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[Jacob marley]

So, I got the following kingdom:

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Courtyard, Embargo, Hermit, Masterpiece, Sea Hag, Catacombs, Journeyman, Laboratory, Outpost, Peddler
My opponent opens Sea Hag then I show 2 copper on a 2/5 opening split.  My opponent immediately resigns.  My question is, was 2/5 really such an insurmountable advantage in this kingdom to justify an early resignation?  And how would you play this kingdom?

I would probably open with courtyard/lab into a money deck with a SH and mabye catacombs thrown in.

[Witherweaver]

Wouldn't Journeyman be better to skip over Curses?

I don't see why 5/2 here is good, unless Journeyman money really can power through.. maybe you could Embargo Sea Hag to prevent them from doubling up, or possibly Embargo a power 5 to prevent your opponent from getting it until after Hags, though here you have three drawers.

[JW]

I'm not sure what your opponent was resigning about, 4/3 seems fine. This looks like a board for a Hermit (Madman)-Masterpiece fueled Silver megaturn! Not as impressive as some other megaturns, but gets the job done after several additional turns spent buying mainly Provinces.

Hermit doesn't handle Sea Hag quite as well as it handles other Cursers, but Sea Hag still seems unimpressive against an opponent playing with Hermit. However, Sea Hag is strong against an opponent playing a Courtyard/Catacombs/Journeyman Big Money strategy. Should be a fun, interactive, and Silver-filled game.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure what your opponent was resigning about, 4/3 seems fine. This looks like a board for a Hermit (Madman)-Masterpiece fueled Silver megaturn! Not as impressive as some other megaturns, but gets the job done after several additional turns spent buying mainly Provinces.

Hermit doesn't handle Sea Hag quite as well as it handles other Cursers, but Sea Hag still seems unimpressive against an opponent playing with Hermit. However, Sea Hag is strong against an opponent playing a Courtyard/Catacombs/Journeyman Big Money strategy. Should be a fun, interactive, and Silver-filled game.

Megaturn of one Province?

[Limetime]

I'm not sure what your opponent was resigning about, 4/3 seems fine. This looks like a board for a Hermit (Madman)-Masterpiece fueled Silver megaturn! Not as impressive as some other megaturns, but gets the job done after several additional turns spent buying mainly Provinces.

Hermit doesn't handle Sea Hag quite as well as it handles other Cursers, but Sea Hag still seems unimpressive against an opponent playing with Hermit. However, Sea Hag is strong against an opponent playing a Courtyard/Catacombs/Journeyman Big Money strategy. Should be a fun, interactive, and Silver-filled game.

Megaturn of one Province?

Mega turn that gains 39 silvers so you can province a bunch.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure what your opponent was resigning about, 4/3 seems fine. This looks like a board for a Hermit (Madman)-Masterpiece fueled Silver megaturn! Not as impressive as some other megaturns, but gets the job done after several additional turns spent buying mainly Provinces.

Hermit doesn't handle Sea Hag quite as well as it handles other Cursers, but Sea Hag still seems unimpressive against an opponent playing with Hermit. However, Sea Hag is strong against an opponent playing a Courtyard/Catacombs/Journeyman Big Money strategy. Should be a fun, interactive, and Silver-filled game.

Megaturn of one Province?

Mega turn that gains 39 silvers so you can province a bunch.

Oh, right, but only one each turn with no +buy here.  So you still have the risk of not having the turns available to catch up. 

[Chris is me]

I'd open Journeyman / nothing (maybe Courtyard), get a Hag at some point mostly so you don't lose the split, play Big Money. Nothing about this board screams "big 5/2 advantage", really I would rather get 4/3 and open Hermit / Hag.

[Limetime]

Maybe he was playing at work and his boss came in or something.

[AdrianHealey]

I regularly leave games for no apparent reason for my opponents. I always have reasons, though.

[Dingan]

Yeah I see no huge advantage on 5/2.

What about Hermit/CY (on 5/2), and grabbing nothing but Labs, Peddlers, and Madmen (maybe 1 or 2 Silvers if need be), and ignoring Hag altogether?  If all your opponent is doing is playing Hag every third turn or so, shouldn't Hermit be able to take care of that?  And more importantly, if that's all they're doing, then they're probably building other things pretty slowly.  And then once the Curses are empty or near empty, pull the Madman-Masterpiece megaturn, and green from there.  I just don't see a straight Hag-Silver-Lab thing outpacing that, unless they get a big lead on Provinces, which I don't think I see.

[Beyond Awesome]

I've resigned for various reasons. It may be that something urgent came up for your opponent.

[-Stef-]

There is no need to mention the board to answer your question. Resigning because of opening splits is always silly.

What happens on the shuffle(s) after that is far more important. Opening Mountebank/Chapel may feel great against Silver/Chapel, but if your cards collide while the opponent has a nice trash on turn 3 and buys a Mountebank turn 4, you're most likely behind.

[Haddock]

I've resigned for various reasons. It may be that something urgent came up for your opponent.

This sort of thing has happened to me before but I've always had time for a "whoops g2g".

[ThetaSigma12]

I've resigned for various reasons. It may be that something urgent came up for your opponent.

This sort of thing has happened to me before but I've always had time for a "whoops g2g".

I'd do that except for some reason it won't let me type on my kindle. Really annoying.

[Dingan]

I played this kingdom 6 times against a bot.  Granted it was against a bot, but it seemed like doing something like the following was way better than whatever Silver / double Sea Hag thing they were doing:

- 4/3 open Hermit/Hermit. Not sure on 5/2, maybe Hermit/-
- thin Estates and Curses whilst picking up either Hermit or Silver, turning some Hermits into Madmen. Note: any CYs now are useless
- mid-game, use Madmen to have a big Masterpiece turn, overpaying by 10 to 15ish
- buy nothing but green and pick up CYs with remaining Hermits

I'm not sure how to optimize that w.r.t. how many Hermits to get, when and how many to turn into Madmen vs. when to buy Silvers, how early/late to pull the Madmen trigger, etc.  But it really seemed like some sort of combination of that was pretty reliable.

[Seprix]

I'd rather have 4/3 than 5/2 here.

[Jacob marley]

I've resigned for various reasons. It may be that something urgent came up for your opponent.

This sort of thing has happened to me before but I've always had time for a "whoops g2g".

I'd do that except for some reason it won't let me type on my kindle. Really annoying.

Except that he offered me a rematch immediately.  We played that for about 11 turns till I paused to think about whether to trash to Masquerade, and he resigned again and complained about slow play.  Of course, by then, he was pretty far behind me.