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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2017, 11:20:31 pm »
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You very rarely play a Chapel to trash zero cards.
Hmm. I must be strange. I've many times played a Chapel to cost-reduce Peddler. I've also Princed a Chapel to good effect in a Mountebank game.

I've also owned Chapels in a game with Herald, though I don't recall if I was ever forced to play Chapel then chose not to trash anything.

It seems to crop up surprisingly often.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2017, 08:36:37 pm »
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You very rarely play a Chapel to trash zero cards.
Hmm. I must be strange. I've many times played a Chapel to cost-reduce Peddler. I've also Princed a Chapel to good effect in a Mountebank game.

I've also owned Chapels in a game with Herald, though I don't recall if I was ever forced to play Chapel then chose not to trash anything.

It seems to crop up surprisingly often.

I think by "you", he meant the average new payer who isn't going to be doing any of the things you just mentioned. And by "rarely" he meant in comparison to how often you would want to play a Knight just for the attack. You "very rarely" want to buy Curses or Coppers, but most of the people on this forum have played numerous games where we have done so.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2017, 08:20:07 am »
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I've played Chapel to trash nothing way more often than I've bought a Curse.

Admittedly, that's because I've only played Defiled Shrine once, and my normal policy is to let someone else lose tempo by buying the first Curse in an Ambassador game. (-8
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2017, 02:42:20 pm »
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I think "up to 4" Pretty clearly includes 0,1,2,3,4. I thought that from day one of playing dominion. (Although admittedly it really didn't ever matter to me until I'd already played lots of dominion)
It might as well say "Trash fewer than 5 cards"
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2017, 02:48:57 pm »
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I think "up to 4" Pretty clearly includes 0,1,2,3,4. I thought that from day one of playing dominion. (Although admittedly it really didn't ever matter to me until I'd already played lots of dominion)
It might as well say "Trash fewer than 5 cards"

Chose one: Trash 0 cards from your hand; or trash 1 card from your hand; or trash 2 cards from your hand; or trash 3 cards from your hand; or trash 4 cards from your hand.

But while I agree that "up to" should clearly include 0; that doesn't stop other people from being confused. "Play an action card from your hand twice" clearly means... "play an action card from your hand twice", yet people still get confused and ask what happens if Throne Room a Throne Room.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2017, 05:09:14 pm »
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Is there an ETA on Cornucopia/Guilds and Alchemy? I know Nocturne is about to come out now but I'm pretty excited to complete my Dominion 2nd ed collection.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2017, 05:42:40 pm »
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Is there an ETA on Cornucopia/Guilds and Alchemy? I know Nocturne is about to come out now but I'm pretty excited to complete my Dominion 2nd ed collection.
The layout isn't done for Guilds/Cornucopia, so it's months away. Nothing has even been started for Alchemy.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2017, 09:52:29 pm »
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Is there an ETA on Cornucopia/Guilds and Alchemy? I know Nocturne is about to come out now but I'm pretty excited to complete my Dominion 2nd ed collection.
The layout isn't done for Guilds/Cornucopia, so it's months away. Nothing has even been started for Alchemy.

Thank you.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2017, 06:19:27 pm »
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Is there an ETA on Cornucopia/Guilds and Alchemy? I know Nocturne is about to come out now but I'm pretty excited to complete my Dominion 2nd ed collection.
The layout isn't done for Guilds/Cornucopia, so it's months away. Nothing has even been started for Alchemy.

Just to be certain: I think you’ve stated that the Potions won’t be changed for 2e, because they won’t need a numerical value printed on them like the other basic cards. I also believe you said that the Base Cards set will be updated (after all other sets have been 2e-ed, iIrc).

Does this mean that there’s only plans for reprinting Potions in a 2e Base Cards set, and that we may never see a 2e Alchemy, or were you specifically talking about online, when you talked about Potion not getting a change? I’m just worried that once all sets have been updated to the 2e standard, Alchemy is no longer a part of the ‘official’ card pool. But then again, I guess it wouldn’t make any sense to include Potions in the new Base Cards set, if that was the case.

I’d like to get my hands on the ‘art’ Potions again (my old copy of Base Cards has been sold to my gaming group at work, because mixing the Base Cards and 2e basic cards bugs me a bit, because of the slightly different design). Do I need to buy another 1e Base Cards set to get back those nice-looking Potions? If I just have to wait for a year or two, I can live with that, but if the plan is not to reprint Alchemy at all, it would be good to know.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2017, 08:59:14 pm »
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Just to be certain: I think you’ve stated that the Potions won’t be changed for 2e, because they won’t need a numerical value printed on them like the other basic cards. I also believe you said that the Base Cards set will be updated (after all other sets have been 2e-ed, iIrc).

Does this mean that there’s only plans for reprinting Potions in a 2e Base Cards set, and that we may never see a 2e Alchemy, or were you specifically talking about online, when you talked about Potion not getting a change? I’m just worried that once all sets have been updated to the 2e standard, Alchemy is no longer a part of the ‘official’ card pool. But then again, I guess it wouldn’t make any sense to include Potions in the new Base Cards set, if that was the case.

I’d like to get my hands on the ‘art’ Potions again (my old copy of Base Cards has been sold to my gaming group at work, because mixing the Base Cards and 2e basic cards bugs me a bit, because of the slightly different design). Do I need to buy another 1e Base Cards set to get back those nice-looking Potions? If I just have to wait for a year or two, I can live with that, but if the plan is not to reprint Alchemy at all, it would be good to know.
2E in the sense of new cards, only Dominion and Intrigue got that. 2E in the sense of improved layout etc., all sets are getting that. Alchemy will be last. This was just based on the order that things ran out of stock.

Potion will be updated for the new Base Cards (and then Alchemy, I believe Base Cards will come first), but I expect it will just have better centering and that's it. We intentionally are keeping the image the same.
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2017, 01:43:16 am »
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Just to be certain: I think you’ve stated that the Potions won’t be changed for 2e, because they won’t need a numerical value printed on them like the other basic cards. I also believe you said that the Base Cards set will be updated (after all other sets have been 2e-ed, iIrc).

Does this mean that there’s only plans for reprinting Potions in a 2e Base Cards set, and that we may never see a 2e Alchemy, or were you specifically talking about online, when you talked about Potion not getting a change? I’m just worried that once all sets have been updated to the 2e standard, Alchemy is no longer a part of the ‘official’ card pool. But then again, I guess it wouldn’t make any sense to include Potions in the new Base Cards set, if that was the case.

I’d like to get my hands on the ‘art’ Potions again (my old copy of Base Cards has been sold to my gaming group at work, because mixing the Base Cards and 2e basic cards bugs me a bit, because of the slightly different design). Do I need to buy another 1e Base Cards set to get back those nice-looking Potions? If I just have to wait for a year or two, I can live with that, but if the plan is not to reprint Alchemy at all, it would be good to know.
2E in the sense of new cards, only Dominion and Intrigue got that. 2E in the sense of improved layout etc., all sets are getting that. Alchemy will be last. This was just based on the order that things ran out of stock.

Potion will be updated for the new Base Cards (and then Alchemy, I believe Base Cards will come first), but I expect it will just have better centering and that's it. We intentionally are keeping the image the same.

What a relief! Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I knew that only the layout/text will be changed for the sets other than Dominion and Intrigue, so this was more about the Potion cards and the continuity in design and language across all sets than anything else. Glad to hear that I’ll get the ‘art’ Potions back in my collection eventually!  8)
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2017, 09:25:14 am »
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Just to be certain: I think you’ve stated that the Potions won’t be changed for 2e, because they won’t need a numerical value printed on them like the other basic cards. I also believe you said that the Base Cards set will be updated (after all other sets have been 2e-ed, iIrc).

Does this mean that there’s only plans for reprinting Potions in a 2e Base Cards set, and that we may never see a 2e Alchemy, or were you specifically talking about online, when you talked about Potion not getting a change? I’m just worried that once all sets have been updated to the 2e standard, Alchemy is no longer a part of the ‘official’ card pool. But then again, I guess it wouldn’t make any sense to include Potions in the new Base Cards set, if that was the case.

I’d like to get my hands on the ‘art’ Potions again (my old copy of Base Cards has been sold to my gaming group at work, because mixing the Base Cards and 2e basic cards bugs me a bit, because of the slightly different design). Do I need to buy another 1e Base Cards set to get back those nice-looking Potions? If I just have to wait for a year or two, I can live with that, but if the plan is not to reprint Alchemy at all, it would be good to know.
2E in the sense of new cards, only Dominion and Intrigue got that. 2E in the sense of improved layout etc., all sets are getting that. Alchemy will be last. This was just based on the order that things ran out of stock.

Potion will be updated for the new Base Cards (and then Alchemy, I believe Base Cards will come first), but I expect it will just have better centering and that's it. We intentionally are keeping the image the same.

Where can we keep up on news for the new Base Cards?
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2017, 11:52:58 am »
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Where can we keep up on news for the new Base Cards?
boardgamegeek.com, dominionstrategy.com, r/dominion
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Re: How to get 2nd edition except for Dominion and Intrigue
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2017, 01:56:34 pm »
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Where can we keep up on news for the new Base Cards?
boardgamegeek.com, dominionstrategy.com, r/dominion

In other words, you or RGG won't forget or neglect to announce it. Thanks!
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