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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #225 on: August 22, 2016, 06:30:23 am »

Also, SS is acting weird. Not sure if it's town weird or scum weird yet.

I don't know why town!SS gets any credit for acting dumb, but scum!SS does dumb stuff and says he never does it as scum, so there's that argument. SS is just generally being unhelpful, which is odd, since he usually is, even as a scum player.

He's playing the longer meta-game (which he seems quite successful at) to the detriment of a small game he's not very engaged with. People like RR find his analyses valuable, so he may get an effective free-ish pass here for D1. I'm really not a fan of this level of disengagement, though!
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2016, 07:05:29 am »

I reject those accusations. I play to win this game.

I've almost solved it. Just give me a little bit more-- well, not time so much as content.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #227 on: August 22, 2016, 07:17:35 am »

ok, I've reread the whole thread again and now I'm beginning to think on Seprix. There's two reasons:
1) His accusation on Calamitas and so-called scum slip. I don't know about Quicktopic much and if the bold font is really a proof of scumness, but the words of other people convinced me that it isn't. Still, Seprix took the possibility to eliminate the man. Which, at this point, proves that if Seprix is scum, Calamitas is not (but not vice versa)
2) His vote on Iguana to make L-1. It was really quiet and he could think that if Iguana would be lynched, we will accuse a man who had voted last and Seprix still would have been clear.

Of course it can be not so and just two mistakes of Seprix, but I find it suspicious.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #228 on: August 22, 2016, 08:07:29 am »

I reject those accusations. I play to win this game.

I've almost solved it. Just give me a little bit more-- well, not time so much as content.

Dislike. Solving for your own personal enjoyment is less sporting than opening the game up for everyone else's satisfaction too.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #229 on: August 22, 2016, 08:57:10 am »

I reject those accusations. I play to win this game.

I've almost solved it. Just give me a little bit more-- well, not time so much as content.

Dislike. Solving for your own personal enjoyment is less sporting than opening the game up for everyone else's satisfaction too.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #230 on: August 22, 2016, 10:16:47 am »

I reject those accusations. I play to win this game.

I've almost solved it. Just give me a little bit more-- well, not time so much as content.

Dislike. Solving for your own personal enjoyment is less sporting than opening the game up for everyone else's satisfaction too.


Is posting pictures allowed?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #231 on: August 22, 2016, 10:17:32 am »

ok, I've reread the whole thread again and now I'm beginning to think on Seprix. There's two reasons:
1) His accusation on Calamitas and so-called scum slip. I don't know about Quicktopic much and if the bold font is really a proof of scumness, but the words of other people convinced me that it isn't. Still, Seprix took the possibility to eliminate the man. Which, at this point, proves that if Seprix is scum, Calamitas is not (but not vice versa)
2) His vote on Iguana to make L-1. It was really quiet and he could think that if Iguana would be lynched, we will accuse a man who had voted last and Seprix still would have been clear.

Of course it can be not so and just two mistakes of Seprix, but I find it suspicious.

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1. That's a false dichotomy. Firstly, Calamitas could have made that mistake as scum. Secondly, just because I pointed it out doesn't make me scum. This is an awful case.

2. Okay, assume Iguana gets lynched. What happens next? Oh, yeah. I'd be on the chopping block anyways for putting Iguana to a lynch unannounced. It was just a careless error on my part. I didn't think that many people were voting for Iguana.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #232 on: August 22, 2016, 10:24:40 am »

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Is posting pictures allowed?

Yes. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #233 on: August 22, 2016, 10:28:49 am »

S
Is posting pictures allowed?

Yes. Sorry to disappoint you.
You certainly don't disappoint me.
Just wondered where the border between "personal media" and other pictures is. Are screenshots allowed then?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #234 on: August 22, 2016, 10:54:21 am »

S
Is posting pictures allowed?

Yes. Sorry to disappoint you.
You certainly don't disappoint me.
Just wondered where the border between "personal media" and other pictures is. Are screenshots allowed then?

no media you create
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #235 on: August 22, 2016, 10:55:32 am »

S
Is posting pictures allowed?

Yes. Sorry to disappoint you.
You certainly don't disappoint me.
Just wondered where the border between "personal media" and other pictures is. Are screenshots allowed then?

no media you create
Okay, makes sense.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #236 on: August 22, 2016, 12:00:18 pm »

Vote Count 1.3


iguanaiguana (2): SpaceAnemone, Calamitas
Calamitas (2): silverspawn, iguanaiguana
Seprix (2): mail-mi, LaLight

Not Voting (3): Joseph2302, Seprix, RoadRunner7671


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at noon on Thursday, August 25

p. s. I feel like I should count this vote, but it would probably just count as an unvote.  But for future reference, it doesn't mater what you put before the vote: playername if it is in bold.  Obviously unless it is "un", as I know someone will make that joke.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #237 on: August 22, 2016, 12:19:11 pm »

Imaginary unvote: Vote Un: hidden player: vote player un
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #238 on: August 22, 2016, 12:21:36 pm »

Imaginary unvote: Vote Un: hidden player: vote player un

Thank you.  Now there is no confusion.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #239 on: August 22, 2016, 12:22:38 pm »

Imaginary unvote: Vote Un: hidden player: vote player un
Could you please elaborate on the reasons behind your unvoting ;-)
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #240 on: August 22, 2016, 12:25:47 pm »

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Is posting pictures allowed?

Yes. Sorry to disappoint you.
You certainly don't disappoint me.
Just wondered where the border between "personal media" and other pictures is. Are screenshots allowed then?

no media you create
I take credit for creating this rule
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #241 on: August 22, 2016, 12:51:49 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #242 on: August 22, 2016, 12:52:58 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Absolutely not. There is a 0% chance of breadcrumbing D1, and as we can all see they're not helpful
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #243 on: August 22, 2016, 12:53:19 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Might be the case but not sure which kind of steganography he might have used.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #244 on: August 22, 2016, 12:57:10 pm »

I was eating, I'll try to elaborate on that a bit more.

Breadcrumbing: If he had a N0 action and found scum, he'd say it immediately. If he found a PR, he probably wouldn't breadcrumb on D1, seeing as he doesn't get lynched D1.

Imaginary votes: These aren't helpful at all, but I've never seen anything similar. But we can tell they're not forwarding the game.

Colored fonts: No. These aren't breadcrumbing and they're not helpful. They're just off putting.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #245 on: August 22, 2016, 12:59:59 pm »

Also, someone said that when someone dies only their alignment is revealed. This is not the case in forum mafia. In forum mafia it would look like this:

Roadrunner, the Mafia JOAT,has been lynched!

Roadrunner, the Loud Copwas killed in the night!

Roadrunner, a Vanilla Townie has been lynched!
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #246 on: August 22, 2016, 01:06:47 pm »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #247 on: August 22, 2016, 01:13:48 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Might be the case but not sure which kind of steganography he might have used.

I thought steganography was explicitly forbidden, but I can't find a reference for that just now.

With a jpeg image like the most recent one he posted, if you can find a library that gives you access to the DCT coefficients, you can analyse the statistics of them as a way of looking for steganographoic tampering, since conceptually that's the easiest place to bury information. But I'm guessing it would be a big waste of time in this instance because Silver is just flat-out messing with us. Steganography is neat, though :-)
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #248 on: August 22, 2016, 01:15:44 pm »

Also, someone said that when someone dies only their alignment is revealed. This is not the case in forum mafia. In forum mafia it would look like this:

Roadrunner, the Mafia JOAT,has been lynched!

Roadrunner, the Loud Copwas killed in the night!

Roadrunner, a Vanilla Townie has been lynched!

My bad! Thanks for the correction :-)
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #249 on: August 22, 2016, 01:29:45 pm »

gah. Those smileys. My townread on you is dwindling.
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