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First Turn VP Chips
« on: January 12, 2017, 06:48:07 am »
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You and a friend have decided to play a game with all the Landmarks and Events! (And some cards of your choosing.) You are going first. Just for silliness' sake, you decide to get the most VP chips you can on the first turn (not counting Mission turns or between-turn time). How many VP chips can you get on turn 1 when you go first?
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 12:05:19 pm »
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Two ways to get 16 VP tokens:

Villa, Cache, Border Village, Baker, Shelters: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 4C = $7. Buy Travelling Fair x2, $3. Buy Banquet gaining Cache, $0. (+2 VP from Labyrinth). Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1VP from Tomb), gaining Border Village gaining Cache. Buy Triumph. You've gained Villa, 2x Cache, 6x Copper, Border Village, Estate = 11VP. (+2VP from Battlefield). Total 16VP.

Villa, Death Cart, Baker: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 5C = $8. Buy Travelling Fair, $6. Buy Death Cart gaining 2x Ruins, $2, so +2VP from Basilica + 2VP from Labyrinth. Buy Travelling Fair, $0. Buy Curse, getting 4VP from Defiled Shrine. Buy Triumph, gaining Estate, getting 6VP, plus 2VP from Battlefield. Total 16VP.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 12:09:59 pm »
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I'm sure there should be some way to get an arbitrarily large amount.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 08:46:10 pm »
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Two ways to get 16 VP tokens:

Villa, Cache, Border Village, Baker, Shelters: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 4C = $7. Buy Travelling Fair x2, $3. Buy Banquet gaining Cache, $0. (+2 VP from Labyrinth). Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1VP from Tomb), gaining Border Village gaining Cache. Buy Triumph. You've gained Villa, 2x Cache, 6x Copper, Border Village, Estate = 11VP. (+2VP from Battlefield). Total 16VP.

Villa, Death Cart, Baker: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 5C = $8. Buy Travelling Fair, $6. Buy Death Cart gaining 2x Ruins, $2, so +2VP from Basilica + 2VP from Labyrinth. Buy Travelling Fair, $0. Buy Curse, getting 4VP from Defiled Shrine. Buy Triumph, gaining Estate, getting 6VP, plus 2VP from Battlefield. Total 16VP.

These are good, but try combining them :)

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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 05:04:59 am »
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Baker, Villa, Death Cart, Border Village, Shelters: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 3C = $6, 1 Buy. Buy Travelling Fair x2, $2, 3 Buys. Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Death Cart gaining 2 Ruins, +2 VP from Labyrinth; $2, 2 Buys. Buy Curse, +2VP from Basilica, +5VP from Defiled Shrine; $2, 1 Buy. Buy Travelling Fair, $0, 2 Buys. Buy Copper. Buy Triumph, gaining Estate, +2VP from Battlefield, +8VP from Triumph. Total 20VP.

edit: removed Hovel trash, as pointed out by faust. We only need 4 cards here, can anyone do anything with the 5th?
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 08:38:14 am »
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I'm sure there should be some way to get an arbitrarily large amount.

I don't think so. I see no way to play any non-starting card except Villa on turn 1 without Mission. Therefore you're limited to buys with at most 8 (?) Coins, which limits the amount of VPs you can get.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 09:55:37 am »
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Baker, Villa, Death Cart, Border Village, Shelters: Alms for Villa, buy Borrow, use Baker coin, play 3C = $6, 1 Buy. Buy Travelling Fair x2, $2, 3 Buys. Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Death Cart gaining 2 Ruins, +2 VP from Labyrinth; $2, 2 Buys. Buy Curse, +2VP from Basilica, +5VP from Defiled Shrine; $2, 1 Buy. Buy Travelling Fair, $0, 2 Buys. Buy Copper. Buy Triumph, gaining Estate, +2VP from Battlefield, trashing Hovel (+1 VP from Tomb), +8VP from Triumph. Total 21VP.
Hovel triggers on buy.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2017, 01:57:22 pm »
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I'm sure there should be some way to get an arbitrarily large amount.

I don't think so. I see no way to play any non-starting card except Villa on turn 1 without Mission. Therefore you're limited to buys with at most 8 (?) Coins, which limits the amount of VPs you can get.

Didn't somebody somewhere empty the supply turn one?  I feel like you could slightly modify it to get some Highways and a Goons with Trader in hand and some Forums to buy.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2017, 04:16:56 pm »
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I'm sure there should be some way to get an arbitrarily large amount.

I don't think so. I see no way to play any non-starting card except Villa on turn 1 without Mission. Therefore you're limited to buys with at most 8 (?) Coins, which limits the amount of VPs you can get.

Didn't somebody somewhere empty the supply turn one?  I feel like you could slightly modify it to get some Highways and a Goons with Trader in hand and some Forums to buy.

That use Mission, which is explicitly banned in this challenge.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 04:23:02 pm »
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Kingdom: Villa, Border Village, Baker, Shelters
Starting Hand: Necropolis and 4 Copper

Alms for Villa.
Play Villa, Buy Borrow, Use Baker coin, Play 4C - $7, 1 Buy - Buy Seaway gaining Villa (+2 VP from Labyrinth).
Play Villa - $3, 2 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
$3, 1 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Villa (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
Play Villa - $4, 2 Buy - Buy Banquet gaining Villa and two Coppers
$1, 1 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Villa (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
Play Villa - $2, 2 Buy - Buy Curse (+4 VP from Defiled Shrine, +2 VP from Basilica), Buy Delve, Buy Triumph gaining Estate (+1 VP from Aqueduct, +2 VP from Battlefield, +14 VP from Triumph)
Total: 28 VP

Edit 1: Refined to use Banquet to gain penultimate Villa.
Edit 2: Refined to use Delve on the last turn.
Edit 3: If Tax is in the game, you won't be able to afford Delve, and so will get 26 VP.
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Re: First Turn VP Chips
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 12:33:46 am »
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Kingdom: Villa, Border Village, Baker, Shelters
Starting Hand: Necropolis and 4 Copper

Alms for Villa.
Play Villa, Buy Borrow, Use Baker coin, Play 4C - $7, 1 Buy - Buy Seaway gaining Villa (+2 VP from Labyrinth).
Play Villa - $3, 2 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Necropolis (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
$3, 1 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Villa (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
Play Villa - $4, 2 Buy - Buy Banquet gaining Villa and two Coppers
$1, 1 Buy - Buy Advance trashing Villa (+1 VP from Tomb) gaining Border Village gaining Villa.
Play Villa - $2, 2 Buy - Buy Curse (+4 VP from Defiled Shrine, +2 VP from Basilica), Buy Delve, Buy Triumph gaining Estate (+1 VP from Aqueduct, +2 VP from Battlefield, +14 VP from Triumph)
Total: 28 VP

Edit 1: Refined to use Banquet to gain penultimate Villa.
Edit 2: Refined to use Delve on the last turn.
Edit 3: If Tax is in the game, you won't be able to afford Delve, and so will get 26 VP.

Great! You exceeded my solution. I didn't think about the fact that Tax would be in the game and messing things up, though.
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