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« on: October 20, 2016, 12:53:12 pm »
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Surprised there isn't already a topic about it.



It looks pretty much like what I was expecting, for the most part, based on speculation from the patents Nintendo filed. A home console that can be undocked and used as a handheld, running on cartridges rather than disks. Nintendo Switch is a decent name, much better than Wii U and better than Wii. And some of the games teased in the trailer look cool - we have a new Splatoon, a new 3D Mario, a new Mario Kart, some kind of Elder Scrolls knockoff and a Basketball game - plus Zelda, of course.

I'll put my detailed thoughts from the trailer below. Just things I spotted and whatnot.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 12:53:45 pm »
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0:26 I see two USB ports on the front, not much else. Probably more at the back, plus other connections.

0:30 The controller layout looks pretty basic. It... has four direction buttons on the left rather than a standard d-pad. I dunno how I feel about that. It also looks in other shots like there's a tiny d-pad in the top right but that might just be a connector of some sort, or the + button. Right side has the analog stick at the bottom, which... ehh, I guess that's more 'normal' by PS/XB standards but I'm used to Wii U layout now. Maybe this is a sign they're going for familiarity for fans of other consoles and thus plan to compete with them more directly again? Or maybe just they found it more comfy.

0:40 Okay it's definitely a + and - 'button' at the top. Not sure how big the screen is exactly but I'd say it looks similar to the N3DSXL screen, judging by the guys hands?

0:42 There's at least two shoulder buttons judging by the action on screen and the right finger position. Probably R/ZR/L/ZL again. Also this means the console can probably play Wii U games - it has two screens and all the same buttons. It would require the screen to be a touch screen though, so... maybe this is wishful thinking?

0:48 (and other points) You can see the logo is just the controller's analogue stick layout, actually. So that's something.

0:55 Cards, pretty small, and they go in the screen unit (which connects to the main unit). Not much else to say about that I guess. Maybe they can also go into the main unit as well?

0:59 I see at least one and possible two buttons on the back, so maybe in addition to two shoulder buttons there's a third button on each side? Maybe a more niche button for some special purpose as it looks smaller?

1:08 Okay this bit is pretty awesome. Suddenly it's a tablet screen, and you can use the controller separately. Also this game looks interesting. Like an Elder Scrolls style first person RPG? I'm not really familar with those sort of games though.

1:11 So you can use the two controller bits separately, it looks like. Interesting. That means both are powered. I'm really seeing where this "Switch" name comes from, that's at least three or four different setups we've seen up to this point (TV + controller, handheld, Tablet like screen + controllers, and implicitly Tablet + controller).

1:23 Looks like a fixed controller, so yet another control scheme option. This one has a d-pad, four central buttons (which makes the theory there were extra buttons on the back seem more likely - we have +, - and two mystery ones now).

1:36 This is interesting. We obviously have Mario Kart, but... is it a new one? It looks very similar to MK8 to me.

1:41 It's not MK8, they have multiple items each. So new MK game confirmed? Also yet another way of playing, each player using one half controller - seems generally uncomfortable to me though.

2:03 It looks like this is demonstrating local connected play, which makes sense to have exist. Also shows another new game, a basketball one.

2:13 A new Mario game as well? Controller looks like the normal controller 'dock' one. Seems like this Mario may be similar to 3D World, but it's hard to tell.

2:47 SPLATOON! Except, this isn't Splatoon (Wii U), the stages look different. So Splat2n launch title looks pretty likely.

2:49 A closer look at the fixed controller. It has a home button, so that's one mystery button solved. The other I can't tell.

~3:00 This is really interesting. It's a big tournament game. Does that mean Nintendo's planning to go more competitive and/or support competitive more heavily? Splatoon was a game that had people begging for Nintendo to provide more competitive support after all, and this really seems to suggest that's something Nintendo is answering. I think this is the most unexpected thing in the whole trailer, to be honest, and it's GREAT.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 02:21:18 pm »
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Mildly exciting stuff, for sure.

I'm guessing no WiiU/Wii/GameCube backwards compatibility, which is pretty disappointing. That little screen sure doesn't look like a touchscreen to me, and I saw nothing in the trailer about using both that screen and a TV simultaneously, nor about motion controls (or pressure-sensitive trigger buttons that would be necessary for GameCube games).
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 02:22:38 pm »
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Mildly exciting stuff, for sure.

I'm guessing no WiiU/Wii/GameCube backwards compatibility, which is pretty disappointing. That little screen sure doesn't look like a touchscreen to me, and I saw nothing in the trailer about using both that screen and a TV simultaneously, nor about motion controls (or pressure-sensitive trigger buttons that would be necessary for GameCube games).

I haven't seen the video yet, but what if they just let you connect a Wii U gamepad to play Wii U games?  They usually try to be one system backwards compatible.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 03:08:35 pm »
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I'm pretty sure that elder scrolls looking game is a ported skyrim.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 04:58:56 pm »
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I assumed backwards compatibility based on the fact that the video shows Wii U games being played...
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 05:15:22 pm »
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I assumed backwards compatibility based on the fact that the video shows Wii U games being played...
There are no Wii U games in the video, at least as far as I can see.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 06:22:56 am »
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That's not the new Zelda game for Wii U in the opening?
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 10:57:24 am »
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That's not the new Zelda game for Wii U in the opening?

The new Zelda could have a simultaneous WiiU/Switch launch, like Twilight Princess on the Gamecube/Wii.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 10:59:57 am »
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That's not the new Zelda game for Wii U in the opening?

The new Zelda could have a simultaneous WiiU/Switch launch, like Twilight Princess on the Gamecube/Wii.

In fact it was confirmed a while ago that it will.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 01:28:14 pm »
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I assumed backwards compatibility based on the fact that the video shows Wii U games being played...
There are no Wii U games in the video, at least as far as I can see.

Splatoon? I guess it could have been a Switch sequel.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 01:53:42 pm »
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Nintendo confirmed that it is not backwards compatible with the Wii U or 3DS.

It's interesting to me how un-gimmicky the gimmick is.  On the 3DS, there are a lot of game mechanics which seem to be there only to highlight the value of 2 screens, or the value of depth perception.  On the Wii U there are game mechanics involving looking down at the gamepad.  But what sort of game mechanic could make use of the fact that you can play at home or on the go?

Hard to imagine a Nintendo console without gimmicks.  Clearly the true gimmicks are yet to be revealed.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2016, 02:30:20 pm »
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Nintendo confirmed that it is not backwards compatible with the Wii U or 3DS.


Dang, this might be enough for me to just go ahead and get a Wii U. Unless it comes out that Zelda on Switch will somehow be way better than the same game on Wii U.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2016, 04:22:24 pm »
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I assumed backwards compatibility based on the fact that the video shows Wii U games being played...
There are no Wii U games in the video, at least as far as I can see.

Splatoon? I guess it could have been a Switch sequel.

It is. The inklings shown in the trailer have hairstyles and clothes not available on the Wii U version, and there are no more updates coming for it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2016, 04:26:13 pm »
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It's interesting to me how un-gimmicky the gimmick is.  On the 3DS, there are a lot of game mechanics which seem to be there only to highlight the value of 2 screens, or the value of depth perception.  On the Wii U there are game mechanics involving looking down at the gamepad.  But what sort of game mechanic could make use of the fact that you can play at home or on the go?

Hard to imagine a Nintendo console without gimmicks.  Clearly the true gimmicks are yet to be revealed.

Well, it's possible that Nintendo is just sick of having so little 3rd-party support. Seems like most companies these days don't want to create games that they'll only be able to sell on one console. The "but it's portable" gimmick seems like it wouldn't be an issue there.

I hope they still support the Wii U awhile; there are so many cool Nintendo games that do make use of the motion controls or the touchscreen, or both. If nothing else, it would be nice for them to step up their Virtual Console releases of NES, SNES, N64, GBA, and DS games.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2016, 04:43:21 pm »
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I assumed backwards compatibility based on the fact that the video shows Wii U games being played...
There are no Wii U games in the video, at least as far as I can see.

Splatoon? I guess it could have been a Switch sequel.

New stages, new clothing, new hairstyles, new weapons/weapon designs, new animations. It's definitely a sequel.
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2016, 11:37:42 am »
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I was hoping nintendo's next gimmick would somehow form a device that feasibly lets me bring a settlers of catan port or betrayal at the house on the hill port to a friends house and just play using virtual pieces.  This doesn't seem like the one... right? Sadness.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 06:12:48 am »
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https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/791455799302246400

We're getting Switch news on January 12th. Interesting that this news drop been announced so far in advance, and that that's so close to launch (only about 2 months before launch).
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2017, 11:45:24 pm »
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Just got it yesterday. I am completely speechless about Zelda Breath of the Wild.
I'm just loving all of it.
All of it.

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2017, 01:15:00 am »
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Just got it yesterday. I am completely speechless about Zelda Breath of the Wild.
I'm just loving all of it.
All of it.

Who else got their Switch and Zelda here?

I'm playing Zelda on Wii U. It has impressed and amazed me multiple times already, and I'm still in the opening area. And I'd watched a bunch of gameplay videos of that area already.
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2017, 01:31:19 am »
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This Zelda could end up being the undisputed best in the series. Can't wait to watch a playthrough and I hope to play it someday.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2017, 07:30:16 am »
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Just had to watch another 30 second un-skippable Nintendo Switch ad.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2017, 11:38:42 am »
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So as previously mentioned, I'm not getting a Switch any time soon. Due to lack of backwards compatibility, we just bought a Wii U a few months ago! So last night we had planned on downloading BotW for Wii U; though it probably wouldn't have finished in time to play it last night. But turns out we either need to get an external hard drive or purchase the physical disc. Only 10 GB free on the Wii U; and Zelda needs like 10.1 or something. Which is sad, because we only have 1 downloaded game on top of the ones that came with the system. But I noticed that Smash takes a huge amount of space even though we have the physical disc for it; the updates are huge.

So anyway, last night we did indeed play Zelda.... The Minish Cap! We just finished Wind Waker HD last week; and this is the next in line. I haven't ever played it before either. Really good so far.

I'm a bit concerned about how much I'll like BotW.... in spite of almost all perfectly positive reviews. The openness and limitless potential of things to do and stuff to collect makes it feel like it might be one of those games that never ends; you just keep playing until you get sick of it. I like games that I can complete; and complete having done 100%. It's unclear right now if BotW will have a concept of "100%"... obviously you can't get every weapon in the game. But perhaps you can still get to a max health and max stamina; can complete all the shrines and dungeons; and assuming that there's items other than the random weapon drops, can get all the upgrades/items.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2017, 12:57:18 pm »
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Well now I kinda really want to get the switch. Unfortunate that it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to get a game console in my current situation. I love Zelda :(
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2017, 05:44:10 pm »
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BotW proves that I have not played many open-world console games. I lack a lot of the skills that you gain in games like GTA or Assassin's Creed (I assume). Proven by my ability to fall off a tower and die, then reload the game and immediately fall off at the exact same point. And it's probably best to not talk too much about my fighting prowess.

Still, it's a great looking game, and I'm enjoying it a lot. There's a lot to do, which is equal parts blessing and curse, but it's a lot of fun.

As we already knew from the preview event, Bomberman is fun (because it's Bomberman, although the 3D perspective in story mode is occasionally jarring) and Snipperclips is adorable and occasionally frustrating.

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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2017, 11:33:56 am »
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I also haven't played many open-world games. So to me it feels like Breath of the Wild combines the best parts of:

• A Zelda game
• Minecraft (minus the building)
• A physics simulator

What I'm doing now (no plot spoilers, but spoilers as to some of the things in the game):

So after the Great Plateau I headed east first, as the game suggests. I'm just west of the Dueling Peaks, in the area fenced off by the Hylia and Squabble rivers. In part of this area, there are bokoblins on horseback. I killed a few and tamed one of the horses. Did you know horses will eat apples out of your hands? Anyway.

I love my horse. But I eventually realized that I can't easily get it from where we are to the road I want to be on. There are rivers on two sides and steep cliffs on the third. The rivers are apparently too deep for the horse to ford. So now I have a self-imposed puzzle: how do I get my horse across one of these rivers? So far I have learned the following:

• Horses will not step onto rafts.
• It only takes two octo-balloons to turn a raft into an "air-raft".
• It's difficult to place octo-balloons on a raft in such a manner as to keep the raft mostly horizontal. You need to use Stasis on the raft to even have a shot at it. (I fell off of mine.)
• An air-raft's sail really catches the wind! Even when it's basically sideways.
• Octo-balloons eventually pop.
• A raft that plummets sideways into a lake capsizes.

• You cannot attach octo-balloons directly to a horse.


This game is amazing.
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2017, 05:59:29 pm »
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I'm a bit concerned about how much I'll like BotW.... in spite of almost all perfectly positive reviews. The openness and limitless potential of things to do and stuff to collect makes it feel like it might be one of those games that never ends; you just keep playing until you get sick of it. I like games that I can complete; and complete having done 100%. It's unclear right now if BotW will have a concept of "100%"... obviously you can't get every weapon in the game. But perhaps you can still get to a max health and max stamina; can complete all the shrines and dungeons; and assuming that there's items other than the random weapon drops, can get all the upgrades/items.

I am also a video game completionist, or at least I was. These days I don't have enough free time to 100% the larger games I play. As a result I've drifted away from the big-ticket JRPGs I used to love, and I've never even tried an American RPG (like Dragon Age or what-have-you). I do still 100% other, smaller games I really love, like Guacamelee and Shovel Knight.

As a recovering completionist, I love Breath of the Wild, even though I know I'll probably never find everything. My advice to you is to create parameters for what you consider 100%. I think finding and completing all the shrines (and getting all their treasure; you can tell on the map if you've found every chest in a shrine) is a totally reasonable goal. I think there 120 such shrines. Finding all the Korok seeds seems less achievable without a guide of some sort; I've heard there are somewhere around 900 of them. I've found 9 shrines and 30 seeds so far, after three evenings of play (maybe about 15 hours).
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2017, 06:01:31 pm »
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Man, speaking of, the one reason I really wish I had a Switch right now is Specter of Torment, the latest Shovel Knight campaign. It was released on the Switch on March 3, and other platforms aren't getting it until April.
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2017, 06:29:04 pm »
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I got the Nintendo Switch. Breath of the Wild is eating up a whole lot of my time right now. It's so great.

I play for hours and barely advance the plot, I always notice something in the distant horizon and decide to explore it. I've wandered into areas I'm not prepared for probably a dozen times. Lots of dying.

Just today I stumbled across a shrine by the seaside cliffs (which are gorgeous). The monsters inside were too tough though. I then flew to an island off the coast and found a shrine that was even harder. I didn't even attempt it. I then sailed out to a further island where a spirit stole all my gear and I died. It was an hour-long adventure into futility. Boy was it fun, though!
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2017, 04:43:06 pm »
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I am really digging this more realistic take on Zelda. And I don't mean "realistic" as in totally devoid of fantasy or as in a perfect representation of real-world physics. But a lot of things make more sense than in previous Zelda games. There's the basic stuff like, you don't find hearts and rupees lying around. If you want to heal, you eat food. If you want money, you either seek out hidden treasure or you sell things. But my favorite example right now is octoroks. In previous 3D Zelda games, when an octorok shot a rock at you, it traveled slowly in a straight line toward you. You could get your shield out and reflect the rock back. In Breath of the Wild, those rocks move realistically, which means octoroks launch them in an arc, and they launch them fast. You better have your shield out or be ready to dodge before they fire that rock.
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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2017, 11:51:12 am »
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I'm watching a couple LPs and the only criticisms/questions I have are: 1) why do all the weapons break so damn fast?/are there weapons that don't break? and 2) are there long maze-like dungeons in this game like previous Zeldas? Or just those little super easy shrines?

EDIT: I'm guessing a weapon that wouldn't break would be the master sword, which was in one of the trailers. So that's something.
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2017, 12:19:02 pm »
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I'm watching a couple LPs and the only criticisms/questions I have are: 1) why do all the weapons break so damn fast?/are there weapons that don't break? and 2) are there long maze-like dungeons in this game like previous Zeldas? Or just those little super easy shrines?

EDIT: I'm guessing a weapon that wouldn't break would be the master sword, which was in one of the trailers. So that's something.

I haven't gotten very far, but:

1. Because you get a ton of weapons. I think it's a refreshing change to have to manage your weapons, with the caveat that I'm very glad you can add more inventory slots as the game progresses. Admittedly it is hard for me to know when to pull out the big guns, especially now that I have stuff like the flame blade, which creates an arc of fire when you swing it.

2. I have read that there are actual large dungeons (I believe four of them?), but that they are not really like dungeons from previous Zelda games. So I guess the answer to your question is, no it's not just the little shrines. Honestly each shrine is like a (monster-less) room or two of a dungeon in a normal Zelda game, so it's not like you're getting cheated out of puzzles.
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2017, 12:48:59 pm »
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Honestly each shrine is like a (monster-less) room or two of a dungeon in a normal Zelda game

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are there weapons that don't break?

I'm not playing it, but I'm pretty sure the Master Sword doesn't break.

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I haven't played any of the actual dungeons yet, but I've seen my brother doing them, and they're ridiculous.
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2017, 03:23:20 pm »
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Still watching BoTW. What has blown me away more than anything is how beautiful the world is. When Link walks into that really snowy part I think in the north, I was just staring at the screen in disbelief. Same with the Gerudo desert and the lost woods. It's just so cool to finally see Link in the this type of world, it fits so well and is so well done.

The dungeons are underwhelming. I think they should've kept some aspects from traditional Zelda dungeons with enemies and puzzles and minibosses. Instead you're just turning things at different angles and seeking out terminals. All the dungeon bosses are pretty much the same and seem to be really easy too. The shrines are ok except for the feats of strength or whatever. Again, they're pretty much all the same. The idea of also making them fast travel locations is great though.

The guy I'm watching seems to be sticking to the main quest, doing shrines, and collecting memories. I want to see more sidequests though. I think the main quest might be the least interesting part of this game, honestly.
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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2017, 11:39:57 pm »
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So, my brother and I decided to play Zelda with him having the left joycon and me having the right joycon.  It's actually worked surprisingly well.  We've been exploring the world so much we're about to get the Master Sword without having completed any Divine Beasts.  We also killed a Guardian with only seven hearts!
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We just bought an external hard drive, which was the first step in actually being able to buy BotW. Next step is beating Phantom Hourglass, which we're almost done with. Might have BotW by this weekend (for Wii U).
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So I have Breath of the Wild now. Won't get to play it until tomorrow, though. I'm trying to figure out the best way to play it in terms of the controls. From what I hear, the Switch Pro Controller is the best option, and although the Wii U Pro Controller is pretty much the same thing; it lacks any motion controls. This means that I have to choose between the comfort of the Pro Controller, and the motion advantages of the Gamepad. From what I hear, certain parts actually require motion controls, so even if you use the Pro Controller, you have to switch to the Gamepad for some parts.

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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2017, 06:26:05 pm »
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So I have Breath of the Wild now. Won't get to play it until tomorrow, though. I'm trying to figure out the best way to play it in terms of the controls. From what I hear, the Switch Pro Controller is the best option, and although the Wii U Pro Controller is pretty much the same thing; it lacks any motion controls. This means that I have to choose between the comfort of the Pro Controller, and the motion advantages of the Gamepad. From what I hear, certain parts actually require motion controls, so even if you use the Pro Controller, you have to switch to the Gamepad for some parts.

Anyone out there playing BotW for Wii U?

I am. After trying both controllers, I'm using the gamepad. The motion controls are extremely useful.
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« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2017, 07:36:22 pm »
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Anyone out there playing BotW for Wii U?
I am, with the gamepad; I have not tried anything else, not knowing that was even an option, but have no complaints there. Well there are a million controls on the gamepad and they use them all and uh there are too many controls on the gamepad. I especially don't like ZL and ZR because sometimes they are pressed when I'm just setting the gamepad down. I don't like that you can push in the knobs, that that's a thing a game can use. Anyway I have nothing relevant to say but yes, I am playing it. It's good times.
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I especially don't like ZL and ZR because sometimes they are pressed when I'm just setting the gamepad down.

This is especially annoying when playing virtual console games; where the ZR button brings up the virtual console menu; thus pausing the game in a way that takes at least a few seconds to un-pause.
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Ok, started it last night. Only got a couple hours in... great so far.

One question for LastFootnote and Donald (and any other Wii U players).... To you have a problem with the flashing "click here to play on the Gamepad screen" on the Gamepad? It was driving me nuts... no option to turn it off either within the Zelda game or in the Wii U system settings. I looked it up, and apparently it's a pretty common complaint. I just don't understand at all what Nintendo was thinking with that one. How did that not bother any of the testers turning development? I suppose it might be worse for me because I play in out theater room, with the lights turned off. But still... how hard is it to have a simple option to turn off the screen? For now, we have covered the screen with Post-it notes to deal with it.
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One question for LastFootnote and Donald (and any other Wii U players).... To you have a problem with the flashing "click here to play on the Gamepad screen" on the Gamepad? It was driving me nuts... no option to turn it off either within the Zelda game or in the Wii U system settings. I looked it up, and apparently it's a pretty common complaint. I just don't understand at all what Nintendo was thinking with that one. How did that not bother any of the testers turning development? I suppose it might be worse for me because I play in out theater room, with the lights turned off. But still... how hard is it to have a simple option to turn off the screen? For now, we have covered the screen with Post-it notes to deal with it.
When I'm playing by myself, I just use the gamepad with the TV off. When the girls are watching, I use the TV, and well the gamepad thing isn't all that annoying. Maybe I notice it a little. I'm guessing they're trying to avoid burning in the image? I don't know if that's still a thing.

It sucks that it's yet another game that doesn't try to get any use out of having two screens. It was a gimmick of the system; no-one wanted to support it because versions on other systems wouldn't have that; now Nintendo doesn't even support it.
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One question for LastFootnote and Donald (and any other Wii U players).... To you have a problem with the flashing "click here to play on the Gamepad screen" on the Gamepad? It was driving me nuts... no option to turn it off either within the Zelda game or in the Wii U system settings. I looked it up, and apparently it's a pretty common complaint. I just don't understand at all what Nintendo was thinking with that one. How did that not bother any of the testers turning development? I suppose it might be worse for me because I play in out theater room, with the lights turned off. But still... how hard is it to have a simple option to turn off the screen? For now, we have covered the screen with Post-it notes to deal with it.
When I'm playing by myself, I just use the gamepad with the TV off. When the girls are watching, I use the TV, and well the gamepad thing isn't all that annoying. Maybe I notice it a little. I'm guessing they're trying to avoid burning in the image? I don't know if that's still a thing.

It sucks that it's yet another game that doesn't try to get any use out of having two screens. It was a gimmick of the system; no-one wanted to support it because versions on other systems wouldn't have that; now Nintendo doesn't even support it.

Yeah a lot of Wii U owners are upset by the lack of dual screen support. The thing is, the game was originally demo'd as a Wii U game, where dual screen support was a part of the game play. Then when it got delayed so much that it was coming to the switch as they took out that functionality so that it would be the same on Switch and Wii U. Because no one would buy a Switch if the Wii U version was better.
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BUMP.

So yeah, ordered a Switch because Mario Maker 2 is coming. It should arrive Friday.

Lucky timing; Nintendo is having a pretty good eShop sale: https://e3.nintendo.com/sale/.

The only bad thing about the timing is that we just bought a Mario+Rabbids cartridge because it was a great deal... just not quite as great as this sudden sale.

We plan to pretty much only get digital downloads; don't want to bother switching out cartridges. Anyway, the list of games we'll be buying right away:

  • Mario Maker 2 - Technically won't have it for a couple weeks after I have the Switch. But getting it with the "2 for $100" deal. Literally the reason we bought a Switch now.
  • Mario+Rabbids
  • Mario Odyssey
  • Smash Ultimate - The other "2 for $100".
  • Cuphead
  • Baba is You
  • Undertale
  • Final Fantasy X+X2
  • Cadence of Hyrule
  • Unravel Two
  • Link's Awakening - Not available for a couple months; but we'll get it when it is.
  • BOTW Sequel - Obviously. Probably more than a year out.
  • Probably the main Labo kit also. Seems like a fun activity to do together.
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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2019, 02:53:37 pm »
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I especially don't like ZL and ZR because sometimes they are pressed when I'm just setting the gamepad down.

This is especially annoying when playing virtual console games; where the ZR button brings up the virtual console menu; thus pausing the game in a way that takes at least a few seconds to un-pause.

2 years later, this is still a huge complaint for me... in almost any game; I've been frequently accidentally hitting ZL or ZR.
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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2019, 03:50:39 pm »
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I especially don't like ZL and ZR because sometimes they are pressed when I'm just setting the gamepad down.

This is especially annoying when playing virtual console games; where the ZR button brings up the virtual console menu; thus pausing the game in a way that takes at least a few seconds to un-pause.

2 years later, this is still a huge complaint for me... in almost any game; I've been frequently accidentally hitting ZL or ZR.

My brother found a way to change the controls and disabled that.  Don't know what he did, though.
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Don't know what he did, though.

I do! He found a way to change the controls and disabled that.
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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2019, 05:31:16 pm »
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BUMP.

So yeah, ordered a Switch because Mario Maker 2 is coming. It should arrive Friday.

Lucky timing; Nintendo is having a pretty good eShop sale: https://e3.nintendo.com/sale/.

The only bad thing about the timing is that we just bought a Mario+Rabbids cartridge because it was a great deal... just not quite as great as this sudden sale.

We plan to pretty much only get digital downloads; don't want to bother switching out cartridges. Anyway, the list of games we'll be buying right away:

With few exceptions, I buy a Switch game physically if 1) it takes up a lot of space, 2) it's single-player, and 3) I'm going to play it once and then not go back to it for a while, if ever. So for your list, this is how I'd split it:

  • Mario Maker 2 (Digital - I'll be going back to it constantly)
  • Mario+Rabbids (Physical)
  • Mario Odyssey (Physical)
  • Smash Ultimate (Digital, it's primarily multiplayer and also I always want access to the music player)
  • Cuphead (Digital, no choice)
  • Baba is You (Digital, small, no choice)
  • Undertale (Digital, small)
  • Final Fantasy X+X2 (Physical)
  • Cadence of Hyrule (Digital, no choice)
  • Unravel Two (Digital, no choice as far as I know)

I don't yet know how large the Link's Awakening download will be. Mostly the decision will come down to where I can get the best deal. And damn I'm willing to wait, since I've already played this game multiple times over the years and they're charging $60 for it. $60! Also Amazon pre-orders are already sold out both on the game and the amiibo.
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2019, 10:32:53 am »
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Anyway, the list of games we'll be buying right away:
Since you're playing with someone else, the other game I recommend is Overcooked 2.
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Anyway, the list of games we'll be buying right away:
Since you're playing with someone else, the other game I recommend is Overcooked 2.

Cool, got it.

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I don't yet know how large the Link's Awakening download will be. Mostly the decision will come down to where I can get the best deal. And damn I'm willing to wait, since I've already played this game multiple times over the years and they're charging $60 for it. $60! Also Amazon pre-orders are already sold out both on the game and the amiibo.

I was surprised by the "full price" for an old game at first, but a friend reminded me that it's not just a port... the remake part of it means it basically would require a full ground-up development; so it's basically a brand new game. Still obviously not the scale of BOTW for the same price though. But it also has this dungeon builder thing...

Anyway, apparently they added Link's Awakening to the list of "voucher" games. So you can get it for $50 if you have an even number of games that you want.

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hey guys, I'm here for advice. I just got money to buy one game of my choice to Switch. I am torn between BotW, Skyrim and Binding of Isaac. Points are:

1) I've never played a single game of Zelda series (except Link to the past very long ago). I love RPGs though.
2) I've never played and Elder Scrolls games (except Morrowind very long ago). Again, I love RPGs and of course I've heard a lot about Skyrim.
3) I played BoI and I love it, so it definitely would be cool, but I play it on my computer, so do I really need it?

Also are there some other really cool options? Maybe two cool games for the price of one Skyrim. I am looking for highly replayable game, as I can't afford a lot of games. Basically the game I will buy now will be with me for 2 months before I can afford another one.

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2019, 09:22:56 am »
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Well I don't know anything about Skyrim or Binding of Isaac. But I can tell you that BotW was the best experience I've ever had playing a video game. I spent over 250 hours playing it through the first time; which is far longer than I've spent on any other game. From the moment I first started playing it, until I was done doing every possible thing you could do in the game, I was hooked.

I don't think it really matters if you are a Zelda fan in general. This game plays nothing like any other Zelda game. Although a lot of the world-building does draw from all of the other games. So there's plenty of places you can find around the world that are references to things you wouldn't get.

I didn't say "my favorite video game of all time" because now that I've fully 100% completed the game, it doesn't make me want to go back and play it again over and over. This is because the best parts were discovering new things, going to places I hadn't been, etc. I did play it a second time to try out the hard mode, and that was a lot of fun too.
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For me an RPG has four things to potentially offer: exploration, building up your guy, combat, and the story.

Skyrim:
- exploration - great. This is what they excel at.
- building up your guy - mediocre. They did way better with Fallout 4.
- combat - bad. Click click. Fallout 4 is again an improvement.
- story - man whatever. There are little nice elements; the broad strokes have no appeal.

BotW:
- exploration - great. A key innovation of this game is the sense of freedom in your environment that you have. There's a mountain; you can climb it and then jump off the top and glide away.
- building up your guy - it's not really an element. You improve in two stats and can slowly collect and upgrade armor. But you know, there's only one path; it's not like "I'll try a thief build."
- combat - great. It's the best combat I've seen in a 3-D RPG.
- story - they try a lot harder than Skyrim does but it didn't suck me in.

I had a lot of fun with both games, and have replayed both. Skyrim was fun to explore again despite the negatives. There's some fun in building up a guy even when the system isn't so great.

BotW though, that's a game that will improve the genre, as people imitate it.
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2019, 04:37:47 pm »
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Got myself BotW. Thanks for the tips!
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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2019, 10:46:56 am »
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Stuff I've been playing... Not a bunch yet because we were still finishing up a game for the Wii U before moving on.

But when I have a chance I've been playing Smash Ultimate, specifically World of Light. It's a fun mode where different battles offer different challenges. And a huge map to explore, with lots of stuff to unlock. I haven't played any other mode at all yet; I'll probably end up unlocking all characters through World of Light. Except the couple that showed up to challenge me when exiting World of Light.

For 2 player stuff, we started Unravel 2. I never played Unravel, though I had seen it. For the most part the puzzles and platforming are very simple. But it has a great atmosphere; and it's really good for 2 players because of the forced cooperation.

Also, I've played Smash for about 22 hours total now... and never once charged my Pro Controller since I originally fully charged it. That's crazy.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2019, 11:01:04 am »
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Anyway, the list of games we'll be buying right away:
Since you're playing with someone else, the other game I recommend is Overcooked 2.

So I got this; played it a couple times with some friends at 4 player and had fun. Last night started 2 player with my wife, with the plan of beating the whole thing.

This is fun and challenging. It's better at 4 player for sure. It can be quite frustrating at times; especially if you get stuck on a level.

Outside of the levels themselves; the game has some weird and confusing things. For one, it takes a VERY long time to start the game from the Switch menu. Far longer than it takes to load other, "bigger" games like Mario Odyssey. There's a bunch of different game modes which I haven't looked at; I only really care about story mode. But the menu is confusing there. Setting your player count seems to require having the right number of controllers connected when you start the software. If you want to add or remove players, as far as I can tell you have to close and re-open the software; which is a pain. And when you have multiple players on one console, all players get the same name on your team; the name of the account that the Switch is running under. That's just super confusing. Then you have options to either "continue" or "load" a game. I guess "continue" just means "load" and automatically load the most recently used save file. Weird though.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2019, 12:16:22 pm »
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Outside of the levels themselves; the game has some weird and confusing things. For one, it takes a VERY long time to start the game from the Switch menu. Far longer than it takes to load other, "bigger" games like Mario Odyssey. There's a bunch of different game modes which I haven't looked at; I only really care about story mode. But the menu is confusing there. Setting your player count seems to require having the right number of controllers connected when you start the software. If you want to add or remove players, as far as I can tell you have to close and re-open the software; which is a pain. And when you have multiple players on one console, all players get the same name on your team; the name of the account that the Switch is running under. That's just super confusing. Then you have options to either "continue" or "load" a game. I guess "continue" just means "load" and automatically load the most recently used save file. Weird though.
"Extras" gets you to DLC (Surf 'n' Turf was fun but quite hard) and also to Seasonal Content, which is some free extra levels that at this point will already be there. The Chinese New Year ones are especially good.

"Continue" is to continue the story mode game you were playing; "load" is to load a different one.

I think you can change the player count by uh tabbing out to the Switch menu, going to change controllers, then go back in. But yes they blew it there.
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