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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #800 on: August 31, 2016, 05:51:55 am »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #801 on: August 31, 2016, 05:53:01 am »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #802 on: August 31, 2016, 05:59:43 am »

@iguana

My main reason to believe you're scummy was your interaction with Seprix. However, the rest of D1 and D2 have shown me that that was far less scummy than I thought at first. Therefore I wasn't pushing it anymore.
I changed to LaLight because a few posts from him felt forced and just there to strengthen the image of a towny, naive newbie which is/was IMO absolutely scummy. Still feel kind of that way, but some posts from him seem genuine and actually town (e.g. reaction on fakehammer).

But anyway, its obvious that we should lynch among the bodyguards today and I am tending in the rr direction right now. Intending to hammer in about 1-2 hours if nothing significant happens up to then.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #803 on: August 31, 2016, 06:08:18 am »

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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #804 on: August 31, 2016, 06:09:42 am »

There's a problem here.


Everyone wants to lynch Seprix, where at least one person really shouldn't. It's not clear at all which bodyguard is scum, so why would scum bus?

Roadrunner's scrambling is towny enough to convince me that scum is not bussing, and is on the lynch. I'm super suspicious of silverspawn/Seprix right now.

Vote: Seprix
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #805 on: August 31, 2016, 06:10:06 am »

There's a problem here.


Everyone wants to lynch Seprix Roadrunner, where at least one person really shouldn't. It's not clear at all which bodyguard is scum, so why would scum bus?

Roadrunner's scrambling is towny enough to convince me that scum is not bussing, and is on the lynch. I'm super suspicious of silverspawn/Seprix right now.

Vote: Seprix
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #806 on: August 31, 2016, 06:16:05 am »

Yeah I've looked at the situation a bunch of times and I'm convinced this is my best move here. I don't like my odds voting Roadrunner. It feels like a mislynch.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #807 on: August 31, 2016, 06:39:16 am »

It really doesn't feel like that, though. The partner is probably bussing at this point.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #808 on: August 31, 2016, 06:39:39 am »

I'm surprised that you thik RR's flailing is towny. That's like one of the least towny flailings he's ever done.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #809 on: August 31, 2016, 06:56:12 am »

There's a problem here.


Everyone wants to lynch Seprix Roadrunner, where at least one person really shouldn't. It's not clear at all which bodyguard is scum, so why would scum bus?

Roadrunner's scrambling is towny enough to convince me that scum is not bussing, and is on the lynch. I'm super suspicious of silverspawn/Seprix right now.

Vote: Seprix
I assume the scum partner is bussing to not stand out after RR flips as mafia RB. Someone who actively defends RR would clearly be on the radar then. Especially since rr is if he is actual scum doomed in either way. If Seprix would be todays lynch (those two are by now the only targets that make sense) and flip bodyguard, rr is very likely to get lynched tomorrow.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #810 on: August 31, 2016, 08:15:36 am »

With Calamitas and mail-mi, we still get the lynch through

@igu: if you want to sell me on Seprix, give me a better reason than RR's flailing.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #811 on: August 31, 2016, 09:09:12 am »

There's a problem here.


Everyone wants to lynch Seprix, where at least one person really shouldn't. It's not clear at all which bodyguard is scum, so why would scum bus?

Roadrunner's scrambling is towny enough to convince me that scum is not bussing, and is on the lynch. I'm super suspicious of silverspawn/Seprix right now.

Vote: Seprix
I'm with silver here: the flailing looks faked, not townie. However I do think it might be a Seprix/rr scum team (with same claims to distance themselves totally). I agree with what you were saying earlier, that Seprix is playing up his town meta way too much.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #812 on: August 31, 2016, 09:42:28 am »

Suggestion: If we lynch the roleblocker or goon today, both Bodyguards target our tracker

This seems to be one of the rare times where directing PRs is a good idea.

Reason: mafia can now either not kill the tracker, or they confirm that the second scum is also among the bodyguards. with just one Strongman shot, the last mafia can not block both bodyguards.

Of course that only works one way. If the tracker stays alive, then the second scum could still be among the bodyguards.

However, having the tracker alive is super great with just one scum left. If it wasn't for the one-shot Ninja, it'd be akin to a cop. Whoever is targeted with no result when someone dies is cleared.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #813 on: August 31, 2016, 09:45:19 am »

I agree wholeheartedly.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #814 on: August 31, 2016, 09:47:16 am »

Okay, I faked a hammer so that we can get a claim out of RR. Sadly, Gkreig posted, so that couldn't happen, I should have waited until RR was online, Bad timing. However, his actions were incredibly contrived. I think we can hammer RR.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #815 on: August 31, 2016, 09:47:38 am »

Now someone finish the job, since Iguana chickened out and thinks I'm scum for some dumb reason.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #816 on: August 31, 2016, 09:49:06 am »

Now someone finish the job, since Iguana chickened out and thinks I'm scum for some dumb reason.

Could you, like, respond to that reason with why it's dumb?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #817 on: August 31, 2016, 09:49:47 am »

Suggestion: If we lynch the roleblocker or goon today, both Bodyguards target our tracker

This seems to be one of the rare times where directing PRs is a good idea.

Reason: mafia can now either not kill the tracker, or they confirm that the second scum is also among the bodyguards. with just one Strongman shot, the last mafia can not block both bodyguards.

Of course that only works one way. If the tracker stays alive, then the second scum could still be among the bodyguards.

However, having the tracker alive is super great with just one scum left. If it wasn't for the one-shot Ninja, it'd be akin to a cop. Whoever is targeted with no result when someone dies is cleared.

I like this suggestion. But reading on roles, first: I don't see a strongman that makes you towny (doesn't it?) and even if it was, strongman kills no matter how much bodyguards I have
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #818 on: August 31, 2016, 09:53:49 am »

Now someone finish the job, since Iguana chickened out and thinks I'm scum for some dumb reason.

Could you, like, respond to that reason with why it's dumb?

Because it's dumb. Why would I claim Bodyguard when two other people did it ahead of me, unless it was true? But wait. Shocker. You think I'm so clever, that I would count on that. You've made up your mind already. You've been voting me all day. Don't even pretend to be unbiased.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #819 on: August 31, 2016, 09:54:07 am »

Well, strongman might break through only one layer of protection, instead of all layers.

That's a good question to ask gkreig, actually. Does the Strongman break through one layer of all layers of protection?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #820 on: August 31, 2016, 09:57:15 am »

Now someone finish the job, since Iguana chickened out and thinks I'm scum for some dumb reason.

Could you, like, respond to that reason with why it's dumb?

Because it's dumb. Why would I claim Bodyguard when two other people did it ahead of me, unless it was true? But wait. Shocker. You think I'm so clever, that I would count on that. You've made up your mind already. You've been voting me all day. Don't even pretend to be unbiased.

Not pretending to be unbiased. I totally do have a bias against you that I am trying to get rid of.

You're not helping with me getting rid of it either, by the way.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #821 on: August 31, 2016, 09:57:58 am »

Strongman breaks through one layer of protection
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #822 on: August 31, 2016, 10:02:58 am »

Not pretending to be unbiased. I totally do have a bias against you that I am trying to get rid of.

You're not helping with me getting rid of it either, by the way.

What information can I give you that you don't already know?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #823 on: August 31, 2016, 10:04:41 am »

Suggestion: If we lynch the roleblocker or goon today, both Bodyguards target our tracker

This seems to be one of the rare times where directing PRs is a good idea.

Reason: mafia can now either not kill the tracker, or they confirm that the second scum is also among the bodyguards. with just one Strongman shot, the last mafia can not block both bodyguards.

Of course that only works one way. If the tracker stays alive, then the second scum could still be among the bodyguards.

However, having the tracker alive is super great with just one scum left. If it wasn't for the one-shot Ninja, it'd be akin to a cop. Whoever is targeted with no result when someone dies is cleared.
Agreeing totally. The question is whether we should give our tracker a target. I am against it since mafia would know when to trigger the ninja. Therefore I would be going with unknown/random tracking.

What should I do if we don't kill a mafia member but an actual bodyguard? I would say still targeting tracker to force mafia to use the strongman shoy.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #824 on: August 31, 2016, 10:05:40 am »

Strongman breaks through one layer of protection
Which layer is on top? The more recent or the older one?
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