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[Witherweaver]

I thought he meant we should lynch a specific lurker.

I did, in fact.  The one for which I am voting.

[pingpongsam]

I thought he meant we should lynch a specific lurker.

Me too, but I love humor, it always gets me in trouble in these games.

[mcmcsalot]

Does anyone want to lynch that one guy that doesn't play this game?  He also seems to be not playing this game a whole lot.

who's that?

Oh...you meant idptg...it was a joke...CAN WE STOP WITH THE JOKES PLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEE

I also didn't get it. I also hate humor.

I'm a fan of humor I think it's just not appropriate for this game. The issue is this game is played 100% with people's words, every post you make is like a turn and in this game you just happen to be able to take as many turns as you want. The goal is using your turns to figure out who has been assigned to the town team and who has been assigned to the scum team. So when you use a turn and instead of being precisely clear you are comical in any way, it detracts from the validity of your turn and makes me think you don't care as much about using your turn to win.

Obviously this is a slight over exaggeration of the situation and how I feel about you specifically but it is how I feel about humor and it's place in the game of mafia as a whole.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm not going to condition my posting style or the manner in which I play the game on the expectations of people here.

But you signed up for a game where the way people win is through using expectations of how one would play so thanks.

[mcmcsalot]

I thought he meant we should lynch a specific lurker.

I did, in fact.  The one for which I am voting.

Yes I would rather not go down a dark hole that takes up any more time discussing humor and it's place. My thoughts are known.

Let's instead ask why are you voting for idp, just because he's lurking? It's very early on fkr that and TWM is lurking more.

[Robz888]

LAH

Lynch All Humor.

[mcmcsalot]

Also don't you dodge my questions by agreeing with me about humor robz. I still want your breakdown of Dylan's play so far.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not going to condition my posting style or the manner in which I play the game on the expectations of people here.

But you signed up for a game where the way people win is through using expectations of how one would play so thanks.

Well, I should rephrase to say, where it doesn't benefit me.  Or "condition to those expectations for their own sake".  Meaning that people that don't like how I play will have to deal with it.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I had a feeling he was talking about me. But then again, I'm more likely to spot jokes about my username considering I hear them more often than the rest of you.

[Robz888]

Also don't you dodge my questions by agreeing with me about humor robz. I still want your breakdown of Dylan's play so far.

I honestly have not paid even close to enough attention so far to give you a break down of Dylan's play. Have I mentioned I bought a Nintendo Switch?

[Witherweaver]

Also don't you dodge my questions by agreeing with me about humor robz. I still want your breakdown of Dylan's play so far.

I honestly have not paid even close to enough attention so far to give you a break down of Dylan's play. Have I mentioned I bought a Nintendo Switch?

You could go read his posts.  I think it would be an under-five-minute venture.

[Eevee]

Reread IDPTG, he didn't seem overly scummy to me. I doubt he'd be the biggest lurker, and the posts actually seem pretty full of content for their size and quantity, he's been commenting on multiple issues and we really haven't had much happening yet.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Reread IDPTG, he didn't seem overly scummy to me. I doubt he'd be the biggest lurker, and the posts actually seem pretty full of content for their size and quantity, he's been commenting on multiple issues and we really haven't had much happening yet.

I have trouble finding things to talk about. My plan was to wait until after NM10 to play normal games, but NM10 doesn't seem to be happening.

[Eevee]

Dylan was indeed a very fast reread. As far as I can tell, of his 11 posts, only this has been relevant to the game:

So far, I don't really think there has been anything that scummy from anyone. I could definitely see a possible scum narrative for Ash, but I just don't think it is as likely as him being town.  Mcmc's concern, whether accurate or not, seems townie. schadd seems like schadd, so at least we know noone has kidnapped him and taken his place.

which looks like a fine post, although the expressed opinions seem to be on the safer side. Not that I have any scathingly hot takes myself, it is still early. We only have 4 days until the deadline though, so it would be good to get something happening soon. Is it just me or have we gone to the day of the deadline with almost no serious wagons pretty often in the near history, especially day 1?

[mcmcsalot]

Reread IDPTG, he didn't seem overly scummy to me. I doubt he'd be the biggest lurker, and the posts actually seem pretty full of content for their size and quantity, he's been commenting on multiple issues and we really haven't had much happening yet.

This is what I thought whic is why I wanted ww to answer my question of why he is voting for idp.

[mcmcsalot]

Dylan was indeed a very fast reread. As far as I can tell, of his 11 posts, only this has been relevant to the game:

So far, I don't really think there has been anything that scummy from anyone. I could definitely see a possible scum narrative for Ash, but I just don't think it is as likely as him being town.  Mcmc's concern, whether accurate or not, seems townie. schadd seems like schadd, so at least we know noone has kidnapped him and taken his place.

which looks like a fine post, although the expressed opinions seem to be on the safer side. Not that I have any scathingly hot takes myself, it is still early. We only have 4 days until the deadline though, so it would be good to get something happening soon. Is it just me or have we gone to the day of the deadline with almost no serious wagons pretty often in the near history, especially day 1?

Hey eevee wanna let the people I ask questions answer them and then react to those answers with your own instead of jumping the gun...that being said I agree with your analysis that Dylan's post was very safe.

[Eevee]

It's worrisome to me that I have no real town-reads, apart from still thinking ash is probably town.

If I were to chart the probabilities of each of you being town/scum, the 2nd highest town read would be so close to the highest scum read, it's very scary, especially given how close we are to the deadline. Probably a byproduct of the low amount of concentrated voting we've had this far.

I hate this phase of a mafia game, where you have no reads, but it's hard for you to contribute anything because the discussion is mostly jokes or otherwise not very relevant to ones alignment. I know my posts are much the same way I feel the game needs a catalysts of some sort, and I think we'd do better if the catalyst was something other than "omg, the deadline is in 12 hours, we all go to vote for someone". I think scum thrives in those scrambles, because everyone is so unsure of their opinions, they are more easily influenced by what others think, giving scum room to be more successful with their collusion.

[Eevee]

Dylan was indeed a very fast reread. As far as I can tell, of his 11 posts, only this has been relevant to the game:

So far, I don't really think there has been anything that scummy from anyone. I could definitely see a possible scum narrative for Ash, but I just don't think it is as likely as him being town.  Mcmc's concern, whether accurate or not, seems townie. schadd seems like schadd, so at least we know noone has kidnapped him and taken his place.

which looks like a fine post, although the expressed opinions seem to be on the safer side. Not that I have any scathingly hot takes myself, it is still early. We only have 4 days until the deadline though, so it would be good to get something happening soon. Is it just me or have we gone to the day of the deadline with almost no serious wagons pretty often in the near history, especially day 1?

Hey eevee wanna let the people I ask questions answer them and then react to those answers with your own instead of jumping the gun...that being said I agree with your analysis that Dylan's post was very safe.

Sorry, I didn't realize it was targeted with a purpose, my bad.

I think mcmc is actually my 2nd highest townread, for providing the highest quality of analysis.

[schadd]

i would like to lynch eevee

[mcmcsalot]

Yea eevee I think your worrying is valid and townie but also non-helpful. Just start interrogating people and then following up with an analysis of their answers and a reasoning for your interrogation, even if that reason is I wanted that player to post something.

[mcmcsalot]

i would like to lynch eevee

I think I get why but I'm curious for you to elaborate, I actually have eevee as towny currently.

[Witherweaver]

Okay.

First, voting for mod very first post struck me as.. I don't know... too RVS-y.  Maybe like he felt he needed to post something and it seemed novel.  Not a significant feeling by any means.  But enough to pressure.

LaLight's town meta is pretty helpful and he hasn't helped clarify any reads yet.

vote: LaLight

This one felt a little bit guarded, like he starting to feel pressure (I'd been pushing a little bit and schadd voted for him) and didn't really know how to react.  But felt he had to react.  So kind of forced a pseudojoke:

that would be true if you weren't obvtown

Buddying is scummy!

Is there anyone else in this game or is it just us three?

No, I was referring to me, buddyschadd, and Andrew.

Who are your partners?  If you had to lynch one of them, which one would you pick?

Was I one of those three? Because I'm sort of here. A little busy but trying to read nonetheless.

You and schadd, obviously. I guess we could lynch you?

He really hasn't said much else.  This:

The more I think about it, the scummier ash seems. I think it's different than some of the other "may or may not" posts in that it's a semi-open set-up and UB is the only role guaranteed to be in the game. Sure, there's a roll where it isn't, but statistically that's unlikely.

There isn't much to go on so I'm not considering this much of a read but I think it's worth keeping in mind.

feels particularly careful and hedgy.  Note that he doesn't take an "Ash could be scum" type stance until it seems like something that could have support.  (McMc and Joseph have voted for Ash.)  But he doesn't actually vote.  My guess would be if we let this ride out (which I'm not doing, explaining all of this) and there was further impression that voting for Ash was "okay", he would get on the wagon.

I prefer to not explain these things and let them play further (I'm going off little here, more evidence is more better), but you wanted content and not jokes and so there you have it.

[schadd]

i would like to lynch eevee

I think I get why but I'm curious for you to elaborate, I actually have eevee as towny currently.

i would prefer not to elaborate at this time

[schadd]

ww sees pretty much exactly what i saw in idptg

[schadd]

ww sees pretty much exactly what i saw in idptg

or, rather, what ww sees in idptg is exactly what i see