reply #847 on: April 10, 2017, 10:07:09 pm »

Night 3 Starts.


!!!NOTICE!!! if all 4 remaining players say "agree" in their QTs, i will end the night early.

otherwise, please submit all night actions by Wednesday, April 12th at 6pm forum time.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (N3)
« Reply #848 on: April 11, 2017, 07:48:47 pm »


ah, this is one of the veterans. hell of a track record. legend has it that, in the great war between the nomes and the grefons, he correctly called the bad guys to be the whehelons. which was great, because it also served as a reminder that the whehelons existed. it should be pretty obvious why we gave him the fingerprinting enchantment a while back.

this one's gonna be tough to file away.

gkrieg13 has been killed in the night! he was
a wizard of fingerprinting, a town rolecop!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (N3)
« Reply #849 on: April 11, 2017, 08:45:52 pm »

Welp, here we are. I blame myself. Myself and gkrieg. Mostly gkrieg. (Kidding!)
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