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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1425 on: February 21, 2018, 06:38:45 pm »

Hooray! No kill.

I think we shouldn't claim randomly. Fully willing to claim my actions at any point.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1426 on: February 21, 2018, 08:43:49 pm »

Why is there no energy in the red pool?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1427 on: February 21, 2018, 09:09:41 pm »

Maybe no one put any in there, or maybe no one used any.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1428 on: February 21, 2018, 09:46:37 pm »

Why is there no energy in the red pool?

I am also very interested in that question
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1429 on: February 21, 2018, 09:47:05 pm »

Why is there no energy in the red pool?

I am also very interested in that question
Yall be roleblocking me
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1430 on: February 21, 2018, 09:47:26 pm »

I also don't fully understand the results from my actions last night. Or maybe I don't fully understand the setup. Or something else happened.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1431 on: February 21, 2018, 10:07:36 pm »

Why is there no energy in the red pool?
My qt said my pulling red energy action was successful. I assumed someone before me would have filled the white pool, per faust's plan.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1432 on: February 21, 2018, 10:34:32 pm »

I am cool with faust or silverspawn coming up with a claim order. Let's do that, get it out of the way, then we can always lynch lalight like we should have done last night.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1433 on: February 21, 2018, 10:35:06 pm »

Rather, done on D3, not last night
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1434 on: February 21, 2018, 10:37:21 pm »

I am feeling pretty confident about the game right now. We have a WV result and townie play from silverspawn/faust. We have scum!LaLight. I think EFHW is likely scum as well.

Theorel can be scum too. How many total scum are we supposed to have?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1435 on: February 21, 2018, 10:47:48 pm »

Okay, so faust's plan was:
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We will send silver and Haddock to lower red card draw, iguana should do at least 1 card draw.

Now it gets complicated. We need to make sure to power red in time for e to use an action tonight. Some steps.

1. First one in player order of {me, Awaclus, theorel, RR} goes to lower white and fills the central pool IN PHASE 2. Hopefully this person is ahead of EFHW in player order. If so, EFHW then moves to lower red and pulls energy IN PHASE 2. The pool will be full by phase 2.

2. If EFHW is ahead of everyone in the list above, then instead she fills the central pool IN PHASE 1. Then she goes to lower red and moves the energy.

3. RR will go to lower red, unless he was chosen to fill central in step 1. In phase 3, he will move energy to lower red, unless one of the following is true:
- step 1 failed to execute AND e is either ahead of EFHW  or after RR in player order.
If this is the case, RR instead uses card draw.

4. e uses either Cop or Commute as soon as the red pool is filled.

5. LaLight uses Doctor on someone and goes down the lift.

So, Roadrunner should have filled White in round 2.  faust and awaclus and I were free to do whatever.
EFHW should have gone red and pulled it.
and then e should have copped in round 3.
meanwhile silver and iguana should have sent cards to someone.

@Roadrunner what did you mean by:
Why is there no energy in the red pool?

I am also very interested in that question
Yall be roleblocking me
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I'm confused by you asking the initial question and then apparently answering it yourself...but how could you be roleblocked if white never got filled?  Also, energy filling isn't role-blockable.  This makes no sense.  If you mean your action was unsuccessful, that implies that someone else filled white first (would need to be scum).
In order for EFHW and Roadrunner to both have done what they were supposed to do, and the energy to look like it does...
3 white energy could have been used before EFHW pulled it to Red.
Then there would be 2 energy in red, and we would need both red energies to get used up (by e copping, and someone commuting).  Then someone would have refilled white in round 3 (which is 100% reasonable).
(Note: scum could have filled white earlier in the round if Roadrunner was indeed saying that his action failed).

If however, e got no cop shot, then either EFHW OR Roadrunner must be lying (or didn't do their energy action in round 2).

As regards us having no NK, either scum tried to shoot someone who never left the lower deck, or scum tried to shoot someone that was doctored (or commuted) (or scum didn't shoot at all...but I can't see how that would happen when only 2 players had all actions taken up by faust's plan).
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1436 on: February 21, 2018, 10:56:15 pm »

It sounds to me like RR didn't fill the energy. While it's true the other three of you should have been able to do whatever, it would have been reasonable to back him up in case he didn't do it for some reason. I could have, too, I guess. I wish I had thought of it.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1437 on: February 21, 2018, 10:57:49 pm »

I am feeling pretty confident about the game right now. We have a WV result and townie play from silverspawn/faust. We have scum!LaLight. I think EFHW is likely scum as well.

Theorel can be scum too. How many total scum are we supposed to have?
3 more scum (including Lalight).  In order for both investigators to be town and accurate, one of us or awaclus must be scum (assuming EFHW is scum).  The only possible false-investigation result is faust (by doctor of silver).  I'm not sure I particularly believe that it's likely though, I'd lean that one of the investigators is claiming investigation for town-points first. 

We know for 100% that if iguana is town then Roadrunner is town, since in order for iguana's cop-result to be flipped EFHW and myself must have both lied, but that would be all 3 scum accounted for.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1438 on: February 21, 2018, 11:01:29 pm »

It sounds to me like RR didn't fill the energy. While it's true the other three of you should have been able to do whatever, it would have been reasonable to back him up in case he didn't do it for some reason. I could have, too, I guess. I wish I had thought of it.
You couldn't since you needed to fill Red.  I couldn't because it would have been after you tried to fill Red.  But it's true that faust or awaclus could have tried to fill central in case RR didn't.  But RR is likely town, so I think leaving him to fill central was reasonable.  Leaving you to fill Red was less likely to work, I think iguana should have backed you up on it in retrospect.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1439 on: February 21, 2018, 11:04:33 pm »

Oh, btw, just as a general FYI I'm going to be unavailable a lot the next 2 days.  I'll try to check in each night though.  Hopefully my absence doesn't mess up any claiming or making plans for night actions.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1440 on: February 21, 2018, 11:06:39 pm »

I guess all the energy moves could have been backed up by plan, and copping planned for round 3. You're right, if I had done it, I would have been late to pull energy to red, since anyone in red would have assumed I did it round 2. But what two investigations are you referring to? I just see the wv of faust by silver. Is there another one?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1441 on: February 21, 2018, 11:12:20 pm »

iguana copped Roadrunner as town yesterday.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1442 on: February 21, 2018, 11:13:22 pm »

You got all mixed up by the 0 energy in Red, though iguana had to be lying, it resulted in the first post being updated with current energy readings...
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1443 on: February 21, 2018, 11:33:45 pm »

You got all mixed up by the 0 energy in Red, thought iguana had to be lying, it resulted in the first post being updated with current energy readings...
Corrected typo.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1444 on: February 22, 2018, 12:06:51 am »

I also don't fully understand the results from my actions last night. Or maybe I don't fully understand the setup. Or something else happened.

Ok, I just reread the setup and I just didn't fully understand it and I think I understand (a little) of why red is still empty.

I very much prefer to claim later rather than earlier, but will respect the wishes of people with a higher IC status than I have
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1445 on: February 22, 2018, 12:07:43 am »

Also, faust's plan was specifically if we lynched scum
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1446 on: February 22, 2018, 12:59:49 am »

I am cool with faust or silverspawn coming up with a claim order. Let's do that, get it out of the way, then we can always lynch lalight like we should have done last night.

I think first anyone who did not do their assigned action should claim now. To be perfectly clear, assigned actions were:

silver: Red-red-card draw
iguana: Card draw
RR: Red-Fill Central-X
EFHW: Red-Move energy-X
e: Cop or Commute
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1447 on: February 22, 2018, 01:00:52 am »

We'll give everyone on that list time until their next post, then we continue claiming.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1448 on: February 22, 2018, 03:33:25 am »

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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1449 on: February 22, 2018, 03:53:14 am »

oh god Haddock was TOWN? Unexpected!

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