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[mcmcsalot]

I think PPS hammered because he was bored. Or because he was scum thinking he was being too scummy to be scum. I don't see any other reason to do it.

All wrong. I'm on a crusade for one. In this crusade I collect hammers and I make people more wary of running up wagons just for funsies.

Second to that I thought he would probably flip scum.

Being on a crusade could be seen as being bored therefor deciding to crusade for hammers...but o do believe town pps could be bored/crusading

[pingpongsam]

I don't see how it would be a productive lie.

And I don't see how telling the truth would be productive for scum.

Damn, the setup does say twilight lasts 12 hours.

That Joseph is suddenly disappeared looks like a good deal with that info.

Am I the only one who reads set-ups (aside from schadd)?

It's not so much that I don't read setups it's more that I have a long and colorful history of making egregious errors as a result of misreading setups. I've found I'm better off not reading them until necessary and even then fact checking my interpretation.

[mcmcsalot]

Hey schadd and pps do you feel like we are having a conversation and idp is sitting in the corner of the room adding random interjections?

Those people always seem scummy to me.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I think PPS hammered because he was bored. Or because he was scum thinking he was being too scummy to be scum. I don't see any other reason to do it.

All wrong. I'm on a crusade for one. In this crusade I collect hammers and I make people more wary of running up wagons just for funsies.

Second to that I thought he would probably flip scum.

Or maybe you're living up to your signature.

Well, that's cool but you aren't describing typical D1s and we were definitely having one of those.

sure, and good thing you cut it short before anything interesting happened. for now, all of your justification has been post-hoc, and something you could not have reasonably expected would happen

I agree with sarcastic!schadd, although there's no guarantee anything interesting would've happened and I don't necessarily think we need to use every minute of the day before we lynch someone. But not giving Joseph a chance to defend himself/claim or giving anyone else the chance to give some last minute input is scummy, especially since PPS didn't know about the 12 hour twilight and thought there would be a quick flip followed by N1.

[mcmcsalot]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

What do you want from me?

[pingpongsam]

Note that I made no such assertions about how I expected the day to wind up until after Joseph made his claim.

No, my initial attitude was that the day was over and we'd get a flip and move on. In fact, I could dig up and quote where I basically said I did us all favor to end the day early instead of have us do a bunch of hasty posturing and assembling a lynch with half the players absent during the weekend.

[mcmcsalot]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

See even that feel like your responding quickly to what I'm saying like were having a conversation, scum never wants to do that, they are more careful in their image and can thus come across like they are waiting for moments where they can make a comment that looks good for them.

[pingpongsam]

Any other game and we're all worried about assembling a lynch before deadline, especially with the weekend looming. I did us all a favor.

Oh, looky there.

[pingpongsam]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

See even that feel like your responding quickly to what I'm saying like were having a conversation, scum never wants to do that, they are more careful in their image and can thus come across like they are waiting for moments where they can make a comment that looks good for them.

Maybe sometimes. I don't know about you but I'm doing this thing while doing other more important things so the timing is generally going to be dictated by those other things and not this thing.

[mcmcsalot]

Note that I made no such assertions about how I expected the day to wind up until after Joseph made his claim.

No, my initial attitude was that the day was over and we'd get a flip and move on. In fact, I could dig up and quote where I basically said I did us all favor to end the day early instead of have us do a bunch of hasty posturing and assembling a lynch with half the players absent during the weekend.

Yea you definitely have been consistent in what you expected to happen and how you acted, it's just a slightly less belivable action than "I knew twilight would last long, I wanted a productive 12 hours with a lynch to discuss instead of wagon hemming and hawing until the eventual same conclusion"

[mcmcsalot]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

See even that feel like your responding quickly to what I'm saying like were having a conversation, scum never wants to do that, they are more careful in their image and can thus come across like they are waiting for moments where they can make a comment that looks good for them.

Maybe sometimes. I don't know about you but I'm doing this thing while doing other more important things so the timing is generally going to be dictated by those other things and not this thing.

Yea but that's what I'm saying is what feels off about idp. Like even him asking what I want from him. Doesn't it seem like he was listening to us talk, heard me say that and then went well crap I should contribute, "what do you want from me". Not a hey here's my thought on the last thing that was said or damn sorry I'm not following every post as it's posted.

[pingpongsam]

Note that I made no such assertions about how I expected the day to wind up until after Joseph made his claim.

No, my initial attitude was that the day was over and we'd get a flip and move on. In fact, I could dig up and quote where I basically said I did us all favor to end the day early instead of have us do a bunch of hasty posturing and assembling a lynch with half the players absent during the weekend.

Yea you definitely have been consistent in what you expected to happen and how you acted, it's just a slightly less belivable action than "I knew twilight would last long, I wanted a productive 12 hours with a lynch to discuss instead of wagon hemming and hawing until the eventual same conclusion"

Well, that all evolved from me trying out some humor to say I made inadvertently made D1 interesting right after complaining about how boring D1 is. I felt I had to defend it when schadd talked about his D1s are always epic displays of heroism and my epeen started shriveling.

[pingpongsam]

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

See even that feel like your responding quickly to what I'm saying like were having a conversation, scum never wants to do that, they are more careful in their image and can thus come across like they are waiting for moments where they can make a comment that looks good for them.

Maybe sometimes. I don't know about you but I'm doing this thing while doing other more important things so the timing is generally going to be dictated by those other things and not this thing.

Yea but that's what I'm saying is what feels off about idp. Like even him asking what I want from him. Doesn't it seem like he was listening to us talk, heard me say that and then went well crap I should contribute, "what do you want from me". Not a hey here's my thought on the last thing that was said or damn sorry I'm not following every post as it's posted.

point taken

[AndrewisFTTW]

Any other game and we're all worried about assembling a lynch before deadline, especially with the weekend looming. I did us all a favor.

Oh, looky there.

I get that but there's a difference between hammering and quickhammering.

Yea pps thinking there would be a short twilight in combination with that signature has me tilted back scummy on pps. Also Andrew feels like part of the conversation.

Nice buddying.

See even that feel like your responding quickly to what I'm saying like were having a conversation, scum never wants to do that, they are more careful in their image and can thus come across like they are waiting for moments where they can make a comment that looks good for them.

Maybe sometimes. I don't know about you but I'm doing this thing while doing other more important things so the timing is generally going to be dictated by those other things and not this thing.

Yea but that's what I'm saying is what feels off about idp. Like even him asking what I want from him. Doesn't it seem like he was listening to us talk, heard me say that and then went well crap I should contribute, "what do you want from me". Not a hey here's my thought on the last thing that was said or damn sorry I'm not following every post as it's posted.

My magic 8 ball told me mcmc will push an IDPTG lynch D2.

[mcmcsalot]

Robz/eevee/dylan/TWM will need to contribute to what has gone on when they catch up. I believe everyone else has posted since.

[mcmcsalot]

Andrew consistently having a scum read on me and still looking for scummy things I might be doing throughout our recent discussion and post flip feels super towny to me.

[mcmcsalot]

Want to lynch: ash, witherweaver, pps
Could be convinced: Joseph, dylan
Don't want to lynch based on my ability to read later: robz, TWM
Townie: eevee, idp, schadd, Andrew

Evolution of reads
Want to lynch: ash, Joseph, dylan
Could be convinced: pps, idp, witherweaver
Wish I didn't like you people so darn much be more alignment indicative: robz, eevee
Townie: twm, schadd, Andrew

Revolution of reads
Got lynched: Joseph (wagon) mcmcsalot, Witherweaver, Robz888, schadd, Eevee, AndrewisFTTW, pingpongsam
Scummy scum(off wagon): ash, dylan, idp
Keeping an eye on you killers(on wagon): eevee, pps, robz, witherweaver
Do more: TWM
Townie: schadd, Andrew

[mcmcsalot]

Witherweaver fos'd eevee pretty quickly, could be on wagon scum going after a townie quickly. I would bet this lynch has more townie on it because of how fast it went.

Probably the main reason I have suspicions of pps is because I remember in my scum games recently, me/jake/lalight had to all be on wagon for awhiiiile, we kept thinking we would have scum off wagon but the wagons would stall for so long we would all have to jump on eventually. This feels like townies honestly likeing this lynch.

[mcmcsalot]

Where did everyone go...

[schadd]

don't have much left to say for toDay

[schadd]

i don't even know if pps is scum, which is kind of the worst thing. it would be, like, a beneficial play if scum, but what else is new.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm curious what witherweaver thinks about all this he's been making a post for awhile now...

[Witherweaver]

Witherweaver fos'd eevee pretty quickly, could be on wagon scum going after a townie quickly. I would bet this lynch has more townie on it because of how fast it went.

Probably the main reason I have suspicions of pps is because I remember in my scum games recently, me/jake/lalight had to all be on wagon for awhiiiile, we kept thinking we would have scum off wagon but the wagons would stall for so long we would all have to jump on eventually. This feels like townies honestly likeing this lynch.

I don't know about quickly.  The thought about Eevee was my initial reaction to Eevee's vote when it happened (sometime yesterday I think); I didn't say anything at the time but took mental note of it.

By the time I saw Andrew's L-1, PPS had already hammered, though I hadn't read it yet.  It made me feel a little more leery towards Eevee, and somewhat towards Andrew.

I decided to post in twilight for some record of what I was thinking.