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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #575 on: August 28, 2016, 01:43:22 pm »

Agreeing with road and seprix. Massclaiming seems absolutely ridiculous, vote: silverspawn

Maybe i don't understand smth. Why is it a bad idea?
Scum will fakeclaim, town PRs will potentially claim their true roles and will be taken out of the game by mafia in the night.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #576 on: August 28, 2016, 01:46:57 pm »

It's not a towny reaction anymore after I've already explained why it's good.

The only drawback is that scum can target PR's. Scum will have exactly one more NK before we are at LyLo where we would masslcaim anyway. I think we can all live with that (although not literally ^;^)

I'm already looking forward to the analysis.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #577 on: August 28, 2016, 02:15:05 pm »

I am not opposed to a massclaim, though I'm not sure yet if it's a good idea.

agree with RR that seprix's "townslip" was faked. keeping my vote on seprix. Also he just immediately flipped from "MASSCLAIM IS THE WORST!!!" to "okay I'll bite."



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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #578 on: August 28, 2016, 02:16:20 pm »

Agreeing with road and seprix. Massclaiming seems absolutely ridiculous, vote: silverspawn

Maybe i don't understand smth. Why is it a bad idea?
Scum will fakeclaim, town PRs will potentially claim their true roles and will be taken out of the game by mafia in the night.

Actually... thinking more about this, I'm starting to be opposed to massclaim. Because of hidden modifiers, we can't solve the set up. We can have anywhere from like 2-5 PRs or something.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #579 on: August 28, 2016, 02:27:41 pm »

Agreeing with road and seprix. Massclaiming seems absolutely ridiculous, vote: silverspawn

Maybe i don't understand smth. Why is it a bad idea?
Scum will fakeclaim, town PRs will potentially claim their true roles and will be taken out of the game by mafia in the night.

Actually... thinking more about this, I'm starting to be opposed to massclaim. Because of hidden modifiers, we can't solve the set up. We can have anywhere from like 2-5 PRs or something.

I know that. benefits still outweight the drawbacks I think. The drawbacks are pretty small.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #580 on: August 28, 2016, 02:29:04 pm »

Agreeing with road and seprix. Massclaiming seems absolutely ridiculous, vote: silverspawn

Maybe i don't understand smth. Why is it a bad idea?
Scum will fakeclaim, town PRs will potentially claim their true roles and will be taken out of the game by mafia in the night.

Actually... thinking more about this, I'm starting to be opposed to massclaim. Because of hidden modifiers, we can't solve the set up. We can have anywhere from like 2-5 PRs or something.

I know that. benefits still outweight the drawbacks I think. The drawbacks are pretty small.

Scum having their choice of nightkill? I'm not sure. I'll do it if everyone else thinks it's a good idea, but I think it would be more beneficial to wait til tomorrow.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #581 on: August 28, 2016, 02:30:19 pm »

I don't want to talk too much about the benefits

let's just say there's usually alignment indicative stuff we get

and lynching scum TODAY is really important I think.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #582 on: August 28, 2016, 03:22:03 pm »

But even if we massclaim, I am certainly not agreeint with laLight beeing at the bottom. He is quite on top of my scumlist and shouldn't be allowed to create the order just because silver made him to. Anyway, I am still skeptical whether we should do the massclaiming, especially since given fakeclaims are a possibility (correct me if they aren't or quite unlikely). If they aren't the setup system might leave us with very helpful info.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #583 on: August 28, 2016, 04:03:03 pm »

There's pretty much no chance that fakeclaims aren't available
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #584 on: August 28, 2016, 04:41:47 pm »

There's pretty much no chance that fakeclaims aren't available
Exactly, and I would assume they are created in a way that doesn't allow us to find scum directly via applying logic. If that assumption is correct, we won't get that much closer to a correct lynch which is, in that point I'm agreeing with silver, very important today. I think PRs and our current reads are by far our best shot at hitting scum either today or tomorrow. Claiming wouldn't help (correct me if i'm wrong about that) us for the latter but weakens our PRs significantly (relevant for D3).
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #585 on: August 28, 2016, 07:06:52 pm »

well, guys.

I think I screwed up a little. maybe. Fact is, RR isn't completely clear. That's all I can to say. I know that he didn't kill, that's true, but as I figured out, scum don't always kill, can make more things. So, RR didn't kill anyone, that's all I know
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #586 on: August 28, 2016, 07:48:53 pm »

Yes, yes, scum has fake claims. There is going to be informatoin betweeen 'nothing' and 'we caught scum'.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #587 on: August 28, 2016, 08:02:17 pm »

Yes, yes, scum has fake claims. There is going to be informatoin betweeen 'nothing' and 'we caught scum'.
Yeah, but to what price? Since our watcher (+4) is gone there aren't probably too many strong town PRs left. Anyway, I still don't like iguanas play until now and it is not good that all attention has driven away from him.
vote: iguana
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #588 on: August 28, 2016, 08:07:43 pm »

frustrating that after the pivot we still haven't caught scum.

Okay. How about a massclaim?

It's DAY TWO!!!!!!! What you propose is much more useful for scum, especially since scum will simply have alibis!

vote: Silverspawn

You're scum with LaLight, but I don't know the third member yet.
How certain are you in the case of silver and lalight
(From 0=wild guess to 10=confirmed scum)?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #589 on: August 28, 2016, 08:20:04 pm »

We don't have enough time to stay indesicive for that long.

so we're 9 people. I think everyone should vote for or against massclaim. If we get 5+ votes, we do it, otherwise we don't.

/for massclaim

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #590 on: August 28, 2016, 08:28:32 pm »

/againsy mass claiming
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #591 on: August 28, 2016, 08:33:30 pm »

We don't have enough time to stay indesicive for that long.

so we're 9 people. I think everyone should vote for or against massclaim. If we get 5+ votes, we do it, otherwise we don't.

/for massclaim

We're actually 7 people, so 4+.

/not sure yet. Will vote later after time to think.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #592 on: August 28, 2016, 08:38:23 pm »

We're actually 7 people, so 4+.

uhh yes. that.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #593 on: August 28, 2016, 10:49:48 pm »

Vote Count 2.1

silverspawn (1): Seprix
Seprix (2): LaLight, RoadRunner7671
iguanaiguana (1): Calamitas

Not Voting (3): mail-mi, iguanaiguana, silverspawn


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 2 ends at noon on Sunday, September 4
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #594 on: August 29, 2016, 01:11:29 am »

talking about PRs, could he be Framed?

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #595 on: August 29, 2016, 01:23:19 am »

and ok. Well. I have a kind of theory and if I'm right, we have some good chances.

Cards on the table: I'm Tracker, I tracked RR and he targeted Silverspawn. Here we have some choices.

1) He can be townie power role whom I substituted now, but then we have an advantage with two PR as me and him.
2) More likely: SpaceAnemone was Watcher, I'm the Tracker, we have 8 points here, so RR can be Roleblocker and choose Silverspawn to roleblock (because SilverSpawn is veteran and dangerous!). Then he said nothing and his reaction to my first words (saying I confirmed he is townie) seems to me scummy.

Tell me if i'm right in my thoughts.

Vote: RoadRunner
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #596 on: August 29, 2016, 01:26:40 am »

and one more:

I'm ready to be killed, but if my death brings us one scum, it's a good one, because scum is in fact 1-shot ninja and I'm not very of help here. I think that the second scum is either Calamitas or Mail-mi and having RR as scum we have SS as confirmed town so we're about to win I think.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #597 on: August 29, 2016, 02:42:44 am »

No!!! This is why we needed to mass claim with you at the end!

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #598 on: August 29, 2016, 02:46:09 am »

okay let's see what RR responds before I Say more.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #599 on: August 29, 2016, 02:57:25 am »

No!!! This is why we needed to mass claim with you at the end!
Reading people's responses I doubt there could be massclaim.
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