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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2016, 03:13:09 pm »
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I didn't do All Cards (or Landmarks), is there any way I can have all of my lists except those two marked? All Cards takes FOREVER and is very hard, and I just don't get what ranking Landmarks even is.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #126 on: November 20, 2016, 04:12:29 pm »
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Things I've learned from completing these three rankings:

1. Deciding my top X and bottom X cards is fairly easy, but everything in the middle is nigh impossible. I find myself caught in the loop of Card A > Card B > Card C > Card A over and over, and the loops even intertwine to the point that I am utterly baffled as to my own opinion. Nevertheless, I managed to rank them all by what I deem is "best" (most likely to earn you victory in the most possible situations), favorite (the criteria for which is somewhat less focused - something between how much do I enjoy playing this card, how much do I hate losing to this card, how amazing is it when someone actual wins with this card, and a sprinkle of inexplicable bias), and favorite art (a complete shot in the dark).

2. If I were to rank them all again right now, the lists would all look at least slightly different. And I am very happy about that. I enjoy the fact that at any moment, I could play a game of Dominion with a particular card and decide that it is, in fact, much better than I gave it credit for. Then later, I might decide that it really isn't that good after all. This seesaw effect of learning the power levels of particular cards through playing them in various kingdoms is what keeps Dominion at the top of my favorite games list. I have played literally thousands of games, read numerous articles and opinions, and I still feel the excitement of learning the game whenever I approach a new board.

3. Adventures is easily my favorite Dominion set.

4. Claus Stephan is easily my favorite Dominion artist.

I am thoroughly looking forward to the unveiling of the full lists, and would like to applaud Qvist for putting in the time to make this possible every year. This is my first time ranking, but I have enjoyed these lists for some time. Bravo, sir!
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #127 on: November 20, 2016, 04:16:45 pm »
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I didn't do All Cards (or Landmarks), is there any way I can have all of my lists except those two marked? All Cards takes FOREVER and is very hard, and I just don't get what ranking Landmarks even is.

Landmarks: If you did no duels or left the rate field empty, they won't get taken into account. If you did, you can click on the X to delete or delete the values from the rate list.
All cards: It gets counted by default, put together from the individual lists you did. As not a lot do the full list we get a better list this way than not counting them.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #128 on: November 20, 2016, 06:59:27 pm »
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So, the deadline ends now and a quick look in the database shows me that only around a third of all the users that logged in saved their lists.
I wonder if a lot forgot or didn't realise or if just many didn't in fact finish...

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #129 on: November 20, 2016, 07:03:18 pm »
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So, the deadline ends now and a quick look in the database shows me that only around a third of all the users that logged in saved their lists.
I wonder if a lot forgot or didn't realise or if just many didn't in fact finish...

I think it's easy to forget. The new finish system isn't super obvious.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #130 on: November 20, 2016, 07:05:28 pm »
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Yeah I'm a coder not a web designer, not sure how to implement it well.

Edit: I'm going to bed now, decide tomorrow what I'll do about that.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #131 on: November 20, 2016, 07:18:07 pm »
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I finished mine, even though the rankings weren't 100% done. I figured there was enough data in them to contribute something.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2016, 09:10:36 pm »
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I sent in my 'best cards' list by pm, but I did the favorites list on the page. I'm pretty sure I saved it.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #133 on: November 20, 2016, 09:16:30 pm »
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I didn't fully duel out the favorites, but I'm fine with the list as it stands, and I should have registered everything as "complete".
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #134 on: November 20, 2016, 09:25:27 pm »
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Yeah I'm a coder not a web designer, not sure how to implement it well.

Edit: I'm going to bed now, decide tomorrow what I'll do about that.

My thoughts are to PM those who participated in the past who did not hit complete, and I guess if possible try to reach out to those with lists that look complete.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #135 on: November 20, 2016, 11:58:14 pm »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2016, 08:43:05 am »
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For the record, my rankings weren't anywhere near done. I knew about the feature though.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2016, 09:53:28 am »
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My strength/favorite rankings are both fully done, but my art ranking is not, I just couldn't bother anymore. Seriously, who really cares about the art? But I think I managed to click Save for the appropriate lists.

Anyway, looking forward to the results! :)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #138 on: November 21, 2016, 10:09:45 am »
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I think I clicked save...

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #139 on: November 21, 2016, 10:13:34 am »
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I think I clicked 'save' as well.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #140 on: November 21, 2016, 10:19:44 am »
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I think I'm going to live with it.
Not sure when the results are going to be revealed, probably starting next week. Because I still have to do some prep work to get the right results, shame on me, hadn't have the time to do it yet.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #141 on: November 30, 2016, 03:16:23 pm »
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I think I'm going to live with it.
Not sure when the results are going to be revealed, probably starting next week. Because I still have to do some prep work to get the right results, shame on me, hadn't have the time to do it yet.
Any updates on how soon they will come out?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #142 on: November 30, 2016, 04:49:32 pm »
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I'm really sorry, still working on it, really busy at the moment, couldn't plan for it unfortunately.
It's coming guys, don't worry.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #143 on: December 01, 2016, 12:33:11 am »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #144 on: December 01, 2016, 04:56:47 am »
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Yeah, there's still a month left in order to still qualify as the 2016 rankings. :P
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #145 on: December 02, 2016, 02:04:49 pm »
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Working on writing the results right now.
First data: Over 200 users registered for the Best Card List  ;D but only around 60 saved and can be counted  :(
That's way less than last year unfortunately. But the results should still be meaningful enough.
My plan to post a result of around 10 cards every 1-2 days, depending on how busy I am. so it should be finished in around 2 months.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #146 on: December 03, 2016, 09:01:01 pm »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2016, 07:27:43 pm »
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is it a Hot Taek to say that rebuild should not even be a top 10 $5 anymore? adventures' engine buffs already took it out of the top 5 imo, and 2nd edition + especially empires are going to be even worse for it.  it's just such a low-ceiling strategy, whereas something like mountebank fits into the strategies enabled by all the shiny new things. idk

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #148 on: December 07, 2016, 08:17:10 pm »
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is it a Hot Taek to say that rebuild should not even be a top 10 $5 anymore? adventures' engine buffs already took it out of the top 5 imo, and 2nd edition + especially empires are going to be even worse for it.  it's just such a low-ceiling strategy, whereas something like mountebank fits into the strategies enabled by all the shiny new things. idk

I had it at 9, but I could plausibly see it around 13 on my list. I think with Second Edition and Avanto in next time it'll dip below 15 on my list.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #149 on: December 08, 2016, 12:04:06 am »
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I think Rebuild is going to fall a little in the rankings, but it still seems like a top 10 $5 card to me.  Adventures did add plenty of cards that help fuel engines, but it also added some cards that synergize well with Rebuild.  Ferry + Rebuild is almost always the dominant strategy when it appears.  Messenger is one of the best Rebuild support cards if the opponent isn't mirroring: junk them with Estates and trigger strategic reshuffles.  Scouting Party, Dungeon, and Guide let you see your Rebuilds more often.  I have less experience with Empires, but it seems like many of the Landmarks will strengthen Rebuild: Aqueduct, Bandit Fort, Battlefield, Labyrinth, Mountain Pass, Tomb, Wall, Wolf Den.  However, most of the Alt-VP cards in Empires hurt Rebuild, and there are a lot of them.  Time will tell.
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