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[LastFootnote]

Patrician kind of sucks but people will get that eventually.

The problem with Patrician is that it's a late-game card that costs .  There's zero point in opening with it.  It's nice later in the game when you've actually built up your deck and want a little more consistency, but by that point the Emporia are kind of pointless, if they even ever get revealed at all.

Well probably you'll still open Patrician on a 5/2 if there's nothing better. And likewise if you ever get a $2 hand a bit later, or if you have an extra buy and $2. And sometimes you might prioritize Patricians just to help you get VP from Emporiums later, though I guess time will tell on how practical that is.

[trivialknot]

Based on its absence from #21-30, it looks like Save went up.  Very deserving!

Among the Adventures cards, I think the one that most deserves to go down is Ratcatcher (at 10/33).  Hope to see that in the next part!

[schadd]

native village is a village, you guys

patrician, eh. i'm not convinced it's that bad

Based on its absence from #21-30, it looks like Save went up.  Very deserving!

yeah i have it at 11

[Beyond Awesome]

Settlers is weaker than Patrician, even when the bottom half of the piles are taken into account.

[aladdinstardust]

Based on its absence from #21-30, it looks like Save went up.  Very deserving!

yeah i have it at 11

I bought Adventures on release day, and I don't think I've ever played a game wherein Save was available and I didn't use it. The card is perpetually useful in numerous ways (saving money that you can't spend, making green miss the shuffle, holding one of your colliding terminals, getting Treasure Maps together, getting Prince and a proper 4-cost together, getting any Throne Room variant with the action you want it to multi-play together, and so on and so forth).
I actually ranked it 5, just behind the usual suspects. Maybe I'm biased, but the card does some work.

Settlers is weaker than Patrician

Definitely this. Settlers is more often cantrip+air than anything. Sure, its a 2-cost Peddler when it works, but that relies on not trashing all your Copper (which is hard in the late game) and not shuffling (which is hard in the early game). Patrician, meanwhile, can at least start hitting with some consistency once you've trashed a bit and purchased a fair share of 5s. Unfortunately, Patrician in multiples in a bit non-synergistic.
Both Settlers and Patrician are nifty $2 Labs when they work, but their situational abilities are trickier than they first appear. I would easily put Cellar above both (and did).

Travelling Fair is criminally underrated. Probably has something to do with the double L spelling variant.

[Qvist]

Part 3

[markusin]

The big losers in Part 3 are mostly stop cards with benefits that don't always matter much. Crossroads is sometimes an exception but it's fiddly. These drops feel well deserved, but I haven't compared them to my own ranking yet.

[schadd]

squire is a village, you guys

[LastFootnote]

Man, I sure buy Delve a lot more than I buy Advance, I tell you what.

[LaLight]

Man, I sure buy Delve a lot more than I buy Advance, I tell you what.

I haven't voted for Delve, but it definitely is better than most of the cards higher. Squire, Encampment, Lighthouse, Advance etc.

[trivialknot]

Finally, Ratcatcher has been placed below Raze, correcting one of the most glaring errors in 2015.  My rankings do have many differences with official rankings, but I feel like we should at least agree on the relative strength of cards that fulfill similar functions.

I feel like Encampment is overrated, but it's also a very difficult card.  Once Empires goes online I look forward to seeing better players show us what it can do.

[aku_chi]

I'll join the crowd that thinks Delve is underrated.  I had Delve way up in the single digits above Fool's Gold.  I haven't played with Delve much yet, so I look forward to more playtesting in 2017.

I'm glad to see Alms rise (and with an especially higher weighted rank).  It's a tricky card to evaluate, but I think its still underrated.  See here for the arguments.

It looks like I was correct about Alms, Coin of the Realm, Raze, Save, and Scouting Party all getting a big upward evaluation.  Well deserved.  Borrow also saw a pretty big boost, which seems reasonable; though, I think I rated Travelling Fair a little higher than Borrow.

[Limetime]

Delve = silver = curse
Therefore delve = curse

[GendoIkari]

Man, I sure buy Delve a lot more than I buy Advance, I tell you what.

It seems that the majority of time you buy Advance, you could likely buy Delve+Advance instead.

[LastFootnote]

Man, I sure buy Delve a lot more than I buy Advance, I tell you what.

It seems that the majority of time you buy Advance, you could likely buy Delve+Advance instead.

Strangely, though, I have many more games with either Delve or Advance than I have with both.

[werothegreat]

Encampment has been underrated.  I'd say it's stronger than Hamlet, Coin of the Realm, and Courtyard.

[LibraryAdventurer]

My notable differences:
I had...
Scouting Party at #17
Ratcatcher at #26
and
Encampment at #4

Encampment would be good at $2 even if it was always a one-shot, but get a few golds and/or plunders and decent trashing and it's a lost city without the drawback for $2. I don't understand how it isn't in the top ten.

I also had Advance higher, but I wouldn't put it so high now (My views have already changed in the past month I guess).
EDIT: When I was first looking for notable differences, I didn't notice I also had coin of the realm a bit lower (probably too low, but I still don't think I'd put it in the top ten).

[Chris is me]

Holy shit, you voters haven't a clue how good Advance and Encampment are. None at all.

(Of course at the end of this I'm gonna look at my list and find out that Advance and Encampment are right there too, lol. But seriously, Advance at 18???)

[werothegreat]

Holy shit, you voters haven't a clue how good Advance and Encampment are. None at all.

(Of course at the end of this I'm gonna look at my list and find out that Advance and Encampment are right there too, lol. But seriously, Advance at 18???)

I think we've gone from overrating new cards to underrating them.

[trivialknot]

I'd love to hear why other people think Encampment is good, since I figure most people here are better players than me.  My feeling is that if you buy an Encampment only to lose it the next shuffle, it's like a delayed mini-Expedition.  That sounds pretty bad, and it feels bad in practice too.  It's amazing when you get to keep it, but people seem to be claiming that it's good even before then.

I ranked Advance pretty close to where it sits now.  The thing about Advance is that you can get a $5-cost on your second shuffle by trashing an action.  But generally, you'd rather just play the action to hit $5 naturally.  Of course, with the right cards, Advance can be amazing.  I once got a Rats/Squire/Advance thing going.

[Limetime]

Advance is kinda like rats. It isn't very good most of the time but when it's good its good. There are still a ton of good cards up there so there is no reason to be calling it under rated. They can't all be the best two costs ever.

Encampment at #4

Encampment is not #4. I can name 4 2 cost cards off the top of my head that are defiantly better than it. Stonemason, page, peasant, chapel.

I also am seeing the arguments for borrow being underrated.
Borrow variants of big money are some of the fastest ones so i think borrow should be in top ten. Certainly better than courtyard.

Ratcatcher is also not level 26. It is about as good fools gold.

[LibraryAdventurer]

Encampment at #4

Encampment is not #4. I can name 4 2 cost cards off the top of my head that are defiantly better than it. Stonemason, page, peasant, chapel.

I have Stonemason at #5.
EDIT: Looking at my list, I was mistaken. I actually have Stonemason at #7 behind Courtyard #5 and Fool's Gold #6. I would do that a little differently if I did it today...

Ratcatcher is also not level 26. It is about as good fools gold.

I doubt it.

EDIT: I have Raze at #13.
...Lighthouse #15
Squire #14
Borrow #12
Save #11
Hamlet #10
Alms #9
Advance #8  (I'd put this lower if I did it today, but not as low as #18)

[traces Around]

Yeah, Ratcatcher is nowhere close to Fool's Gold; it's way better.

[faust]

So here the disagreements start.

We should already have seen Fool's Gold. It's not as good as Alms or Emcampment.

Ratcatcher is way overrated. I also don't understand why Qvist calls it a "strong trasher"; it's not. Most other trashers are better. Ratcatcher is still fairly good because it trashes, but with other trashers around, you usually don't want this.

I'm glad to see the cards lose that did lose. Some of them could lose even more.

[Aleimon Thimble]

Yeah, Ratcatcher is nowhere close to Fool's Gold; it's way better.

They are both severely overrated.

Fool's Gold is mainly a BM card and BM boards are getting increasingly uncommon. Unless you have a very reliable engine that overdraws itself, you don't want it in your engine.

Ratcatcher is so so slow. You really cannot afford to draw it any later than turn 3 or it already missed your second shuffle. Chapel on turn 5 is bad, Ratcatcher on turn 4 is MUCH worse since it only trashes one card. To be fair, we didn't see Raze yet so Raze is well above Ratcatcher, as it should be.

Also, I haven't played with Delve yet but I can't imagine rank 20 is any good. At first glance it seems about as strong as the Travellers, definitely top 5 material. But maybe it's not as overwhelming as it looks, I don't know.