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[McGarnacle]

Okay, so I've decided to drop my idea of Aliens mafia. Thanks everyone who offered advice and helped (especially LaLight!). The good news is, since it is fall and it is also my favorite dominion expansion, I have a great new idea: Cornucopia Mafia. Here is the setup:

Jester (wants to get himself killed, if he does, he wins)

Scum
Fortune Teller (roleblocker)
Young Witch (goon)

Town
Princess (Nurse)
Horse Trader (Detective)
7 Vanilla Town

Any suggestions/flavor ideas?

[Calamitas]

What do you mean by "nurse"?

[McGarnacle]

What do you mean by "nurse"?

Doctor.

[LaLight]

What do you mean by "nurse"?

I thought it was babysitter http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Babysitter

[LaLight]

the problem with this setup is "Follow the cop" strategy. You need to make on of the goons the Roleblocker or Godfather.

[McGarnacle]

the problem with this setup is "Follow the cop" strategy. You need to make on of the goons the Roleblocker or Godfather.

Got it, fixed.

[gkrieg13]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

[LaLight]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

[faust]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

This.

Also, Jesters are generally bad. It's possible to make make them work (see M66), but it requires work and some people will still be unhappy.

[faust]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

No offense, but you are not exactly a veteran mod either.

[gkrieg13]

I for one would not play another game with a jester

[McGarnacle]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

This.

Also, Jesters are generally bad. It's possible to make make them work (see M66), but it requires work and some people will still be unhappy.

Well, if anyone agrees with Faust, I can change the Jester to the roleblocker and drop the Young Witch.

[McGarnacle]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

No offense, but you are not exactly a veteran mod either.

I've discussed it with LaLight, and I totally trust him to comod with me.

[faust]

Another general suggestion: Do not disucuss setup ideas in forum threads. At some point you might decide that your game is better run as a closed or semi-open setup, and if the discussion already happened for everyone to see, it is too late for that.

[McGarnacle]

Another general suggestion: Do not disucuss setup ideas in forum threads. At some point you might decide that your game is better run as a closed or semi-open setup, and if the discussion already happened for everyone to see, it is too late for that.

So a QT is better?

[mail-mi]

Another general suggestion: Do not disucuss setup ideas in forum threads. At some point you might decide that your game is better run as a closed or semi-open setup, and if the discussion already happened for everyone to see, it is too late for that.

So a QT is better?

Or PMs

[gkrieg13]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

This.

Also, Jesters are generally bad. It's possible to make make them work (see M66), but it requires work and some people will still be unhappy.

Well, if anyone agrees with Faust, I can change the Jester to the roleblocker and drop the Young Witch.

I think you need to comod or at least mod an open or semi open setup that is already designed. Look at mafiascum to find some open setup that is already proven to work. Designing a setup is difficult and I'm not sure you have a good enough grasp on the game yet to design one well.

The great thing about an open setup is that no one can really have too many questions about the setup because everyone can answer them in the thread. I promise there are a lot of things that you don't know about modding yet and would once again say that you should comod with someone that already has a game designed before you jump into designing.

[LaLight]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

No offense, but you are not exactly a veteran mod either.

No offence taken of course. I just think running such an easy setup is, well, easy.

[Roadrunner7671]

I would play a game with alignment changing, that's not something I mind. But I wouldn't play a non-bastard game with a Jester, sorry. 

[faust]

Another general suggestion: Do not disucuss setup ideas in forum threads. At some point you might decide that your game is better run as a closed or semi-open setup, and if the discussion already happened for everyone to see, it is too late for that.

So a QT is better?

It's how I always do it. If you are 100% sure that you want an open game, then a discussion like this can be insightful. But usually it sucks if you laid out you're great idea and then realize you cannot use it anymore in a closed setup because you already spilled the beans. At least, that is the kind of feeling I had when Lost Mafia ended prematurely.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I think that there is too many open mafia games right now so maybe hold off on this until Covert Affairs Mafia is over

[Roadrunner7671]

I think that there is too many open mafia games right now so maybe hold off on this until Covert Affairs Mafia is over

Don't talk about thattttttttttttttttt

[faust]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

No offense, but you are not exactly a veteran mod either.

No offence taken of course. I just think running such an easy setup is, well, easy.

Yeah, I trust you with the execution. Balancing however is actually harder with easier (and especially with open) setups, and for example I don't think the setup proposed above is balanced.

[McGarnacle]

I think that there is too many open mafia games right now so maybe hold off on this until Covert Affairs Mafia is over

Don't talk about thattttttttttttttttt

Somebody hit RR, he's stuck.

[LaLight]

I highly recommend that you comod first before you are a mod. There are things that you can only get from comodding that are easy to overlook your first time if you aren't aware of them.

I will comod him, so it'll be not a problem

No offense, but you are not exactly a veteran mod either.

No offence taken of course. I just think running such an easy setup is, well, easy.

Yeah, I trust you with the execution. Balancing however is actually harder with easier (and especially with open) setups, and for example I don't think the setup proposed above is balanced.

Oh, okay, that's the misunderstanding. I was talking about execution. About balancing: i can try to help, but I would never let the closed setup run if it is approved only by me, of course.