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L starts with 7 Coppers and 3 Estates.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.
A starts with 7 Coppers and 3 Estates.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 1 - Lemira
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L draws 3 Coppers and 2 Estates.

Turn 1 - Awaclus
A plays 4 Coppers.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Fool's Gold.
A gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A draws 2 Coppers, 2 Estates and a Fool's Gold.

Turn 2 - Lemira
L plays 3 Coppers.
L buys and gains a Fool's Gold.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 Coppers, 2 Estates and an Advisor.

Turn 2 - Awaclus
A plays a Copper and a Fool's Gold.
A buys and gains a Fool's Gold.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws 3 Coppers, an Estate and a Fool's Gold.

Turn 3 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals 2 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L discards a Fool's Gold.
L puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 3 - Awaclus
A plays 3 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Fool's Gold.
A gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A draws 2 Coppers, an Estate and 2 Fool's Golds.

Turn 4 - Lemira
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L draws 2 Coppers, an Estate and 2 Advisors.

Turn 4 - Awaclus
A plays 2 Coppers and 2 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Fool's Gold.
A gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A buys and gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A draws 2 Coppers, an Estate and 2 Fool's Golds.

Turn 5 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper, an Estate and a Fool's Gold.
L discards a Fool's Gold.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals a Copper, an Estate and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 3 Coppers, an Estate and a Fool's Gold.

Turn 5 - Awaclus
A plays 2 Coppers and 2 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Fool's Gold.
A gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A buys and gains a Gladiator.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Gladiator.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws a Copper, 3 Fool's Golds and a Gladiator.

Turn 6 - Lemira
L plays 3 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L draws 3 Coppers and 2 Advisors.

Turn 6 - Awaclus
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Fool's Gold.
A trashes a Gladiator.
A plays a Copper and 3 Fool's Golds.
A buys 2 Travelling Fairs and a Fool's Gold.
A gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A buys and gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A buys and gains a Fool's Gold.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fool's Gold.
A draws 2 Coppers and 3 Fool's Golds.

Turn 7 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals 2 Estates and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts 2 Estates into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals a Copper, an Estate and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L draws 2 Coppers, a Fool's Gold and 2 Advisors.

Turn 7 - Awaclus
A plays 2 Coppers and 3 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Royal Blacksmith.
A takes 8 debt.
A gains a Royal Blacksmith.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Royal Blacksmith.
A repays 8 debt.
A buys a Royal Blacksmith.
A takes 8 debt.
A gains a Royal Blacksmith.
A repays 1 debt (7 remaining).
A draws a Copper, an Estate, 2 Fool's Golds and a Royal Blacksmith.

Turn 8 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals 3 Coppers.
L discards a Copper.
L puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals an Estate and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts an Estate and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Estates.
L discards a Copper.
L puts 2 Estates into their hand.
L plays 5 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L buys and gains a Sir Michael.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 4 Coppers and an Advisor.

Turn 8 - Awaclus
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 2 Coppers, 2 Estates and a Fool's Gold.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays 3 Fool's Golds.
A repays 7 debt.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Fool's Gold and a Royal Blacksmith.

Turn 9 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals an Estate, a Sir Michael and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts an Estate and a Sir Michael into their hand.
L plays a Sir Michael.
A discards a Copper and an Estate.
A reveals a Copper and a Fool's Gold.
A discards a Copper and a Fool's Gold.
L plays 4 Coppers.
L buys and gains an Advisor.
L draws 2 Coppers and 3 Advisors.

Turn 9 - Awaclus
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 2 Coppers and 3 Fool's Golds.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays 4 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Summon.
A gains an Advisor.
A sets an Advisor aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Gladiator.
A sets a Gladiator aside.
A draws a Copper, 2 Estates, a Fool's Gold and a Royal Blacksmith.

Turn 10 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper, a Fool's Gold and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and a Fool's Gold into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Estates.
L discards a Copper.
L puts 2 Estates into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals 2 Coppers and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
L plays 5 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L buys and gains a Sir Bailey.
L draws a Copper, an Estate, a Sir Michael and 2 Advisors.

Turn 10 - Awaclus
A starts their turn.
A summons an Advisor.
A plays an Advisor.
A reveals 2 Fool's Golds and a Gladiator.
A discards a Fool's Gold.
A puts a Fool's Gold and a Gladiator into their hand.
A summons a Gladiator.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Royal Blacksmith.
A trashes a Gladiator.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Royal Blacksmith.
A trashes a Gladiator.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws 2 Coppers, an Estate and 2 Fool's Golds.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays 4 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Travelling Fair and a Fortune.
A takes 8 debt.
A gains a Fortune.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Fortune.
A gains 2 Golds.
A repays 8 debt.
A draws 2 Coppers, 2 Fool's Golds and a Fortune.

Turn 11 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals 2 Coppers and an Estate.
L discards a Copper.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper, a Fool's Gold and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and a Fool's Gold into their hand.
L plays a Sir Michael.
A discards 2 Coppers.
A reveals a Copper and a Royal Blacksmith.
A discards a Copper and a Royal Blacksmith.
L plays 5 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L buys and gains a Dame Anna.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Sir Bailey and an Advisor.

Turn 11 - Awaclus
A plays a Fortune and 2 Fool's Golds.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws a Copper, 3 Fool's Golds and a Royal Blacksmith.

Turn 12 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals an Estate and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts an Estate and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper, an Estate and a Dame Anna.
L discards a Dame Anna.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays a Sir Bailey.
L draws a Copper.
A reveals a Fool's Gold and an Advisor.
A trashes an Advisor.
A discards a Fool's Gold.
L plays 5 Coppers.
L buys and gains a Wild Hunt.
L draws a Copper, a Fool's Gold, a Sir Michael and 2 Advisors.

Turn 12 - Awaclus
A starts their turn.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws an Estate.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 2 Coppers, a Gold, a Gladiator and a Fortune.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Fortune.
A plays a Gold, a Fortune and 4 Fool's Golds.
A buys 3 Travelling Fairs and a Royal Blacksmith.
A takes 8 debt.
A gains a Royal Blacksmith.
A reacts with a Travelling Fair.
A topdecks a Royal Blacksmith.
A repays 8 debt.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Scheme.
A sets a Scheme aside.
A topdecks a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws a Copper, an Estate, a Fool's Gold and 2 Royal Blacksmiths.

Turn 13 - Lemira
L plays an Advisor.
L shuffles their deck.
L reveals a Copper and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts a Copper and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals an Estate and 2 Advisors.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts an Estate and an Advisor into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals 2 Coppers and an Advisor.
L discards an Advisor.
L puts 2 Coppers into their hand.
L plays an Advisor.
L reveals a Copper, an Estate and a Dame Anna.
L discards a Dame Anna.
L puts a Copper and an Estate into their hand.
L plays a Sir Michael.
A discards a Copper and an Estate.
A reveals a Gold and a Fool's Gold.
A trashes a Gold.
A discards a Fool's Gold.
L plays 5 Coppers and a Fool's Gold.
L buys and gains a Gold.
L draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Sir Bailey and a Wild Hunt.

Turn 13 - Awaclus
A starts their turn.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Copper.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Copper.
A summons a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Royal Blacksmith.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws a Copper, an Estate, 2 Fool's Golds and a Gladiator.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws a Copper, an Estate, 2 Fool's Golds and a Scheme.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards a Copper.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 3 Coppers, a Gold and a Gladiator.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Gladiator.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Gold.
A plays a Gold and 7 Fool's Golds.
A buys 4 Travelling Fairs and a Summon.
A gains a Merchant.
A sets a Merchant aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Merchant.
A sets a Merchant aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Merchant.
A sets a Merchant aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Merchant.
A sets a Merchant aside.
A buys a Summon.
A gains a Merchant.
A sets a Merchant aside.
A topdecks 2 Schemes and 3 Royal Blacksmiths.
A draws 2 Schemes and 3 Royal Blacksmiths.

Turn 14 - Lemira
L plays a Sir Bailey.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a Gold.
A reveals a Fool's Gold and a Fortune.
A discards a Fool's Gold and a Fortune.
L plays a Wild Hunt.
L draws a Copper, a Dame Anna and an Advisor.
L plays 3 Coppers and a Gold.
L buys and gains a Gold.
L draws a Copper, an Estate, a Fool's Gold, a Sir Michael and an Advisor.

Turn 14 - Awaclus
A starts their turn.
A summons a Merchant.
A plays a Merchant.
A draws an Estate.
A summons a Merchant.
A plays a Merchant.
A draws a Scheme.
A summons a Merchant.
A plays a Merchant.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A summons a Merchant.
A plays a Merchant.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A summons a Merchant.
A plays a Merchant.
A draws a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Gladiator.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Fool's Gold and a Scheme.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 2 Coppers.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws 3 Coppers, a Gold and an Estate.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards 3 Coppers.
A plays a Royal Blacksmith.
A draws a Copper, 3 Fool's Golds and a Fortune.
A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold.
A discards a Copper.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Fool's Gold.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Scheme.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Gladiator.
A plays a Scheme.
A draws a Copper.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Fortune.
A plays a Gladiator.
A reveals a Fortune.
A plays a Copper, a Gold, a Fortune and 8 Fool's Golds.
A buys 8 Travelling Fairs and a Scheme.
A gains a Scheme.
A buys and gains a Province, 3 Schemes and 2 Advisors.
A shuffles their deck.
A draws 2 Coppers, a Merchant, a Fool's Gold and a Scheme.

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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 01:39:40 am »
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Technically, Dame Molly was another splitter, but it never got revealed, since Knights were pretty ignorable on this board (my opponent bought 3 for some reason though, even though all of my key cards were completely immune to Knights).

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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 09:03:48 am »
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Nice! Clever, and a really fast 3-pile. I always like finding creative ways to get +Actions. A couple questions:
  • What was the benefit of top-decking the Fool's Gold in the first turn? It seems like it would just slow your initial deck-cycling down a bit.
  • What on earth is going on with the log every time you play a Royal Blacksmith?? "A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold."
  • Any reason you didn't grab a sole silver when you started Summoning Merchants? It's hard to see game state with the new logs... would the income from Silver + Merchant just not have been worthwhile compared to the Fool's Golds?
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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 09:43:52 am »
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Nice! Clever, and a really fast 3-pile. I always like finding creative ways to get +Actions. A couple questions:
  • What was the benefit of top-decking the Fool's Gold in the first turn? It seems like it would just slow your initial deck-cycling down a bit.
  • What on earth is going on with the log every time you play a Royal Blacksmith?? "A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold."
  • Any reason you didn't grab a sole silver when you started Summoning Merchants? It's hard to see game state with the new logs... would the income from Silver + Merchant just not have been worthwhile compared to the Fool's Golds?

1. It gave me chances of hitting $4 again, which would have let me topdeck a FG again, which could have been good. Which doesn't really sound very good in retrospect, but I had been awake for 20 hours straight (FWIW I still haven't slept so this particular post is not the most reliable source of strategy advice, either) so it sounded good to me at the time.
2. I was wondering that myself.
3. I felt that I needed to spend everything on engine pieces because it wasn't the most reliable thing ever, and the extra money wasn't necessary because I had a ton anyway.

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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 11:18:19 am »
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Got it. Thanks for your responses and initial post! Was a fun game log to read.
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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 11:30:29 am »
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So this was the TF/FG combo you posted about.
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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 02:11:31 pm »
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Nice! Clever, and a really fast 3-pile. I always like finding creative ways to get +Actions. A couple questions:
  • What was the benefit of top-decking the Fool's Gold in the first turn? It seems like it would just slow your initial deck-cycling down a bit.
  • What on earth is going on with the log every time you play a Royal Blacksmith?? "A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold."
  • Any reason you didn't grab a sole silver when you started Summoning Merchants? It's hard to see game state with the new logs... would the income from Silver + Merchant just not have been worthwhile compared to the Fool's Golds?

to the second question: you reveal your hand after every blacksmith play, since you have to discard all your coppers.

Also congratz, awaclus. I tried Summon as the only splitter a couple times, but I have failed so far to win.
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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 02:27:23 pm »
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Nice! Clever, and a really fast 3-pile. I always like finding creative ways to get +Actions. A couple questions:
  • What was the benefit of top-decking the Fool's Gold in the first turn? It seems like it would just slow your initial deck-cycling down a bit.
  • What on earth is going on with the log every time you play a Royal Blacksmith?? "A reveals a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold."
  • Any reason you didn't grab a sole silver when you started Summoning Merchants? It's hard to see game state with the new logs... would the income from Silver + Merchant just not have been worthwhile compared to the Fool's Golds?

to the second question: you reveal your hand after every blacksmith play, since you have to discard all your coppers.

Also congratz, awaclus. I tried Summon as the only splitter a couple times, but I have failed so far to win.

But my hand wasn't "a Merchant, 2 Coppers, a Scheme and a Fool's Gold" every time I played Royal Blacksmith. Especially not before I had even bought any Merchants.

Thanks. In all fairness, my opponent was making a lot of... questionable plays here and I had at least decent shuffles IIRC, so the actual winning part wasn't that difficult as long as you could put the strategy together at all.

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Re: In which I built a terminal draw engine with Summon as the only splitter
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 01:02:09 pm »
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Should post that log in Bug reports.
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