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The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« on: December 10, 2016, 11:36:58 am »
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The Best Cards - Part 1/5

44+ votes for Empires cards, ~59 votes for the rest.



#49 =0 Chancellor (Base) Weighted Average: 5.3% ▼3.2pp / Unweighted Average: 5.5% / Median: 2.1% ▼0.9pp / Standard Deviation: 8.2%

Chancellor stays last since nearly the beginning. It even lost points and its deviation is the lowest of this whole list, so there's no doubt. It was voted last 23 times.
#48 =0 Great Hall (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 8.5% ▼5.6pp / Unweighted Average: 8.8% / Median: 4.8% ▼5.0pp / Standard Deviation: 9.9%

Great Hall lost ranks every year in the past, but stayed second to last this time. It still lost quite a lot in its average and has quite a low deviation. It was voted last 9 times.
#47 =0 Woodcutter (Base) Weighted Average: 11.8% ▼3.6pp / Unweighted Average: 11.7% / Median: 8.3% ▼2.2pp / Standard Deviation: 10.4%

Woodcutter fits into the same scheme, it stays on the same rank and lost in its average. It was voted last 5 times.
#46 =0 Fortune Teller (Cornucopia) Weighted Average: 14.8% ▼1.7pp / Unweighted Average: 15.1% / Median: 10.4% ▼1.5pp / Standard Deviation: 14.5%

And I can only repeat myself. Fortune Teller stays where it was and lost a bit in its average. It has 7 last ranks.
#45 ▼1 Masterpiece (Guilds) Weighted Average: 20.6% ▼3.5pp / Unweighted Average: 22.6% / Median: 16.7% ▼4.7pp / Standard Deviation: 21.2%

Masterpiece is next with a lead of nearly 6pp over Fortune Teller. After losing quite a lot last year, it lost again one more rank. It has quite a high deviation for such a low ranked card. It was voted last twice.
#44 ▼2 Sage (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 23.7% ▼1.9pp / Unweighted Average: 26.9% / Median: 21.4% ▼2.8pp / Standard Deviation: 20.3%

Losing consistently ranks the last years, Sage loses again 2 ranks. It is 3 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking, so newer players overvalue it. It was voted last once.
#43 ▼3 Workshop (Base) Weighted Average: 24.0% ▼3.2pp / Unweighted Average: 24.4% / Median: 20.8% ▼3.0pp / Standard Deviation: 15.9%

After rising 5 ranks last year, Workshop falls back down 3 ranks. In the unweighted ranking it's even one more rank lower. It's at least the first card with no vote on the last rank.
#42 Banquet (Empires) Weighted Average: 24.3% / Unweighted Average: 24.9% / Median: 16.7% / Standard Deviation: 21.6%

Here's the first new card in this list. Banquet has a pretty low median compared to its average and the highest deviation we have seen so far in this list. It was voted last 3 times. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#41 ▲3 Trade Route (Prosperity) Weighted Average: 24.3% ▲3.3pp / Unweighted Average: 26.1% / Median: 22.9% ▲3.8pp / Standard Deviation: 18.6%

Trade Route has a small lead over Banquet of 0.04pp. It's the first card which won ranks, 3 ranks to be exact. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#40 ▼2 Caravan Guard (Adventures) Weighted Average: 25.5% ▼3.8pp / Unweighted Average: 27.5% / Median: 25.0% ▼1.2pp / Standard Deviation: 17.5%

Caravan Guard lost 2 ranks, but is one rank higher in the unweighted ranking.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 11:37:08 am »
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The Best Cards - Part 2/5



#39 ▲3 Develop (Hinterlands) Weighted Average: 28.5% ▲3.6pp / Unweighted Average: 27.0% / Median: 23.9% ▲4.7pp / Standard Deviation: 20.2%

3pp better than Caravan Guard is Develop. It was last in the first edition, but rises consistently, just like last year, it is 3 ranks better. It is still one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#38 ▼1 Tunnel (Hinterlands) Weighted Average: 29.7% ▼3.8pp / Unweighted Average: 36.5% / Median: 33.3% ▼3.1pp / Standard Deviation: 22.2%

Just like in the last years, Tunnel loses again, this time one rank. It is still 3 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking, but was also voted last once.
#37 ▲3 Loan (Prosperity) Weighted Average: 30.3% ▲3.9pp / Unweighted Average: 29.1% / Median: 29.2% ▲5.4pp / Standard Deviation: 18.9%

Loan was better 2 ranks last year, this year 3 more ranks. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking and was voted last once.
#36 ▼5 Storeroom (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 34.9% ▼6.3pp / Unweighted Average: 37.6% / Median: 33.3% ▼11.4pp / Standard Deviation: 18.7%

Storeroom has a lead over Loan of over 4.5pp but is a loser in this list. It lost 5 ranks and over 6pp. But it is still 4 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking.
#35 ▼2 Oasis (Hinterlands) Weighted Average: 34.9% ▼5.2pp / Unweighted Average: 38.4% / Median: 38.1% ▼1.3pp / Standard Deviation: 16.7%

Oasis has a small lead over Storeroom of 0.05pp. Just like last year it lost again 2 ranks and quite a significant amount in its average. It also is still 4 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking.
#34 ▼2 Oracle (Hinterlands) Weighted Average: 36.2% ▼4.3pp / Unweighted Average: 37.4% / Median: 36.4% ▼1.7pp / Standard Deviation: 18.2%

Oracle keeps losing ranks, this year 2 more ranks. It is one rank higher in the unweighted ranking.
#33 ▲2 Smugglers (Seaside) Weighted Average: 36.3% ▼1.0pp / Unweighted Average: 35.2% / Median: 33.3% =0pp / Standard Deviation: 17.2%

And Smugglers keeps on climbing, this year 2 more ranks. It has a small lead over Oracle of 0.04pp. It is 3 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#32 Farmers' Market (Empires) Weighted Average: 36.7% / Unweighted Average: 37.0% / Median: 33.3% / Standard Deviation: 19.3%

Here is the second Empires card. It is 2 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#31 ▲2 Shanty Town (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 38.9% ▼0.1pp / Unweighted Average: 36.0% / Median: 37.5% ▼4.9pp / Standard Deviation: 17.0%

Shanty Town has the same average, but still is 2 ranks higher and keeps on placing higher. It is 4 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 11:37:15 am »
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The Best Cards - Part 3/5



#30 Chariot Race (Empires) Weighted Average: 40.6% / Unweighted Average: 40.5% / Median: 39.6% / Standard Deviation: 17.1%

We're starting part 3 with another new card.
#29 Gladiator (Empires) Weighted Average: 41.1% / Unweighted Average: 41.0% / Median: 35.9% / Standard Deviation: 22.7%

Gladiator is the second new Empires card in a row. It has a really high deviation.
#28 ▼2 Doctor (Guilds) Weighted Average: 42.2% ▼2.2pp / Unweighted Average: 46.0% / Median: 45.3% ▲2.9pp / Standard Deviation: 22.8%

Doctor loses 2 ranks and has a high deviation as well. It is one rank higher in the unweighted list.
#27 Catapult (Empires) Weighted Average: 46.2% / Unweighted Average: 48.4% / Median: 50.0% / Standard Deviation: 25.6%

Catapult is the third new Empires card within 4 cards. It has the highest deviation in this list as it was voted first and last each once. It is 2 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking. It has quite a big lead over Doctor of around 4pp.
#26 =0 Wishing Well (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 47.1% ▲3.0pp / Unweighted Average: 45.5% / Median: 45.8% ▲6.8pp / Standard Deviation: 18.1%

After winning quite a lot of ranks last year, Wishin Well stays the same this year, but is still quite a bit better average wise. It is 2 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#25 ▼2 Expedition (Adventures) Weighted Average: 47.9% ▲0.2pp / Unweighted Average: 49.2% / Median: 50.0% ▲3.7pp / Standard Deviation: 22.3%

Expedition is exactly in the middle in this list but there are still 2 cards with less than 50% to come. It loses 2 ranks but is 2 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking. It has a high deviation.
#24 ▲8 Plan (Adventures) Weighted Average: 48.1% ▲11.1pp / Unweighted Average: 48.8% / Median: 45.8% ▲10.1pp / Standard Deviation: 22.6%

Plan is the winner in this list. It's 8 ranks and over 11pp better. It has a high deviation as well.
#23 ▼6 Guide (Adventures) Weighted Average: 48.9% ▼7.1pp / Unweighted Average: 48.3% / Median: 52.1% ▼5.8pp / Standard Deviation: 20.3%

Guide is the third Adventures card in a row, but quite a loser. It lost 6 ranks and 7pp. It is 3 ranks lower in the unweighted list.
#22 Enchantress (Empires) Weighted Average: 52.7% / Unweighted Average: 52.6% / Median: 52.1% / Standard Deviation: 19.9%

Enchantress is the fourth Empires card in this part and the also the best one in this whole list, the only one beating 50% just barely. It has a lead of nearly 4pp over Guide. It is one rank higher in the unweighted ranking.
#21 ▼1 Market Square (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 56.3% ▲5.0pp / Unweighted Average: 58.3% / Median: 58.3% ▲3.5pp / Standard Deviation: 17.8%

Market Square is slowly losing ranks year after year, this year one more rank, but what's significant is that it won 5pp. It is 3 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 11:37:23 am »
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The Best Cards - Part 4/5



#20 ▲3 Lookout (Seaside) Weighted Average: 56.3% ▲11.3pp / Unweighted Average: 52.2% / Median: 56.3% ▲11.1pp / Standard Deviation: 21.6%

After being better 5 ranks last year, Lookout climbed 3 more ranks, but also over 11pp, this is a lot. It has a small lead over Market Square of 0.02pp. It is 2 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#19 ▼4 Warehouse (Seaside) Weighted Average: 56.4% ▼2.9pp / Unweighted Average: 57.4% / Median: 58.3% ▼3.3pp / Standard Deviation: 17.8%

Warehouse was #6 once, but it continues to lose ranks, this year even 4 ranks. It has a small lead over Lookout as well, only 0.01pp, so those last 3 cards are very close together.
#18 =0 Dungeon (Adventures) Weighted Average: 57.3% ▲3.8pp / Unweighted Average: 56.7% / Median: 58.3% ▼1.2pp / Standard Deviation: 16.9%

Dungeon is better than last year, but still stays on the same rank. It is 2 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#17 =0 Scheme (Hinterlands) Weighted Average: 58.4% ▲4.5pp / Unweighted Average: 62.7% / Median: 64.6% ▲5.1pp  / Standard Deviation: 16.7%

Just like Dungeon, Scheme has quite a bit better average, but still stays on the same rank. It is 3 ranks better in the unweighted ranking, so it is overrated by weaker players.
#16 ▲3 Village (Base) Weighted Average: 61.3% ▲9.6pp / Unweighted Average: 60.6% / Median: 61.7% ▲6.4pp / Standard Deviation: 16.9%

Village is nearly 10pp and 3 ranks better. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#15 ▲6 Bonfire (Adventures) Weighted Average: 63.7% ▲13.3pp / Unweighted Average: 61.1% / Median: 68.8% ▲21.2pp / Standard Deviation: 24.9%

Bonfire is another big winner in this list. It is 6 ranks and over 13pp better. The median is even over 20pp better. It has the second highest deviation in this list however. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#14 ▼3 Watchtower (Prosperity) Weighted Average: 64.5% ▼5.1pp / Unweighted Average: 64.7% / Median: 70.8 ▲0.1pp / Standard Deviation: 23.6%

Watchtower loses 3 ranks and 5pp, but has on the other side even 3 votes on the first rank. That's why it has a high deviation as well. It is voted one rank higher in the unweighted ranking.
#13 =0 Black Market (Promo) Weighted Average: 67.6% ▲1.2pp / Unweighted Average: 62.6% / Median: 69.1% ▲0.8pp / Standard Deviation: 22.6%

After rising a lot of ranks the last 2 years, Black Market's stats didn't change a lot, it has the same rank and around the same average. It is the third card in a row with a high deviation. It is voted 2 ranks lower in the unweighted ranking.
#12 =0 Hermit (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 71.3% ▲1.8pp / Unweighted Average: 70.1% / Median: 72.9% ▲1.5pp / Standard Deviation: 18.1%

Hermit stays also on the same rank and has quite a solid lead of nearly 4pp over Black Market.
#11 ▼1 Amulet (Adventures) Weighted Average: 73.3% ▲2.2pp / Unweighted Average: 72.6% / Median: 75.0% ▲1.2pp / Standard Deviation: 16.4%

Amulet lost one rank, but has a better average.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 11:37:34 am »
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The Best Cards - Part 5/5



#10 ▼3 Forager (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 78.4% ▼1.7pp / Unweighted Average: 77.9% / Median: 79.2% ▼4.1pp / Standard Deviation: 14.3%

Forager has a solid lead over Amulet of over 5pp. It lost 3 ranks and a bit in its average. It was voted first once. It has the lowest deviation since the bottom 3. It is 2 ranks higher in the unweighted ranking.
#9 =0 Menagerie (Cornucopia) Weighted Average: 78.5% ▲0.4pp / Unweighted Average: 76.3% / Median: 79.2% ▼4.1pp / Standard Deviation: 16.1%

Menagerie has a small lead over Forager of 0.07pp. It has the same rank and basically the same average. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#8 ▲6 Gear (Adventures) Weighted Average: 79.6% ▲15.9pp / Unweighted Average: 77.3% / Median: 83.3% ▲14.2pp / Standard Deviation: 17.5%

Gear won 6 ranks and over 15pp and is now in the Top 10. It was voted first once. It is one rank lower in the unweighted ranking.
#7 ▲1 Ferry (Adventures) Weighted Average: 80.6% ▲0.8pp / Unweighted Average: 79.3% / Median: 85.7% ▲2.4pp / Standard Deviation: 20.9%

Ferry climbed one rank and a little bit in its average. It was voted first 4 times.
#6 =0 Swindler (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 82.3% ▲1.3pp / Unweighted Average: 82.9% / Median: 83.3% =0pp / Standard Deviation: 9.9%

Swindler stays consistently over the years. It didn't change in rank and is only slightly better in its average. It is one rank better in the unweighted ranking. It has a pretty low deviation. It was voted first once.
#5 ▼2 Urchin (Dark Ages) Weighted Average: 85.2% ▼1.2pp / Unweighted Average: 80.8% / Median: 88.1% ▲1.3pp / Standard Deviation: 19.1%

After being a big winner last year, Urchin lost 2 ranks again. It is one more rank lower in the unweighted list. It was voted first once.
#4 ▲1 Fishing Village (Seaside) Weighted Average: 87.0% ▲1.7pp / Unweighted Average: 86.9% / Median: 89.6% ▲1.5pp / Standard Deviation: 9.2%

Fishing Village is one rank better and therefore continues to stay in the Top 5. It was voted first 5 times. It has the second lowest deviation in this list. In the unweighted ranking it is one rank higher.
#3 ▲1 Steward (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 88.2% ▲1.9pp / Unweighted Average: 86.7% / Median: 91.7% ▲3.6pp / Standard Deviation: 11.3%

Steward rises one rank and is higher than ever before. It is still one rank lower in the unweighted ranking. It was voted first once.
#2 =0 Masquerade (Intrigue) Weighted Average: 92.8% ▲0.9pp / Unweighted Average: 91.4% / Median: 95.8% ▼1.2pp / Standard Deviation: 9.9%

Masquerade is just like nearly always second again. It has the third lowest deviation in this list. It was voted first 14 times.
#1 =0 Ambassador (Seaside) Weighted Average: 95.5% ▲1.3pp / Unweighted Average: 94.7% / Median: 97.9% ▲0.9pp / Standard Deviation: 13.6%

And Ambassador wins again this list. It was voted first 24 times.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 01:28:52 pm »
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i don't think i bothered to change my ranking for banquet when somebody reminded me it can't gain victory cards
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 03:16:15 pm »
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Banquet is a LITTLE better than that. It's nice for getting fuel for Forager or Spice Merchant or Trade Route or whatever. Opening it to get a Sentry early isn't always absolutely terrible.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 09:18:38 pm »
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Banquet is a pretty bad event. I'm sure I ranked it lower than the list.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 09:43:08 pm »
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I guessed on Banquet's power level since I haven't played with it yet (I have empires but haven't used all the event & landmarks yet), but in my guess I agreed with Chris. It's not that good, but it does get you a $5 card in the first two turns. That can be a major benefit.

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 10:47:22 am »
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Next year's ranking will be hard for Fortune Teller.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 11:45:08 am »
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I ranked Banquet last, although that may have been a bit hyperbolic.  Since then I actually won a game with Banquet.  Turns out Banquet/Gardens is pretty good.

Opening with Banquet is far, far inferior to simply opening 5/2.  Your fiver is almost twice as likely to appear on turn 5, and you will draw it less often for the rest of the game.  I think the best use of Banquet is to commit to a slog.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 01:08:43 pm »
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farmer's market is so wrong. it looks like it sucks but that's only because it costs $3 and has +buy
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2016, 01:14:14 pm »
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After all the catapult hate I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet.

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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2016, 01:54:15 pm »
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Farmer's Market is really good, schadd is right. And whoever voted Tunnel last is a troll.
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2016, 01:58:10 pm »
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After all the catapult hate I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet.
It's way worse than Farmer's Market.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2016, 02:02:15 pm »
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After all the catapult hate I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet.
It's way worse than Farmer's Market.
Thats not true.
It is closer to forager than farmer's market.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2016, 02:04:59 pm »
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After all the catapult hate I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet.
It's way worse than Farmer's Market.
Thats not true.
It is closer to forager than farmer's market.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2016, 02:16:36 pm »
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Workshop is still horribly underrated, even worse than last time. Do most people seriously think that it's worse than Develop or Loan?
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2016, 02:41:29 pm »
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Workshop is still horribly underrated, even worse than last time. Do most people seriously think that it's worse than Develop or Loan?

Yeah, this is beyond me. There are a lot more $3s and $4s worth getting now, especially with all of the cantrips added in the second editions.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2016, 03:10:19 pm »
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Count me as one of the people that ranked Farmers' Market in the bottom ten. Hard to judge a card like this without having played with it. I don't see the appeal of a card that takes two terminal action plays before it becomes a Woodcutter. It looks best when you use it to snipe the VP tokens being collected by the opponent. If you really need the +buy, you have to re-buy it after it trashes itself. I'm sure it's better than Woodcutter, but how many other cards does it beat?

I've made good use of Workshop and variants midturn before reshuffles enough times to put Workshop above the bottom 10.

I may have severely overrated Loan.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2016, 04:16:11 pm »
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Loan is like 30 ranks too low.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2016, 05:30:57 pm »
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Loan is not a top 10 card.  That's absurd.  There are a lot of really good $3 cards.

I'm pleased to see Plan has raised in the ranks.  IMO, it was the biggest misrank in the $3 cards last year.

Can somebody explain why Farmer's Market is good?  I'm in the same camp as Qvist and markusin.  I haven't played with it much, but it hasn't impressed me at all.

Finally, Banquet.  I think this event is underrated.  There are some situations where adding Copper is helpful.  For VP: Fountain, Triumph, and Gardens.  For payload, lategame: with Apothecary, Spice Merchant, Forager, or Bank.  In Slogs: Banquet + Witch seems especially strong.  And sometimes, a $5 card is so important that you'll want it despite the Coppers.  Getting the last Governor, Wharf, or Hunting Party with Banquet will often be worth it.  Getting an early Sentry, Junk Dealer, Witch, or Cultist could be worth it.  With Bonfire and Banquet, you can turn a 3/4 opening into a 5/0, which is sometimes worth it.  With a Watchtower in hand, you can trash Coppers gained with Banquet.  With Trader, you can turn the Coppers into Silver.  Is Banquet + Counting House a thing?  Has anybody simulated it?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2016, 05:41:12 pm »
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Is Banquet + Counting House a thing?
I have played that + forum and i won but i am not really sure without the forum it will work.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition: $3 Cards
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2016, 05:55:38 pm »
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Banquet/Counting House is definitely a thing. According to sim results it beats Gear-BM slightly, and should do pretty well against attack-bm aswell since attacks are pretty bad against it.

There is not much else Banquet has going for it, though
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