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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1200 on: February 13, 2018, 02:26:18 pm »

It seems very unlikely that it wouldn't occur to either silver or Haddock to sit there doing nothing when they could have Tracked or Roleblocked someone.

You're still not making sense. What have you done with faust?

Each player may only gain one single mafia-game action shot (e.g. cop, doctor) per Space Phase (not per round). Subsequent attempts to gain any type of shot will be treated as a failed card action.
You can certainly still try for both...

In particular let's suppose players 4 and 5 both happen to go for Weak Visitor...
If they both do nothing for 2nd round and weak visit round 3 we get only a single visit from 4.
But if they both try to weak visit on both rounds 2 and 3 we get 2 weak visits.
Similarly if scum blocks the round-3 action, but fails to block the round-2 action, then if you take a null action you achieve NOTHING, but if you try twice you actually get your action off.
In both of these cases the difference between trying once and trying twice is that we get an extra pro-town action out of trying twice.

People should be trying to get something out of every card play, especially if you have a glut of a single action-type (which you did).  There is abosolutely NO REASON for you not to have tried  twice night 1 for weak visitor.  And no reason for Haddock to do the same.
At least you're explaining yourself.

I should have weak visited twice. That's true.
I thought that mafia action blocking did the block for the whole Night, so trying twice was pointless. Lesson learned.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1201 on: February 13, 2018, 02:30:38 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
So you would have to have been in Red at the start of your turn. Which leads to the question... what on earth were you doing N1?
I can confirm that iguana was in the red zone on turn step 3.
So we have that at least.

Faust I assume you got those cards?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1202 on: February 13, 2018, 03:28:34 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
Hey cool!

Might as well claim: I tried to weak visit which failed, then I moved downwards and put 3 energy to blue pool.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1203 on: February 13, 2018, 03:37:42 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
Hey cool!

Might as well claim: I tried to weak visit which failed, then I moved downwards and put 3 energy to blue pool.
That is just about the scummiest thing that happened... of course it was RR.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1204 on: February 13, 2018, 03:37:59 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
So you would have to have been in Red at the start of your turn. Which leads to the question... what on earth were you doing N1?
I can confirm that iguana was in the red zone on turn step 3.
So we have that at least.

Faust I assume you got those cards?
Yeah I have them.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1205 on: February 13, 2018, 03:39:30 pm »

It seems very unlikely that it wouldn't occur to either silver or Haddock to sit there doing nothing when they could have Tracked or Roleblocked someone.
Waste.
Of.
Energy.
Oh man, we should have just not used any actions, then we'd still have full energy! How stupid we have been...
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1206 on: February 13, 2018, 03:41:59 pm »

I'd like to hear more claiming from theorel soon.

Otherwise I am up, huh?  I started in lower White, went to lower blue and did two monitoring sessions. I think with the massive towncred I have I don't need to say on whom until the rest of the claiming is done.

Awaclus is up next.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1207 on: February 13, 2018, 03:46:34 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
Hey cool!

Might as well claim: I tried to weak visit which failed, then I moved downwards and put 3 energy to blue pool.
That is just about the scummiest thing that happened... of course it was RR.
How is giving us more energy scummy?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1208 on: February 13, 2018, 03:47:47 pm »

I copped RR. Townie. I gave Faust cards. Are we full claiming?
Hey cool!

Might as well claim: I tried to weak visit which failed, then I moved downwards and put 3 energy to blue pool.
That is just about the scummiest thing that happened... of course it was RR.
How is giving us more energy scummy?
You didn't give us any more energy, you just grabbed some energy from our pool and put it in the least useful place possible.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1209 on: February 13, 2018, 03:50:46 pm »

I'd like to hear more claiming from theorel soon.

Otherwise I am up, huh?  I started in lower White, went to lower blue and did two monitoring sessions. I think with the massive towncred I have I don't need to say on whom until the rest of the claiming is done.

Awaclus is up next.

I moved to lower blue and did zone monitoring on EFHW and Haddock (in that order), and I can confirm that Haddock was in the blue zone just like he said.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1210 on: February 13, 2018, 03:51:41 pm »

I'd like to hear more claiming from theorel soon.

Otherwise I am up, huh?  I started in lower White, went to lower blue and did two monitoring sessions. I think with the massive towncred I have I don't need to say on whom until the rest of the claiming is done.

Awaclus is up next.

I moved to lower blue and did zone monitoring on EFHW and Haddock (in that order), and I can confirm that Haddock was in the blue zone just like he said.
Also that EFHW was in white?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1211 on: February 13, 2018, 03:54:28 pm »

Oh, she also claimed that? Yeah.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1212 on: February 13, 2018, 03:55:55 pm »

LaLight is the last to do the honors of claiming.

After that I think we need more hand claims so we can coordinate tonight.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1213 on: February 13, 2018, 03:58:02 pm »

I mean, it would cost energy twice and I thought it would go through with just one
What?  You know you can only get one action at night...but you thought that trying for a second one would use extra energy?  What world are you people living in?

The only thing that trying twice does is use an extra card.  It doesn't use extra energy, it doesn't block other people, it doesn't result in you suddenly getting a different action.  You are making all kinds of post-hoc excuses for why you passed an action.  Is it because you would have used doctor, because you thought it burned extra energy when your action failed, because you were worried about blocking other people, because you didn't have the cards?  What was your actual reasoning at the time, not what can you try to use to justify it to us now that it's established it was dumb.

People made terrible decisions night 1, which is why we didn't have a single cop shot, or potentially why we didn't have a weak visitor shot.  I don't think it's scummy that people did this, I think it's dumb.  That's why I unvoted gkrieg in the first place yesterday...because I no longer believed he was scum for making a dumb move because sooo many people clearly made dumb moves.

@faust: what more claiming do you want?
Meh, whatever..you're the IC.  Here's the full accounting...
Actions taken last night are all 1x.
Weak Visitor, Tracker, Cop, Doctor. 
Roadrunner was in Blue Zone during my round 3.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1214 on: February 13, 2018, 03:59:01 pm »

I feel like I missed a claim somewhere...who refilled central white?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1215 on: February 13, 2018, 04:04:18 pm »

My reasons at the time are what I just told you. I didn't see a reason to use up an additional energy.

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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1216 on: February 13, 2018, 04:05:44 pm »

My reasons at the time are what I just told you. I didn't see a reason to use up an additional energy.

Why wasn't this the first reason you gave today?
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1217 on: February 13, 2018, 04:06:33 pm »

vote: Theorel

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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1218 on: February 13, 2018, 04:10:23 pm »

ok I have no idea what the first reason I gave today was. You're casting shade on my honesty which I don't appreciate. If I've not been perfectly consistent about something I've did a week ago then probably because I did it a week ago. unvote whatever. I thought something and then decided to make it two actions and sit out one. I think it was because of energy.

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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1219 on: February 13, 2018, 04:11:24 pm »

and yes, you're right, if you fail to get another mafia game action it doesn't cost energy. I didn't know that. Setup's complicated.

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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1220 on: February 13, 2018, 04:22:45 pm »

I zone monitored silver, moved up and doctored faust
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1221 on: February 13, 2018, 04:28:11 pm »

Why is literally everyone scummy
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1222 on: February 13, 2018, 04:28:58 pm »

I look at the claims from the position “where would this person put a nightkill in their action chain” and everyone could do exactly that
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1223 on: February 13, 2018, 04:49:27 pm »

For consolidation:
1: Iguana - Cop, down, pass
2: silverspawn - WV, down, monitor
3: faust - blue, monitor, monitor
4: Awaclus - blue, monitor, monitor
5: theorel - printout, blue, monitor
6: Haddock - WV, down, monitor
7: LaLight - monitor, up, doctor
8: Skumpy - ???
9: e - wiggled, red, cop
10: Roadrunner - wv(fail), down, monitor
11: EFHW - printout, printout, ?

Skumpy we know stayed central (at least according to silverspawn).
No missed claim, no one claimed to refill central white.  Also no one claimed the Tracker shot, and no one has yet claimed the doctor shot.
vote: Haddock, If he actually used the Blue lift Lalight would be blocked.
Lalight was not blocked by virtue of the fact that someone did in fact use a doctor shot last night.  Thus Haddock is lying.
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Re: RMM42: Space Alert Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1224 on: February 13, 2018, 04:51:04 pm »

I feel like I missed a claim somewhere...who refilled central white?
That was me.
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