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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #600 on: December 17, 2016, 01:52:37 pm »

I'm procrastinating doing some IRL work, so I did post counts for everybody.

Calamitas: 73
Robz888: 57
Eevee: 54
Silverspawn: 50
Witherweaver: 39
mcmcsalot: 35
Pacovf: 33
Gkrieg: 32
Teamlyle: 31
LaLight: 23
SpaceAnenome: 20
J Reggie: 19

And I almost wish I hadn't, because this makes me less enthused about lynching silverspawn. I feel like there's gotta be a scum down there on the lower end. I'm already quite suspicious of those people anyway.

J Reggie, I noticed, had a huge number of pre-game posts, and very few actual game posts. I've always found that scummy.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #601 on: December 17, 2016, 01:53:47 pm »

Are you arguing that teamlyle is likely to be scum?

What do you make of my argument that his alignment will eventually be revealed anyway because of setup considerations?
I'm arguing that teamlyle is not enough less likely to be scum to justify not taking the much reduced drawbacks that are linked to his lynch.
I would maybe put 20% on him being scum.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #602 on: December 17, 2016, 02:05:20 pm »

Are you arguing that teamlyle is likely to be scum?

What do you make of my argument that his alignment will eventually be revealed anyway because of setup considerations?
I'm arguing that teamlyle is not enough less likely to be scum to justify not taking the much reduced drawbacks that are linked to his lynch.
I would maybe put 20% on him being scum.

You are ignoring half my argument there.

I'm procrastinating doing some IRL work, so I did post counts for everybody.

Calamitas: 73
Robz888: 57
Eevee: 54
Silverspawn: 50
Witherweaver: 39
mcmcsalot: 35
Pacovf: 33
Gkrieg: 32
Teamlyle: 31
LaLight: 23
SpaceAnenome: 20
J Reggie: 19

And I almost wish I hadn't, because this makes me less enthused about lynching silverspawn. I feel like there's gotta be a scum down there on the lower end. I'm already quite suspicious of those people anyway.

J Reggie, I noticed, had a huge number of pre-game posts, and very few actual game posts. I've always found that scummy.

I would normally be game to lynch any of the bottom three, but I am a bit wary about new wagons so close to deadline, because it tends to lead to late claims and random lynches. But, again, better that than no lynch.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #603 on: December 17, 2016, 02:11:43 pm »

I would normally be game to lynch any of the bottom three, but I am a bit wary about new wagons so close to deadline, because it tends to lead to late claims and random lynches. But, again, better that than no lynch.

I agree, but we actually aren't super duper close to deadline yet. I suppose we will be soon, and there's very little going on. There are only a handful of active people at this moment, and one them (Calamitas) is monomaniacally focused on something other than scum-hunting.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #604 on: December 17, 2016, 02:12:15 pm »

You know what, let's try this anyway. Vote: J Reggie
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #605 on: December 17, 2016, 02:15:25 pm »

I would normally be game to lynch any of the bottom three, but I am a bit wary about new wagons so close to deadline, because it tends to lead to late claims and random lynches. But, again, better that than no lynch.

I agree, but we actually aren't super duper close to deadline yet. I suppose we will be soon, and there's very little going on. There are only a handful of active people at this moment, and one them (Calamitas) is monomaniacally focused on something other than scum-hunting.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #606 on: December 17, 2016, 02:17:44 pm »

We are closer than it looks, because the deadline is in the middle of the night for Americans, and also because most people tend to be less active during the weekend. I know I won't be available this night, other than a quick vote change before going to bed if necessary.

Keeping my vote on silver unless the activity of the thread suddenly picks up.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #607 on: December 17, 2016, 02:22:04 pm »

I'll be prepared to move back to Silverspawn if need be.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #608 on: December 17, 2016, 02:27:48 pm »

Are you arguing that teamlyle is likely to be scum?

What do you make of my argument that his alignment will eventually be revealed anyway because of setup considerations?
I'm arguing that teamlyle is not enough less likely to be scum to justify not taking the much reduced drawbacks that are linked to his lynch.
I would maybe put 20% on him being scum.

You are ignoring half my argument there.
Well, to actually IC someone here we would need a bunch of information. We would need to know that there is no UB or at least have info about 4 letters
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #609 on: December 17, 2016, 02:29:38 pm »

Well, to actually IC someone here we would need a bunch of information. We would need to know that there is no UB or at least have info about 4 letters

That is going to happen eventually. In my experience, there is always a massclaim late game for 9++ setups.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #610 on: December 17, 2016, 02:32:52 pm »

Vote Count 1.6

Eevee (1): Witherweaver
teamlyle (3): Calamitas, mcmcsalot, silverspawn
silverspawn (5): Eevee, SpaceAnemone, teamlyle, gkrieg13, LaLight
Calamitas (1): J Reggie
J Reggie (1): Robz888

Not Voting (1): pacovf

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 starts now and ends December 18 at 4 am forum time. THat's in 13.5 hours.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #611 on: December 17, 2016, 02:33:55 pm »

Well, to actually IC someone here we would need a bunch of information. We would need to know that there is no UB or at least have info about 4 letters

That is going to happen eventually. In my experience, there is always a massclaim late game for 9++ setups.
But is that info enough to actually find out 4 letters?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #612 on: December 17, 2016, 02:34:08 pm »

Wait I thought I was voting for silver already?

vote: silverspawn

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #613 on: December 17, 2016, 02:35:28 pm »

Well, to actually IC someone here we would need a bunch of information. We would need to know that there is no UB or at least have info about 4 letters

That is going to happen eventually. In my experience, there is always a massclaim late game for 9++ setups.
But is that info enough to actually find out 4 letters?

The absence of a UB guarantees that teamlyle is not lying, unless we have another Restless Spirit or a Governor. Otherwise, we would need information from scum flips.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #614 on: December 17, 2016, 02:37:34 pm »

Actually, I am going to stop telling scum what to fakeclaim.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #615 on: December 17, 2016, 03:35:52 pm »

I'm having a board game night with friends, sort of following along from phone in case of claims or other big things, but not much else for a few hours still.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #616 on: December 17, 2016, 04:04:17 pm »

If you don't want me to play mafia, just say it. I'm sorry for being correct on game theory. You all know that I know what stance is considered scummy and what isn't. eevee, just because someone made a terrible case on you doesn't mean you get town cred. I shouldn't have to say this.

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #617 on: December 17, 2016, 04:10:24 pm »

do whatever you want. but I refuse to take responsibility for this lynch. I've not been lazy, I haven't been lurking, or any other mistake. This is your fault.

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #618 on: December 17, 2016, 04:17:29 pm »

You going to claim, Silverspawn?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #619 on: December 17, 2016, 04:34:57 pm »

do whatever you want. but I refuse to take responsibility for this lynch. I've not been lazy, I haven't been lurking, or any other mistake. This is your fault.

It's more of a case of no one coming out as super scummy, and so much time spent on teamlyle that not enough was left for actual scumhunting. I am not voting for you because you are pushing teamlyle, but if you and Calamitas hadn't, maybe something else might have come up instead.

Besides, I still disagree with the conclusions from you and Calamitas, as I've pointed out before for what I believe to be good reasons. Sorry if this makes you feel like not playing, becaus I definitely enjoy having you around.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #620 on: December 17, 2016, 04:45:57 pm »

intent to hammer

Sorry for being AWOL. Ss please claim. If not I'll hammer you

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #621 on: December 17, 2016, 05:01:51 pm »

Vote Count 1.6

Eevee (1): Witherweaver
teamlyle (3): Calamitas, mcmcsalot, silverspawn
silverspawn (5): Eevee, SpaceAnemone, teamlyle, gkrieg13, LaLight
Calamitas (1): J Reggie
J Reggie (1): Robz888

Not Voting (1): pacovf

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 starts now and ends December 18 at 4 am forum time. THat's in 13.5 hours.

That's an awfully short day  ;)

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #622 on: December 17, 2016, 06:23:25 pm »

Okay, back again now that my party guests have all gone.

I don't feel so good about the silver lynch, TBH :-(

Calamitas is like a broken record a bit.. I'm actually tempted to move my vote to him, in that playing the probabilities to the exclusion of any form of scum-hunting and dominating/derailing the conversation is actually not pro-town when it comes to looking for more alignment stuff on later days. Would there be enough people awake and interested in that for a switch to be a possibility?

Calamitas, if you were to postpone the idea of lynching teamlyle to D2, and trying to go after scum for D1 instead, what does your lynch pool look like? (Yes, I understand the reasons why you feel this is the less informative way round to operate etc etc... I just want to know anyway).
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #623 on: December 17, 2016, 06:25:25 pm »

I'd be fine with a calamitas lynch but ss seems more sensible to me now.

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #624 on: December 17, 2016, 06:26:13 pm »

Okay, back again now that my party guests have all gone.

I don't feel so good about the silver lynch, TBH :-(

Calamitas is like a broken record a bit.. I'm actually tempted to move my vote to him, in that playing the probabilities to the exclusion of any form of scum-hunting and dominating/derailing the conversation is actually not pro-town when it comes to looking for more alignment stuff on later days. Would there be enough people awake and interested in that for a switch to be a possibility?

Calamitas, if you were to postpone the idea of lynching teamlyle to D2, and trying to go after scum for D1 instead, what does your lynch pool look like? (Yes, I understand the reasons why you feel this is the less informative way round to operate etc etc... I just want to know anyway).
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