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Author Topic: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Game over! Scum won!)  (Read 156548 times)

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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: March 08, 2017, 03:05:55 pm »

town: andrew, robz, pps, ww, milk macaroon
dunno: twm, ask her sky, joseph, d32
want to lynch: idptg
want three lynch: eevee
I'm definitely town

Also, this is a seriously early reads list

PPE: 1?

Were 3 days away from deadline and Saturday's are usually slow so it's not that early. I said I don't like people giving early reads lists as scum befor but I don't think it's actually a bad thing. Early reads lists can be very helpful as long as people understand that as time passes those are liable to change drastically. I posted a reads list with 6 pages of content, since then 3 pages of content has been made so obviously my reads have changed slightly.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: March 08, 2017, 04:20:35 pm »

I'm leaning slightly town towards ash & his antics
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: March 08, 2017, 04:21:22 pm »

Vote: PPA
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: March 08, 2017, 04:25:46 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: March 08, 2017, 04:27:44 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.
Possible, but I've not played with him much.
And I think we early lynched him last time I played with him.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: March 08, 2017, 04:31:58 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.

Now I'm just confirmation biasing everything but this looks like "mcmc didn't work, let's try robz!"
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: March 08, 2017, 04:33:26 pm »

Vote: PPA

Do you think pps is scummy and was that an on purpose callback to the whole one letter off in votes will count...
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: March 08, 2017, 04:35:17 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.

Now I'm just confirmation biasing everything but this looks like "mcmc didn't work, let's try robz!"

At least you recognize the bias.  Also, it seems like you are jealous.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: March 08, 2017, 04:38:01 pm »

Want to lynch: ash, witherweaver, pps
Could be convinced: Joseph, dylan
Don't want to lynch based on my ability to read later: robz, TWM
Townie: eevee, idp, schadd, Andrew

Evolution of reads

Want to lynch: ash, Joseph, dylan
Could be convinced: pps, idp, witherweaver
Wish I didn't like you people so darn much be more alignment indicative: robz, eevee
Townie: twm, schadd, Andrew
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: March 08, 2017, 04:39:41 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.

Now I'm just confirmation biasing everything but this looks like "mcmc didn't work, let's try robz!"

At least you recognize the bias.  Also, it seems like you are jealous.

Oh yes ash I'm a bad dirty townie please vote for me
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: March 08, 2017, 05:16:00 pm »

Vote: PPA

Do you think pps is scummy and was that an on purpose callback to the whole one letter off in votes will count...
Possibly and yes
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: March 08, 2017, 05:18:21 pm »

Vote: PPA

Do you think pps is scummy and was that an on purpose callback to the whole one letter off in votes will count...
Possibly and yes

Those are unhelpful answers after making an unhelpful call back to what was an unhelpful conversation in the beginning of the game.

vote: Joseph
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: March 08, 2017, 05:22:43 pm »

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.

I thought the same. Will vote.

About the only people I won't vote are Ash and myself. Maybe TWM just because there's nothing on him and he did show up and seem here to stay (hmm, that could be a D1 scum tactic, so yeah, I'd do him too).

But, as far as people I'd like to see die today are mcmc or Robz.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: March 08, 2017, 06:06:00 pm »

I don't actually think we should lynch you, mcmc. But we need informational wagoning.

I don't understand this statement.

I won't speak for Robz but to me this means we don't need a lynch so much as we need to see where people position on ever growing wagons. I mean the ones that go to lynch are going to be most informative but as people vote on and off wagons we get information, especially in retrospect.

I get that. But I feel that the moment it is said it loses all utility.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: March 08, 2017, 06:11:16 pm »

Vote: PPA

Do you think pps is scummy and was that an on purpose callback to the whole one letter off in votes will count...
Possibly and yes

Those are unhelpful answers after making an unhelpful call back to what was an unhelpful conversation in the beginning of the game.

vote: Joseph

Not interested in lynching ash anymore? Why'd you give up on that so suddenly?

I think Robz might be scum.  Spidey sense is tingling.

I thought the same. Will vote.

About the only people I won't vote are Ash and myself. Maybe TWM just because there's nothing on him and he did show up and seem here to stay (hmm, that could be a D1 scum tactic, so yeah, I'd do him too).

But, as far as people I'd like to see die today are mcmc or Robz.

You thought the same what? Just that Robz is scum? I mean ash can cite his "spidey sense" and that's normal (if unhelpful) but I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary for D1 Robz.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: March 08, 2017, 06:51:10 pm »

Had a busy day, glad to have been missed! Going to sleep soon now as well, very tireeed.

I don't think mcmc or ash are good lynches. Mcmc is driving the conversation so much, I think there is some utility in that. Ash is playing a little different than I'd expect, but I don't think he is looking scummy. Definitely interesting though, like I feel there is something I'm missing.

schadd I can never read, but he seems super sure I'm scum. (I'm not!!)
 
Robz and PPS continue being less forceful than I'd expect, but I don't really have a strong read to push either, so it feels hypocritical to blame them too much.

I think best lynch candidates would be the quiet, least splashy people. When my eyes are less tired, I think I'll look into rereading the rest of the lower posters, always thought that was a useful exercise for the time commitment.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: March 08, 2017, 06:55:22 pm »

Vote: PPA

Do you think pps is scummy and was that an on purpose callback to the whole one letter off in votes will count...
Possibly and yes

Those are unhelpful answers after making an unhelpful call back to what was an unhelpful conversation in the beginning of the game.

vote: Joseph

Not interested in lynching ash anymore? Why'd you give up on that so suddenly?

I haven't given up, I still find ash scummy as I said. I'm just understanding I could be wrong and many players disagree with me, Joseph stood out as being scummy as well so I have moved my vote.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: March 08, 2017, 06:59:44 pm »

What's the case on Joseph?
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: March 08, 2017, 07:39:55 pm »

Had a busy day, glad to have been missed! Going to sleep soon now as well, very tireeed.

I don't think mcmc or ash are good lynches. Mcmc is driving the conversation so much, I think there is some utility in that. Ash is playing a little different than I'd expect, but I don't think he is looking scummy. Definitely interesting though, like I feel there is something I'm missing.

schadd I can never read, but he seems super sure I'm scum. (I'm not!!)
 
Robz and PPS continue being less forceful than I'd expect, but I don't really have a strong read to push either, so it feels hypocritical to blame them too much.

I think best lynch candidates would be the quiet, least splashy people. When my eyes are less tired, I think I'll look into rereading the rest of the lower posters, always thought that was a useful exercise for the time commitment.

Really? After all the discussion and accusations your suggestion is to lynch a lurker?
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: March 08, 2017, 07:58:03 pm »

Does everyone except me see town vs town in the mcmc/WW thing? Because if not we should lynch one of them.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: March 08, 2017, 08:17:01 pm »

Does everyone except me see town vs town in the mcmc/WW thing? Because if not we should lynch one of them.

I thought we had a bigass wagon on mickey mac. Does that answer the question?
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: March 08, 2017, 08:18:06 pm »

I mean, Joseph, mcmc, Robz is the scum team.
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: March 08, 2017, 08:21:23 pm »

I mean, Joseph, mcmc, Robz is the scum team.

That would be awesome but sadly no. Drunk ama
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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: March 08, 2017, 09:05:31 pm »

idp: a blog with 4 entries that are all just explaining why there aren't more of them

Did I just get scumread for trying to post more?

Does everyone except me see town vs town in the mcmc/WW thing? Because if not we should lynch one of them.

I'm not sure how I feel about the mcmc/WW interaction, but I would think we leave them and ash alive for the time being. I guess I agree with Eevee there but my PoE lynch pool leaves much to be desired.

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Re: M96: Fibonacci Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: March 08, 2017, 09:25:45 pm »

I don't actually think we should lynch you, mcmc. But we need informational wagoning.

I don't understand this statement.

I won't speak for Robz but to me this means we don't need a lynch so much as we need to see where people position on ever growing wagons. I mean the ones that go to lynch are going to be most informative but as people vote on and off wagons we get information, especially in retrospect.

That's right. Also I'm biased against lynching the more active players, since games with only low posters left are typically won by scum.
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