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Dominion Tier List: 2016
« on: August 31, 2016, 08:56:09 pm »
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Welcome to the Dominion Tier List for 2016! Simply vote on a scale of 0-10 for each card given. You will systematically rate all of the Dominion Cards in this way. All of the ratings given to each individual card will help process where the card will land on the final Tier List.

How will the cards be processed? All of the card's ratings by every user will be averaged to find out the aggregate ranking of the card. Then, the cards will be grouped into Tier lists. It is important to remember that cards that come before or after one another in a specific tier (for example, tier A) are not by definition better or worse than another card, but similar in overall strength. (For example, Mountebank might be on the list of A tier cards before Chapel, but it does not mean Mountebank is better)

There is one rating bar from 0 to 10 per card. Things that should factor into the rating are the cost of the card, overall strength, and how often it is used in a given Kingdom.

An example: Scout will almost never get bought for its overall strength. In addition, Scout will almost never be used in general. However, Scout only costs $4.

Another example: Expand is a card that costs $7 and is very strong, but is not always picked up in a given Kingdom.

Use your discretion when ranking cards. Do not just rate cards 10 or 0 without them having deserved it. Try to moderate your views on a card in order to give it the fairest overall rating possible.

Thank you for voting! Please be patient while each survey comes up! I won't be able to do them all in a day (and neither will you, you busy folk), so I decided to separate them by Expansions. There will also be separate ranking systems for Events, Landmarks and Ruins, as well as different criteria for voting in those phases. Just read the directions on those to be certain.

Many thanks to Deadlock39 for providing the images in this tier list survey! Also, many thanks to Aleimon Thimble for assisting me in processing all of the information. I couldn't have done it without you. Well, I could have. But it would have taken forever and a day.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 08:56:27 pm »
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« Last Edit: August 31, 2016, 09:26:37 pm by Seprix »
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 09:15:35 pm »
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Dominion Base added. Submit your rankings!
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 09:27:27 pm »
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update added: You are now required to give a username. Those who didn't submit one before won't be required to submit one or anything lame. My mistake.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 09:33:22 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 09:39:36 pm »
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Many thanks to Deadlock39 for providing the images in this tier list survey!

i.e. told you about my scans
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 09:46:35 pm »
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Credit to the wiki and all of wero's hard work for sure... I resized them all and have them hosted for my randomizer. That is what he is crediting here.  It was a tiny amount of work with batch editing in GIMP compared to the time I am sure you spent scanning.

(It is difficult to get to the scaled down images on the wiki, which was the reason I did this in the first place.)

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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2016, 10:28:00 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2016, 10:31:21 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2016, 10:31:54 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2016, 10:32:13 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
It feels like we ranked cards recently...
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2016, 10:32:49 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
It feels like we ranked cards recently...

We didn't.

At any rate, this was the thread nobody wanted.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2016, 10:33:44 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
It feels like we ranked cards recently...

We didn't.

At any rate, this was the thread nobody wanted.
I like to rate stuff. I like this thread
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 10:37:49 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
It feels like we ranked cards recently...

We didn't.

At any rate, this was the thread nobody wanted.
I like to rate stuff. I like this thread
what do you rate it
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2016, 10:42:37 pm »
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Cool. 'Dominion Base' means the base cards, right? So I can rank them now and rank Intrigue later? Then Seaside later, then etc?

Yes. But the rankings will continue a long time later on. Right now, Qvist has his rankings going to happen very shortly.
Didn't we already do the 2016 ones?

...we did? I thought those were coming up shortly.
It feels like we ranked cards recently...

We didn't.

At any rate, this was the thread nobody wanted.
I like to rate stuff. I like this thread
what do you rate it
Probably a seven, right next to Council Room and Festival.

I would rate it higher but voting on scales of 1-10 are sort of bad. You have overly critical people and people who think all cards are great because Dominion is great and they never rate anything below a five.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2016, 10:56:00 pm »
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I would rate it higher but voting on scales of 1-10 are sort of bad. You have overly critical people and people who think all cards are great because Dominion is great and they never rate anything below a five.

For anybody who feels a need to respond to this, the discussion has already been had. It does not need to take place again. Please overcome your need and let this thread sit until the appropriate time.

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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2016, 11:00:08 pm »
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I voted. Let's see how this plays out!

Will rankings be revealed after each expansion? I wonder if that influences how cards will be ranked in the future (and not necessarily for the worse) - if people will benchmark future cards against the Base Set averages, maybe? That might not be a bad thing.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2016, 11:03:15 pm »
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I will say figuring out where to rank the cards is hard. I feel a 0-10 scale is rather huge. Anyway, I only feel good giving Chapel 10 and Thief and Adventurer 0. Everything else, I'm not sure about my rankings.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2016, 11:26:59 pm »
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I like that I'm not required to have an MF account to vote.  And although I prefer the complete ordering from a math perspective, the 0-10 score seems simpler from a rater's perspective.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2016, 11:30:30 pm »
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I will say figuring out where to rank the cards is hard. I feel a 0-10 scale is rather huge. Anyway, I only feel good giving Chapel 10 and Thief and Adventurer 0. Everything else, I'm not sure about my rankings.

I propose a new ranking system with only 3 options: 0, 10 and "Depends on the board".
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2016, 12:21:40 am »
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I will say figuring out where to rank the cards is hard. I feel a 0-10 scale is rather huge. Anyway, I only feel good giving Chapel 10 and Thief and Adventurer 0. Everything else, I'm not sure about my rankings.

I propose a new ranking system with only 3 options: 0, 10 and "Depends on the board".

Well, these are tiers, right?  So the tiers should have names.  I propose four tiers: Chapel (good), Village (utilitarian), Adventurer (bad), and Scout.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2016, 12:25:36 am »
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I will say figuring out where to rank the cards is hard. I feel a 0-10 scale is rather huge. Anyway, I only feel good giving Chapel 10 and Thief and Adventurer 0. Everything else, I'm not sure about my rankings.

I propose a new ranking system with only 3 options: 0, 10 and "Depends on the board".

Well, these are tiers, right?  So the tiers should have names.  I propose four tiers: Chapel (good), Village (utilitarian), Adventurer (bad), and Scout.
So we'd have good, utilitarian, bad and out of this world amazing?
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2016, 03:13:50 am »
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We're not 100% sure yet how exactly we will analyze the data, but there will probably be named tiers in the end, we'll just have to establish cut-off points from the scores.

Also, Adventurer and Scout are likely going to be in the same tier.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2016, 07:46:38 am »
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We're not 100% sure yet how exactly we will analyze the data, but there will probably be named tiers in the end, we'll just have to establish cut-off points from the scores.

Also, Adventurer and Scout are likely going to be in the same tier.

I think the simplest thing to do would be to have Tiers 1 through 10. It's a lot of tiers, but it makes sense with the numbers to cut them off at the same points users had to rate them.
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Re: Dominion Tier List: 2016
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2016, 07:53:00 am »
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That would be tier 0-1, 1-2, until 9-10.
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