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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2017, 02:42:20 pm »
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I wonder how many ranks Relic will go up
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2017, 08:12:48 pm »
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I think Festival is most accurately equated to a Vassal that hits a Necropolis plus a Market Square.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #152 on: February 09, 2017, 08:31:22 pm »
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I think Festival is most accurately equated to a Vassal that hits a Necropolis plus a Market Square.
How does Vassal hit 2 cards?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #153 on: February 09, 2017, 08:35:11 pm »
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I think Festival is most accurately equated to a Vassal that hits a Necropolis plus a Market Square.
How does Vassal hit 2 cards?

You Vassal a Vassal apparently with Lost Arts on it so it functions like Necropolis, sort of.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #154 on: February 09, 2017, 08:42:45 pm »
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I think Festival is most accurately equated to a Vassal that hits a Necropolis plus a Market Square.
How does Vassal hit 2 cards?

You Vassal a Vassal apparently with Lost Arts on it so it functions like Necropolis, sort of.

Or the Market Square was chosen with Lost Arts. No wait that doesn't work.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #155 on: February 09, 2017, 09:35:35 pm »
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Your Vassal hits a Seaway-d Necropolis that puts a random card back on top of your deck
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #156 on: February 09, 2017, 10:07:19 pm »
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Your Vassal hits a Seaway-d Necropolis that puts a random card back on top of your deck

How do you Seaway a Necropolis when it is a non-supply Card?

It's more like your Vassal hits a Ruined Village with the +Action Token and +Buy Token on Ruins.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2017, 10:15:03 pm »
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No... Poor use of language.

The Vassal hits Necropolis, then you play Market Square separately.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #158 on: February 09, 2017, 11:32:30 pm »
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Your Vassal hits a Seaway-d Necropolis that puts a random card back on top of your deck

How do you Seaway a Necropolis when it is a non-supply Card?

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #159 on: February 10, 2017, 02:04:29 am »
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At least this preposterous discussions shows that mirror universes in which fair is foul and foul is fair do exist and that communication between our world and topsy-turvy land is possible.

Awaclus is pretty much the Donald Trump of Dominion.
Was the point of this post something else than to insult a forum member that sometimes voices opinions that differ from your own?

I don't care if people disagree with me; I might actually be wrong. It happens. Maybe Grand Market sucks and Laboratory is the best card in the universe. Whatever.

What I care about is the tone of the discussion, and somehow it always turns highly annoying and/or nasty with Awaclus in it.
And so you thought "I will work on making the tone less annoying and/or nasty... what could I possibly write to achieve that... oh right, I know: 'Awaclus is pretty much the Donald Trump of Dominion.'!"
Looks like I my initial impression was correct, you do indeed belong to the Awaclus fanclub and always popping up to defend him.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #160 on: February 10, 2017, 02:06:10 am »
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So the core strategy is Village + Smithy to draw your deck every turn. Festival helps supplement that strategy because all of its pieces are useful additions to a Village + Smithy deck. You're just never* going to want to run a Festival + Smithy deck when Village is also available.
Yes you do, with good trashing. If Chapel, Festival and Smithy are present going for Festival and Smithy is pretty much a dominant strategy. I totally agree though that in thicker decks draw power matters relatively more. But even then the non-terminal payload of Grand Market is in general better than the extra card from Lab.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2017, 04:46:38 am »
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Looks like I my initial impression was correct, you do indeed belong to the Awaclus fanclub and always popping up to defend him.

So, the only reason you could possibly defend someone who's unjustly accused is that you're a fan of that person?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2017, 08:13:12 am »
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Can you guys yell at each other in private messages so other people don't have to check this thread and just see a bunch of bickering when they hoped for updates to the list?

You can even use more colorful language in private. Everybody wins!
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2017, 11:09:55 am »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #164 on: February 10, 2017, 11:27:08 am »
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I wonder how many ranks Relic will go up

18. The answer is 18 ranks.

Sweet. I always try to get a Relic or two if I can.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #165 on: February 10, 2017, 11:46:33 am »
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I thought we'd see Bustling Village by now.  You guys really like +3 Actions!

Also, Distant Lands has gone up at least 8, City has gone up at least 2, Catacombs has gone up at least 1, and Rabble has at least stayed the same.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #166 on: February 10, 2017, 11:50:38 am »
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I thought we'd see Bustling Village by now.  You guys really like +3 Actions!
Well, it's pretty clear to me that Bustling Village is better than Bandit Camp, which we just saw now, and it's probably also better than Bazaar, which we have yet to see.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #167 on: February 10, 2017, 12:07:41 pm »
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No one's mentioned Giant or Inn. Those seem a little low to me.

I think Storyteller should go up a bit, even just one space. I don't have much experience w/ the card, but it can give gigantic draw. You do HAVE to pay your money though, so it can never be a Peddler and doesn't help if you draw your deck anyways. Good synergy w/ some things like Poor House(well, you'll probably draw more treasures so maybe not,) and Tactician.

I look forward to seeing the rest:) This seems educational.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #168 on: February 10, 2017, 12:50:25 pm »
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anyway, the biggest misrank is now behind us. that feels nice.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #169 on: February 10, 2017, 01:18:10 pm »
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anyway, the biggest misrank is now behind us. that feels nice.

Are you referring to Triumph or Storyteller (or something else)?

I'm compiling a list of all the cards where I differ from the community by more than 10 ranks.  It's a long list...  I'll post it with commentary at the end of the rankings (or right before the final set of rankings).  The biggest deviations so far are: Seaway, Storyteller, and Triumph too low; and Jester and Baker too high.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #170 on: February 10, 2017, 01:22:35 pm »
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I rated Triumph lower, but it should be higher.  I played several games where Triumph was just the dominant strategy.  Common mistake is to imagine gaining a bunch of cards, capped off with a Triumph.  NOPE.  Buy lots of Triumphs.  Common line at end of turn: "And... I'll buy 3 Triumphs, gaining 6, 7, and 8 VP."  Give Dominate a run for its money.

Re: Storyteller.  I imagine most of the people who play on Twitch are better players than me, but I often find their Storyteller plays bizarre.  For example, adding Storyteller to an engine just to sift a few copper.  With Storyteller, you don't really need other draw, you just need payoff.  After all, silver = lab.  Storyteller is weak if you're stuck thinking that you only add payoff to your engine after you're drawing deck.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #171 on: February 10, 2017, 01:35:22 pm »
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I rated Triumph lower, but it should be higher.  I played several games where Triumph was just the dominant strategy.  Common mistake is to imagine gaining a bunch of cards, capped off with a Triumph.  NOPE.  Buy lots of Triumphs.  Common line at end of turn: "And... I'll buy 3 Triumphs, gaining 6, 7, and 8 VP."  Give Dominate a run for its money.

It is not unusual for Triumph to completely eclipse all other methods of gaining VP (while Estates last).  The only strike against Triumph is that the games where it can generate the most VP are games that are likely to end on 3-piles before both players have an opportunity to green.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #172 on: February 17, 2017, 05:01:26 pm »
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Any updates on the rest of the list?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #173 on: February 17, 2017, 05:31:41 pm »
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Any updates on the rest of the list?

Whenever Qvist feels like it?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $5 Cards
« Reply #174 on: February 17, 2017, 05:48:12 pm »
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