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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2017, 05:04:34 am »

Hello all! Very excited to meet everyone.

Hey :)
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2017, 09:19:49 am »

Hello all! Very excited to meet everyone.

Hey kkrieg! Great to see you in here :-)
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2017, 09:24:14 am »

Thanks guys, was great fun (and a bit of productive I guess ;))
We decided to skype again on Wednesday, just tick all the timeframes where you have time on Wednesday.

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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2017, 09:55:04 am »

Thanks guys, was great fun (and a bit of productive I guess ;))
We decided to skype again on Wednesday, just tick all the timeframes where you have time on Wednesday.

(I was volunteered to make that poll!)

http://doodle.com/poll/5i4yegz4et4mf6p4

The current result seems to be that the 8-10pm UTC window (that's 4-6pm forum time) is winning, though LL hasn't weighed in yet, and he's the one most likely to have to cap it off at the later end.

I am okay with that time
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2017, 10:08:56 am »

Hey Eevee, what's the likelihood of having you join us in Berlin?

Joseph, are you able to join the call on Wednesday? It's 9pm UK time. We've been counting you in for numbers so far, but pretty soon we'll need a firm commitment if we're actually considering making an accommodation booking this week.

Any other takers? :-)
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2017, 10:47:21 am »

I can't/don't want to plan that far ahead, but I don't mind having to book my own accommodations last minute. Definitely a maybe!
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #156 on: March 27, 2017, 06:14:43 am »

silver said he'd ask his dad about implications of booking on Calamitas's behalf, since he's a minor. I'm happy to make the booking, but I'd rather not find myself legally responsible for other people's conduct or anything :-P

No legal responsibility unless explicitly taken (is what my father said).

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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #157 on: March 27, 2017, 06:26:25 am »

silver said he'd ask his dad about implications of booking on Calamitas's behalf, since he's a minor. I'm happy to make the booking, but I'd rather not find myself legally responsible for other people's conduct or anything :-P

No legal responsibility unless explicitly taken (is what my father said).

Great! That's the outcome we wanted :-) Thanks for checking!
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #158 on: March 27, 2017, 06:48:53 am »

Hey Eevee, what's the likelihood of having you join us in Berlin?

Joseph, are you able to join the call on Wednesday? It's 9pm UK time. We've been counting you in for numbers so far, but pretty soon we'll need a firm commitment if we're actually considering making an accommodation booking this week.

Any other takers? :-)
9pm UK time is fine for me. I'm looking through the options Space provided on last page, they all seem fine to me
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #159 on: March 27, 2017, 07:04:03 am »

Hey Eevee, what's the likelihood of having you join us in Berlin?

Joseph, are you able to join the call on Wednesday? It's 9pm UK time. We've been counting you in for numbers so far, but pretty soon we'll need a firm commitment if we're actually considering making an accommodation booking this week.

Any other takers? :-)
9pm UK time is fine for me. I plan to book some accommodation soon.
Has everyone else booked accommodation?

We're looking into booking shared accommodation in the form of an AirBnB, and quite a lot of the call may well end up being about accommodation.

The competing constraints are:
Under 35 euros per person per night.
Accommodation space to include a kitchen and common area for games.
Private double room for the married people.
I'd rather not be forced to share a bed with anyone.
We want a central enough location that it's easy be a tourist during the day and then come back to the shared space for dinner and games in the evening.

The cost factor probably doesn't allow us to be very central while still having private space, so I'm proposing that those of us with employment in financially stable countries might want to pay a little over the odds to help smooth out the cost. I think you fall into that category, though I have no idea of your financial situation...
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #160 on: March 27, 2017, 07:13:40 am »

Me and Anna talked a little about the situation and just so it is written somewhere:

We are okay with the cost up to 30 euro per person, not more. Also, we are perfectly fine to live in some cheap hostel, spend time with you and go to sleep there if that's cheaper. So in that case we need to have a hostel somewhere near you guys (not more than 20 minutes on foot)

If that's not the case we are fine with sharing our room with anyone but obv. having our own bed.
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #161 on: March 27, 2017, 08:03:44 am »

Hey Eevee, what's the likelihood of having you join us in Berlin?

Joseph, are you able to join the call on Wednesday? It's 9pm UK time. We've been counting you in for numbers so far, but pretty soon we'll need a firm commitment if we're actually considering making an accommodation booking this week.

Any other takers? :-)
9pm UK time is fine for me. I plan to book some accommodation soon.
Has everyone else booked accommodation?

We're looking into booking shared accommodation in the form of an AirBnB, and quite a lot of the call may well end up being about accommodation.

The competing constraints are:
Under 35 euros per person per night.
Accommodation space to include a kitchen and common area for games.
Private double room for the married people.
I'd rather not be forced to share a bed with anyone.
We want a central enough location that it's easy be a tourist during the day and then come back to the shared space for dinner and games in the evening.

The cost factor probably doesn't allow us to be very central while still having private space, so I'm proposing that those of us with employment in financially stable countries might want to pay a little over the odds to help smooth out the cost. I think you fall into that category, though I have no idea of your financial situation...
Yh I read your post on last page after posting.
All of these things seem sensible to me, and I do fall under the "those of us with employment in financially stable countries"- I'm fine to pay more.
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #162 on: March 27, 2017, 08:36:14 am »

Me and Anna talked a little about the situation and just so it is written somewhere:

We are okay with the cost up to 30 euro per person, not more. Also, we are perfectly fine to live in some cheap hostel, spend time with you and go to sleep there if that's cheaper. So in that case we need to have a hostel somewhere near you guys (not more than 20 minutes on foot)

If that's not the case we are fine with sharing our room with anyone but obv. having our own bed.

Ah, this is really difficult constraint-balancing game :-P

Let's recognise that there's an implicit cost associated with finding somewhere big enough to host a meet-up where we eat and play mafia and other games together. If we stay in one big place, we're all sharing the cost, according to whatever payment breakdown we agree. If people start moving to sleep in budget places, they're implicitly leaving the "space" cost to those of us paying for an apartment, and we end up getting less common area to play with, probably for more money per person overall. I feel like it wouldn't be unreasonable for silver and Calamitas to prefer a hostel if you two make that move, too, and at that point, we'll have scuppered ourselves with regard to finding a decent social space for us all.

Remember that most airbnbs ban parties, so having 3-6 extra people over every evening might even break the terms. The alternative is to go out to cafes or pubs and socialise there, but that comes with the cost of buying enough food and drink not to get asked to leave.. at which point the 8 euro pppn mark-up on food and drink you might expect from dining out (e.g. paying 10 euros for a dinner we could have cooked for 2 euros) is probably more cost-effective in the accommodation pot :-P

Anyway, I have no problem spreading our meetup costs fairly, by which I mean people who can afford more paying more, but I'm much more comfortable doing that in an open way where we all stay together and some of us just pay more for the same space, because I think overall as a group, we'll gain more from economies of scale that way than if we just ignore the hidden aspects of the costs. I feel like I'm probably taking too many paragraphs to explain what seems like a simple point... there's probably some economicsy term for it!

I've been pretty focused on airbnbs so far, because I think of them as decent travel solutions that are cheaper than hotels. It may be that there are hostel-style places out there that might tick more boxes, though... Has anyone had a look through centralish hostels that offer cheap beds as well as private rooms, that have decent enough self-catering facilities and common areas that will accommodate mafia and board-gaming, and that we can bring a couple of outsiders into? (We've still got to bring faust and maybe Eevee into the equation, too...)
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #163 on: March 27, 2017, 07:54:59 pm »

Okay, so I've looked at hostels. These three are the best I could find that are central-ish, allow for people to pay less than €30 pppn (for a bed in a mixed dorm), have private two-person rooms, and also a kitchen. It's quite hard to gauge how much hanging-out space they may or may not have available for us to use in the evenings, but most of these are big places with tens of other guests wanting to make use of the same space. Maybe we should ask faust if he'd be willing to do a recon for us if anything seems suitable :-P

https://www.heartofgold-hostel.de/
Location looks good, the place seems interestingly-themed, and there's definitely self-catering available. Not sure about how much hanging-out space we'll be able to lay claim to.
Double room with shower @ EUR 77.90 for the room. (Looks like it might be two single beds).
Triple private room @ EUR 33.20 pppn
Mixed dorm beds @ EUR 18.90 - 26.90 pppn

https://www.meininger-hotels.com/
Hotel Berlin Central Station is central and has a guest kitchen.
Double room with shower @ 33.15 pppn
Private triple @ 27.37 pppn
Mixed dorm beds @ 21.08 pppn (no under-18s).

https://www.aletto.de/en/
2 private double/twin rooms (Americans + Calamitas + 1 other) @ EUR 44.89 pppn
4 beds in mixed dorms @ EUR 28.35 pppn (no under-18s).
Hostelworld.com lists this as having self-catering, but I don't see any mention on the EN part of the website, so we'd have to check. It's a big place in general, but all the public areas appear to be bars (beer or snacks and meals) rather than anything useful for self-catering, mafia and boardgames.
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #164 on: March 27, 2017, 08:08:22 pm »

Maybe we should ask faust if he'd be willing to do a recon for us if anything seems suitable :-P
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« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2017, 08:40:05 pm »

All 3 of the hostels, and this AirBnB look good to us!
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #166 on: March 28, 2017, 11:38:20 am »

What are the dates for this? I'd like to book the time off work ASAP
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« Reply #167 on: March 28, 2017, 11:52:30 am »

What are the dates for this? I'd like to book the time off work ASAP
9th - 13th of August
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #168 on: March 29, 2017, 06:00:42 am »

Hey everyone! I'm looking forward to skyping later :-)

The doodle poll implies that we should be able to expect Calamitas, faust, gkrieg, Joseph and me to be around. We're starting at 4pm forum time, which is 8pm UTC/9pm UK/10pm Germany/11pm Moscow. Presumably LL's also in? How about silver? Would it help for people with earlier sleeping times if some of us chatted from half and hour earlier or so?

If anyone can't make it, but wants in on the overall plan and trusts the rest of us to come to a good group consensus and then book on their behalf, please say so here or drop me a PM :-)
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« Reply #169 on: March 29, 2017, 06:04:21 am »

Yeah, I am okay for 11pm, but not too long :)
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« Reply #170 on: March 29, 2017, 06:05:10 am »

My grammar teacher would've killed me for the previous post :)
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« Reply #171 on: March 29, 2017, 06:15:18 am »

I won't be able to make it; I am travelling back to Berlin overnight.

I have not heard back from the place I sent a booking request to.
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« Reply #172 on: March 29, 2017, 08:13:56 am »

I'll be there- I just sent you my Skype username
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #173 on: March 29, 2017, 10:46:51 am »

I have not heard back from the place I sent a booking request to.

Thanks for letting us know! What's your timeframe for checking out one or more of those hostels, if we decide that delegating you as our Scout is the plan? Is there anything in terms of location that you think makes one of them stick out as particularly good or bad?
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Re: f.ds Mafia Meetup?
« Reply #174 on: March 29, 2017, 12:54:48 pm »

I have not heard back from the place I sent a booking request to.

Thanks for letting us know! What's your timeframe for checking out one or more of those hostels, if we decide that delegating you as our Scout is the plan? Is there anything in terms of location that you think makes one of them stick out as particularly good or bad?

Could probably do it on the weekend, depending on how many I should check.

The three hostels are all very central; which one one better really depends on what exactly you would like to do.

The AirBnBs in Köpenick are definitely the worst in terms of location.

In the Skype chat, there were some options discussed in Tempelhof-Schöneberg. This is a bit farther away from the center (not that much though), but it's a nice neighborhood where it should be easy to find a place for food & drinks, and it's cheaper than Mitte.
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