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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #825 on: August 31, 2016, 10:06:01 am »

Not pretending to be unbiased. I totally do have a bias against you that I am trying to get rid of.

You're not helping with me getting rid of it either, by the way.

What information can I give you that you don't already know?

Why the heck were you so anti-town on d1?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #826 on: August 31, 2016, 10:06:07 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #827 on: August 31, 2016, 10:06:44 am »

Not pretending to be unbiased. I totally do have a bias against you that I am trying to get rid of.

You're not helping with me getting rid of it either, by the way.

What information can I give you that you don't already know?

Why the heck were you so anti-town on d1?

I wanted reactions. People reacted.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #828 on: August 31, 2016, 10:07:20 am »

@SS

Do we have a plan in the event that we don't hit the Roleblocker?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #829 on: August 31, 2016, 10:10:41 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #830 on: August 31, 2016, 10:11:52 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.

Potential scum slip indeed...
Not pretending to be unbiased. I totally do have a bias against you that I am trying to get rid of.

You're not helping with me getting rid of it either, by the way.

What information can I give you that you don't already know?

Why the heck were you so anti-town on d1?

I wanted reactions. People reacted.

well alright then.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #831 on: August 31, 2016, 10:13:06 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.

Well, this post is SUPER scummy. We know this because Having Tracker (4), Watcher (4) and 3 bodyguards (1+1+1) (Or only some of these) we know there'll be a RB (from the OP). And you're so scummy that I won't change my vote from RR but I'm watching you.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #832 on: August 31, 2016, 10:13:21 am »

Jesus Christ, it's not a damn scumslip. I already concluded that it was incredibly likely for there to be a Roleblocker.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #833 on: August 31, 2016, 10:13:55 am »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #834 on: August 31, 2016, 10:14:24 am »

Jesus Christ, it's not a damn scumslip. I already concluded that it was incredibly likely for there to be a Roleblocker.

For the first time I actually agree with you and try to believe you're town.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #835 on: August 31, 2016, 10:15:02 am »

@SS

Do we have a plan in the event that we don't hit the Roleblocker?

everyone does what he wants I think

and definitely don't direct the tracker. That just helps scum.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #836 on: August 31, 2016, 10:15:45 am »

There is a Roleblocker scum player, since both Joseph and LaLight have +4 town abilities. There may be some modifiers that negate (such as Silverspawn's delayed Doctor for example), but the claims of 3 Bodyguards almost necessitate 2 to be real, 1 to be false.

Like, I said this a day ago. We all basically agreed on this. So why is the scumslip narrative a thing?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #837 on: August 31, 2016, 10:17:36 am »

that's one of the silliest scumslip arguments I've ever heard.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #838 on: August 31, 2016, 10:19:37 am »

that's one of the silliest scumslip arguments I've ever heard.

Confirmed. For me he just said that he's scum himself
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #839 on: August 31, 2016, 10:19:55 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.

Well, this post is SUPER scummy. We know this because Having Tracker (4), Watcher (4) and 3 bodyguards (1+1+1) (Or only some of these) we know there'll be a RB (from the OP). And you're so scummy that I won't change my vote from RR but I'm watching you.
There are still a bunch of modifiers out there we don't know. And it is incredibly likely that at least 1 bodyguard is fakeclaiming so that we are only at 10. Its not that hard to get to <8 from there if you look at the points associated with the modifiers. But its probably no scumslip just a consequence of us talking for ages about the rb.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #840 on: August 31, 2016, 10:21:30 am »

Now I have to think about how likely it is for scum!Calamitas to bring up that scumslip, based on if he is Goons or Roleblocker or not. Then I have to think about whether or not he even is scum or not.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #841 on: August 31, 2016, 10:21:53 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.

Well, this post is SUPER scummy. We know this because Having Tracker (4), Watcher (4) and 3 bodyguards (1+1+1) (Or only some of these) we know there'll be a RB (from the OP). And you're so scummy that I won't change my vote from RR but I'm watching you.

Why is that post super scummy? I forgot too that we had discussed this earlier today. Calamitas as town or scum has incentive to find evidence of the other bodyguard's scumminess to avoid his lynch/mislynch.

But yeah, actually thinking about it, we did talk about it earlier. I forgot that.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #842 on: August 31, 2016, 10:22:33 am »

No. We do not tell the Tracker what to do. The Tracker is intelligent enough to know what to do, and any directions can be used and abused by scum.

The only issue is that if we don't hit the Roleblocker, the Tracker is effectively useless.
Except random targeting :D
We aren't sure if there is a roleblocker (potential scumslip? ), might be there is just a goon. We only know that rr cannot be a goon (assuming Lalight is the tracker), anyone else might be a goon.

Well, this post is SUPER scummy. We know this because Having Tracker (4), Watcher (4) and 3 bodyguards (1+1+1) (Or only some of these) we know there'll be a RB (from the OP). And you're so scummy that I won't change my vote from RR but I'm watching you.
There are still a bunch of modifiers out there we don't know. And it is incredibly likely that at least 1 bodyguard is fakeclaiming so that we are only at 10. Its not that hard to get to <8 from there if you look at the points associated with the modifiers. But its probably no scumslip just a consequence of us talking for ages about the rb.

We need to be <7 at this point.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #843 on: August 31, 2016, 10:26:24 am »

ok, simple math now:

Watcher was. 4 we have
Tracker is 4 more we have
Calamitas claims BG 1 we have
I know RR is PR. Minimum 1 we have.

So from Calamitas' PoV we have 10 SURELY. And not to have RB it needs to be 6 or less. Can someone count the possibility of such?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #844 on: August 31, 2016, 10:31:50 am »

One more rules question: does 1-shot ninja work automatically or a man must choose if to use it?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #845 on: August 31, 2016, 10:40:02 am »

There still seems to be confusion about how the setup works.

Let me explain (because I clarified it exactly in my QT).

 - Randomize Role
 - Give Role to random player without role
 - Attribute points
 - IF points >= 7 then END
 - Randomize Modifier
 - Give Modifier to random player withou modifier
 - Attribute Points
 - IF points >= 7 OR all players have a role and a modifier then END else REPEAT

END: IF points > 7 make goon -> Roleblocker

Alas, we could easily have scenarios without a roleblocker, e.g. Bodyguard (1) -> Weak (-1) -> Bodyguard (0) -> Random (-3) -> Tracker (1) -> Ascetic (3) -> Watcher (7) -> END

One more rules question: does 1-shot ninja work automatically or a man must choose if to use it?

You must choose to use it.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #846 on: August 31, 2016, 10:41:57 am »

I don't even know if having a RB is > 50%. I could find that out if it's important...

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #847 on: August 31, 2016, 10:50:09 am »

well. confusing all of it. maybe rr is not rb now. well. need to think. pretty sure about calamitas though
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #848 on: August 31, 2016, 10:54:40 am »

I have no weird modifiers on my ability. RR and Calamitas say the same.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #849 on: August 31, 2016, 10:55:57 am »

do we know about modifiers if we have 'em?
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