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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #750 on: August 30, 2016, 10:38:50 am »

And here's something to think about too, Mail: What about Calamitas? Just because I've been blatantly unhelpful doesn't mean I am scum. Maybe I feel like playing an Awaclusian game.

Calamitas' reaction was genuine and townie, and as a newbie scum he'd be inclined to say something else. Not so with you.

If you are town, thanks a lot for feeling like that .
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #751 on: August 30, 2016, 03:29:21 pm »

This game would be funny if all three bodyguards are legit and we're in the 5% or w/e bowl.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #752 on: August 30, 2016, 03:41:17 pm »

Let's do a little old fashioned voting analysis

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Vote Count 1.2


silverspawn (1): LaLight
iguanaiguana (3): SpaceAnemone, RoadRunner7671, Calamitas
Calamitas (3): Seprix, silverspawn, iguanaiguana
Seprix (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Joseph2302

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at noon on Thursday, August 25

Roadrunner and Calamitas on me. Seprix on fellow bodyguard Calamitas.

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Vote Count 1.3


iguanaiguana (2): SpaceAnemone, Calamitas
Calamitas (2): silverspawn, iguanaiguana
Seprix (2): mail-mi, LaLight

Not Voting (3): Joseph2302, Seprix, RoadRunner7671

Calamitas still on me, Roadrunner and Seprix not voting.

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Vote Count 1.4


iguanaiguana (1): Calamitas
Calamitas (1): iguanaiguana
Seprix (3): mail-mi, LaLight, Joseph
Joseph2302 (2): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone

Not Voting (2): Seprix, RoadRunner7671

Same, but note how town!Joseph joins the Seprix wagon.

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Vote Count 1.5

iguanaiguana (2): Calamitas, Seprix
Seprix (2): LaLight, Joseph
Joseph2302 (2): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone
RoadRunner7671 (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): iguanaiguana, RoadRunner7671

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at noon on Thursday, August 25, less than 24 hours left

Seprix goes after me. Roadrunner still doesn't vote.

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Vote Count 1.6


iguanaiguana (1): Seprix
Seprix (4): LaLight, Joseph, mail-mi, Calamitas {L-1}
Joseph2302 (3): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone, iguanaiguana

Not Voting (1): RoadRunner7671

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at noon on Thursday, August 25, less than 18 hours left


Calamitas moves to Seprix. Seprix is still on me. Roadrunner still not voting.

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Vote Count 1.final

LaLight (1): Calamitas
Seprix (2): Joseph, mail-mi
Joseph2302 (5): iguanaiguana, silverspawn, LaLight, SpaceAnemone, Seprix

Not Voting (1): RoadRunner7671

Calamitas moves to LaLight. Seprix hammers Joseph. Roadrunner still not voting.

Questions for Seprix

Why did you vote for me all day on D1? What did you find scummy about me? Why did you move to hammer Joseph? Who, if anyone, do you think is scum on the wagon that was on you for much of D1?

Questions for Roadrunner

Why didn't you vote all day? Who are your scumreads?

Questions for Calamitas

Why did you scumread me most of D1? What happened to that scumread now? Why did you switch to LaLight at the end of the day?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #753 on: August 30, 2016, 03:53:30 pm »



I'm at risk of seeming like I'm only interested in tunnelling Iguana here. I also think Seprix's suspicion-list is also valid, and would generally like to hear more from those players, especially if we take it that Seprix's general play style tends to run people the wrong way in terms of scumminess.

Town!Space's reads included heavy scum on me and heavy town on Seprix. He also stayed on the Joseph mislynch almost all day. Hard to see a reason for scum!Seprix to shoot him...
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #754 on: August 30, 2016, 04:03:19 pm »

I just don't vote as much as I should. I haven't had many strong scum reads so I've just sort of sat around. I guess Seprix is my top scum read simply because he's crazy enough to WIFOM claim the third bodyguard
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #755 on: August 30, 2016, 04:08:42 pm »



I'm at risk of seeming like I'm only interested in tunnelling Iguana here. I also think Seprix's suspicion-list is also valid, and would generally like to hear more from those players, especially if we take it that Seprix's general play style tends to run people the wrong way in terms of scumminess.

Town!Space's reads included heavy scum on me and heavy town on Seprix. He also stayed on the Joseph mislynch almost all day. Hard to see a reason for scum!Seprix to shoot him...

WIFOM? But that is another good point...
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #756 on: August 30, 2016, 04:23:20 pm »



I'm at risk of seeming like I'm only interested in tunnelling Iguana here. I also think Seprix's suspicion-list is also valid, and would generally like to hear more from those players, especially if we take it that Seprix's general play style tends to run people the wrong way in terms of scumminess.

Town!Space's reads included heavy scum on me and heavy town on Seprix. He also stayed on the Joseph mislynch almost all day. Hard to see a reason for scum!Seprix to shoot him...

WIFOM? But that is another good point...

Sure but is scum expecting me to dig up that quote?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #757 on: August 30, 2016, 04:25:20 pm »



I'm at risk of seeming like I'm only interested in tunnelling Iguana here. I also think Seprix's suspicion-list is also valid, and would generally like to hear more from those players, especially if we take it that Seprix's general play style tends to run people the wrong way in terms of scumminess.

Town!Space's reads included heavy scum on me and heavy town on Seprix. He also stayed on the Joseph mislynch almost all day. Hard to see a reason for scum!Seprix to shoot him...

WIFOM? But that is another good point...

Sure but is scum expecting me to dig up that quote?

Also PR hunting. But no. I'm going to reread tonight and see. I'm becoming more and more convinced that I'm wrong though.  Or that maybe they're scum together, Seprix and RR.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #758 on: August 30, 2016, 04:30:15 pm »

I have suspicion but I think revealing it would be detrimental

imaginary vote: hidden player

Did silver ever explain this?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #759 on: August 30, 2016, 04:47:50 pm »

I have suspicion but I think revealing it would be detrimental

imaginary vote: hidden player

Did silver ever explain this?

I think so. the suspicion was on Joseph and I wanted to see how he reacted before telling anyone.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #760 on: August 30, 2016, 08:37:48 pm »

So one thing that interests and concerns me in my reread is that all three of Seprix, Roadrunner and Calamitas found me scummy D1, and none of them really pushed me at all today.

Why is that, yall?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #761 on: August 30, 2016, 09:09:35 pm »

Coming just back from an exhausting day in Porto, will post tomorrow when I have read all the new posts. Good night.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #762 on: August 30, 2016, 09:09:45 pm »


Vote: Seprix
I sort of feel like if Seprix was on a team with a newbie he'd figure he would have to fake claim a PR but he wouldn't want to because he'd be worried that he would mess it up, so he's just refusing to claim.

Does that make sense?

This post feels like Roadrunner could be talking about his own feelings and then just saying "Seprix" instead of "Roadrunner."
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #763 on: August 30, 2016, 09:16:40 pm »

Yeah, I guess I like lynching Roadrunner best. It's tough between Calamitas/Roadrunner but I think Calamitas has a handful of really towny posts that I don't think he faked as scum.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #764 on: August 30, 2016, 09:17:47 pm »

Oh wow. No time to sleep I guess.

I am a Bodyguard. You probably shouldn't lynch me
vote:roadrunner!!!!!

This reaction is pretty townie so that's one of them.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #765 on: August 30, 2016, 09:19:39 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Might be the case but not sure which kind of steganography he might have used.

I thought steganography was explicitly forbidden, but I can't find a reference for that just now.

With a jpeg image like the most recent one he posted, if you can find a library that gives you access to the DCT coefficients, you can analyse the statistics of them as a way of looking for steganographoic tampering, since conceptually that's the easiest place to bury information. But I'm guessing it would be a big waste of time in this instance because Silver is just flat-out messing with us. Steganography is neat, though :-)
Steganography is not limited to pictures, everu breadcrump is some kind of steganography. Actually, the picture version was the reason I asked about the exact limitations of posting pictures ;-)
But since media you create (and manipulate for integration information) is forbidden, there is no reason to look for sth.  like that.

I don't think scum!Calamitas wastes his time musing about whether there is a hidden message in silverspawn's Spirited Away jpegs.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #766 on: August 30, 2016, 09:21:36 pm »

the hidden message is that I like Spirited Away ♥

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #767 on: August 30, 2016, 09:24:25 pm »

honestly though, that's not alignment indicative [referring to Calamitas posting about it]

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #768 on: August 30, 2016, 09:27:56 pm »

My Calamitas reread comes to the conclusion that he is a lot townier than what I thought yesterday. Not even sure why I was scumreading him yesterday

Vote: Roadrunner

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #769 on: August 30, 2016, 09:35:07 pm »

Man, I have no time to reread at all. I am getting more convinced by roadrunner case. I'll jump on it if it needs a lynch, but I still think seprix is super scummy. (Can't take off my tunnel vision goggles I guess).
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #770 on: August 30, 2016, 09:36:38 pm »

Man, I have no time to reread at all. I am getting more convinced by roadrunner case. I'll jump on it if it needs a lynch, but I still think seprix is super scummy. (Can't take off my tunnel vision goggles I guess).

He always is though. Did I tell you already about the time that he claimed lovers with scum D1 with no information to protect them from getting lynched? He was town, and not the scum's lover.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #771 on: August 30, 2016, 09:54:38 pm »

Man, I have no time to reread at all. I am getting more convinced by roadrunner case. I'll jump on it if it needs a lynch, but I still think seprix is super scummy. (Can't take off my tunnel vision goggles I guess).

He always is though. Did I tell you already about the time that he claimed lovers with scum D1 with no information to protect them from getting lynched? He was town, and not the scum's lover.
No. No you didn't.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #772 on: August 30, 2016, 10:11:11 pm »

Man, I have no time to reread at all. I am getting more convinced by roadrunner case. I'll jump on it if it needs a lynch, but I still think seprix is super scummy. (Can't take off my tunnel vision goggles I guess).

He always is though. Did I tell you already about the time that he claimed lovers with scum D1 with no information to protect them from getting lynched? He was town, and not the scum's lover.
No. No you didn't.

The argument for Seprix being scum this game is that he is intentionally making 'mistakes' in order to imitate his meta of making mistakes and weird rash decisions, and that the sheer number of sloppy and misinformed things he's said this game is too staggering for him to be actual town saying all of it.

By no means should you believe that he's scum because of scummy play. If anything, he's scum because he's imitated his town meta to the extreme.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #773 on: August 30, 2016, 10:14:14 pm »

My Calamitas reread comes to the conclusion that he is a lot townier than what I thought yesterday. Not even sure why I was scumreading him yesterday

Vote: Roadrunner

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #774 on: August 30, 2016, 10:16:31 pm »

Yup. Silverspawn, RR, Iguana, and LaLight are voting for RR. That is a lynch.

RR, were you town?
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