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[pingpongsam]

terminal silvers for 3$ or 4$ must stay terminal

Conspirator disagrees.

[dondon151]

Conspirator's only additional benefit, aside from being a terminal Silver, is that it sometimes isn't terminal.

[Davio]

I voted Chancellor because I've never bothered to buy it and anyone who I've played who bought it summarily lost. I think it could be fixed with a +1 Action.

Chancellor-stash is an elite two card combo, usually the best strategy whenever they appear in the same kingdom.

Honestly, even just a terminal silver with no other ability would be better than scout. At least you can use it in double tactician decks, king it and throne it.

I think Duchess is usually better than Scout.

[ehunt]

too many cooks.... too many cooks

chancellor is really nice to have around... i often find that when i pick one up (which is rare but occurs when there's no other terminal i want) i use it more than i expected to. one time it's particularly useful is in a deck that you might call a semi-engine, e.g., a bunch of labs and cantrips but no heavy trashing. the point is that in these decks you sometimes reach the bottom of your deck during a good turn with a lab in hand. ordinarily you cant afford to play the lab and create a crap reshuffle that ruins the next two turns. when chancellor is your terminal, this is no problem.

[werothegreat]

too many cooks.... too many cooks

And now I've finally watched that, and I'm holding you responsible.

[Amac]

Thief in 2P has even less use than Scout. Scout at least does anything nice for your deck instead of clearing out your opponents coppers. (Although both are, most of the time, inferior to Silver) Even Transmute, one of the slowest cards in the entire game, has it's uses, especially with more Alchemy cards on the board. Thief isn't even a good buy in base only games >99% of the time. Sometimes against Chapeled decks it's okay, but even that are rare cases.

In games with more players, Thief becomes better and Scout will replace Thief. I also think Counting House is... pretty bad at 5, but there are situations it can shine at least.

And I think Adventurer is okay. Not "I will but it many times over gold"-okay, but in a deck with much junk it's pretty nice. Providing you can get up to 6 with much junk anyway.

[Awaclus]

Thief in 2P has even less use than Scout. Scout at least does anything nice for your deck instead of clearing out your opponents coppers. (Although both are, most of the time, inferior to Silver) Even Transmute, one of the slowest cards in the entire game, has it's uses, especially with more Alchemy cards on the board. Thief isn't even a good buy in base only games >99% of the time. Sometimes against Chapeled decks it's okay, but even that are rare cases.

Scout does something nice for your deck, but it practically never does anything nice enough to justify losing one card in your hand or buying the card for $4. Thief usually just helps your opponents, but at least there are situations where it's actually a card that you want to buy.

[Asper]

Just yesterday i won a Colony game with Counting Houses and Princed Storeroom / Princed Plaza. Prince is an awesome combo-enabler.

[ThaddeusB]

Thief remains the worst in my opinion.  Scout does Ok in alt VP games and a few other situations. You probably need a way to gain out for free to make it worth getting, but at least is worth getting. Thief is very rarely worth getting even for free. Ttansmute's only problem, albeit a big one, is the strange cost that basically means you can only consider it when there is another potion cost card. Nothing else even deserves to be in the same conversation as those 3.

[silverspawn]

you basically never gain cards for free in dominion, therefore it doesn't matter how good scout does if you get him for free. If that was what mattered, then Scout >> Thief for sure. But it's not.

[LastFootnote]

Thief remains the worst in my opinion.  Scout does Ok in alt VP games and a few other situations. You probably need a way to gain out for free to make it worth getting, but at least is worth getting. Thief is very rarely worth getting even for free. Ttansmute's only problem, albeit a big one, is the strange cost that basically means you can only consider it when there is another potion cost card. Nothing else even deserves to be in the same conversation as those 3.

Mostly agreed, although I think an argument could be made for Adventurer.

you basically never gain cards for free in dominion, therefore it doesn't matter how good scout does if you get him for free. If that was what mattered, then Scout >> Thief for sure. But it's not.

I think it's reasonable to say that Scout becomes a better value proposition as $4 cards become more accessible e.g. when Ironworks is on the board. Even in those cases, it's rare for Scout to really help you much. It has to have so many factors in its favor to be worthwhile.

[florrat]

I voted Chancellor because I've never bothered to buy it and anyone who I've played who bought it summarily lost. I think it could be fixed with a +1 Action.

Chancellor-stash is an elite two card combo, usually the best strategy whenever they appear in the same kingdom.

Is Chancellor-Stash that good? I thought it was mediocre, only viable on reasonably weak boards.
Scavenger-Stash on the other hand is pretty strong.

[Seprix]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

[AJD]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

Raid isn't a community either.

[werothegreat]

Raid is fine, what are you talking about, they can't all be the best Event ever.

[markusin]

Raid is fine, what are you talking about, they can't all be the best Event ever.

But there can be one that is the worst. I'm not sure it's Raid. I haven't played with any of the Empires Events either.

[Chris is me]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

have you literally ever bought raid yet

like at a certain point this gets worse than Roadrunner's scout fetish

[Beyond Awesome]

Raid is actually okay, well, at least better than the worst Dominion cards. It works in, well, BM and Feodum games. Or, at least, those are the only types of games I've bought it in. I mean, yah, BMish cards usually aren't great, but they aren't the worst cards either.

[pacovf]

I think that Silver flooding is just not "cool"/fun, so people will tend to avoid trying it, even when it would be the right choice.

I still would like to have a Silver flood strategy article, by the way, but... how do Raid, Masterpiece and Delve compare to each other? Can you add Trader to that category? Does Storyteller make you want to go the Silver flood way (probably not)? Am I forgetting any other card?

[eHalcyon]

I think that Silver flooding is just not "cool"/fun, so people will tend to avoid trying it, even when it would be the right choice.

I still would like to have a Silver flood strategy article, by the way, but... how do Raid, Masterpiece and Delve compare to each other? Can you add Trader to that category? Does Storyteller make you want to go the Silver flood way (probably not)? Am I forgetting any other card?

Conquest may be worth considering.  Maybe lesser Silver gainers like Bureaucrat, JoaT, Explorer.

[Roadrunner7671]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

have you literally ever bought raid yet

like at a certain point this gets worse than Roadrunner's scout fetish

/tag

[popsofctown]

If the frequency of Scrying Pool keeps going down as new sets are released and no new Scout combos are added Scout is gonna start to win these.

[Seprix]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

have you literally ever bought raid yet

like at a certain point this gets worse than Roadrunner's scout fetish

I will never buy Raid. Raid is the worst card ever.

[Asper]

Needs to be updated to include Raid. But wait, Seprix! Raid isn't a card! You're right. But we still need to include Raid as a community.

have you literally ever bought raid yet

like at a certain point this gets worse than Roadrunner's scout fetish

I will never buy Raid. Raid is the worst card ever.

Your banner (showing a red-nosed, confused guy raising his hands in perplexity) renders me entirely incapable of taking your rant serious. I like it.

[Seprix]

Your banner renders me entirely incapable of taking your rambling serious. I like it.

My banner is that bad?