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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #250 on: August 22, 2016, 01:41:01 pm »

FYI: Seprix has put me at an unnanounced L-1.

I imagine because he is a good and careful player, who always does a good job of things.
Seprix, please try & play a game where you don't do something scummy.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #251 on: August 22, 2016, 01:44:17 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Absolutely not. There is a 0% chance of breadcrumbing D1, and as we can all see they're not helpful
Agree, ss is being unhelpful by not providing anything.
Which is a shame, because we needs active posters in this game, and I thought he might be one.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #252 on: August 22, 2016, 01:45:39 pm »

request prod on Joseph
Prod not needed.
I was barely over the 24 anyways.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #253 on: August 22, 2016, 01:47:29 pm »

Vote: Seprix because L-1 is scummy, and easily leads to mislynches. Especially with lots of new(ish) players.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #254 on: August 22, 2016, 01:49:42 pm »

I take credit for creating this rule

Okay, is there any chance Silver's coloured fonts or pictures or imaginary votes are breadcrummy or helpful or anything other than a bizarre set of distractions to lead us away from useful game-play?
Might be the case but not sure which kind of steganography he might have used.

I thought steganography was explicitly forbidden, but I can't find a reference for that just now.

With a jpeg image like the most recent one he posted, if you can find a library that gives you access to the DCT coefficients, you can analyse the statistics of them as a way of looking for steganographoic tampering, since conceptually that's the easiest place to bury information. But I'm guessing it would be a big waste of time in this instance because Silver is just flat-out messing with us. Steganography is neat, though :-)
Steganography is not limited to pictures, everu breadcrump is some kind of steganography. Actually, the picture version was the reason I asked about the exact limitations of posting pictures ;-)
But since media you create (and manipulate for integration information) is forbidden, there is no reason to look for sth.  like that.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #255 on: August 22, 2016, 01:54:14 pm »

FYI: Seprix has put me at an unnanounced L-1.

I imagine because he is a good and careful player, who always does a good job of things.
Seprix, please try & play a game where you don't do something scummy.

This from you. But besides that, why don't you tell me how not to play a scummy game. I'll take it into consideration.

Vote: Seprix because L-1 is scummy, and easily leads to mislynches. Especially with lots of new(ish) players.

This is a bad vote, and you know it.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #256 on: August 22, 2016, 02:05:54 pm »

This is a bad vote, and you know it.

I agree.

But this is a good vote.

I'd vote for Joseph now but I'm curious what the next vote count will look like vote: Joseph
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #257 on: August 22, 2016, 02:46:16 pm »

FYI: Seprix has put me at an unnanounced L-1.

I imagine because he is a good and careful player, who always does a good job of things.
Seprix, please try & play a game where you don't do something scummy.

This from you. But besides that, why don't you tell me how not to play a scummy game. I'll take it into consideration.
See the last mafia game we were in- I played towny all game, even though I was scum.

Vote: Seprix because L-1 is scummy, and easily leads to mislynches. Especially with lots of new(ish) players.

This is a bad vote, and you know it.
Pretty sure it isn't.
Voting for anti-town person is good.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #258 on: August 22, 2016, 02:48:24 pm »

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #259 on: August 22, 2016, 03:01:26 pm »

vote: Joseph

Your play is unbelievably bad.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #260 on: August 22, 2016, 03:12:03 pm »

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #261 on: August 22, 2016, 03:31:02 pm »

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #262 on: August 22, 2016, 03:45:05 pm »

Not sure what to make of all this. Seprix L-1 vote was surely strange, especially since the most recent Vote count was only 11 posts before his vote. IMO there are two possible explanations for that behavior:

1. (And far more likely): He just made a mistake, could be the case with either alignment. Therefore I wouldn't rate that as particular scummy (nor towny) since it is surely drawing attention towards him which is not helpful in either case.

2. (Don't know if it fits to Seprix previous behavior): He actually wanted to draw attention away from iguana. As you can see, two unvoted right after his vote and attention moved towards a Joseph-Seprix "bad-play" claim feast. Obviously that would only make sense if iguana and seprix form the mafia (or I am missing sth.). Haven't looked up the thread for previous hints in that direction, will do so later.

For now, my vote will remain on iguana since the previous arguments that convinced me to do so are still valid.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #263 on: August 22, 2016, 04:08:00 pm »

What a bunch of confirmation bias.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #264 on: August 22, 2016, 04:08:42 pm »

Not sure what to make of all this. Seprix L-1 vote was surely strange, especially since the most recent Vote count was only 11 posts before his vote. IMO there are two possible explanations for that behavior:

1. (And far more likely): He just made a mistake, could be the case with either alignment. Therefore I wouldn't rate that as particular scummy (nor towny) since it is surely drawing attention towards him which is not helpful in either case.

2. (Don't know if it fits to Seprix previous behavior): He actually wanted to draw attention away from iguana. As you can see, two unvoted right after his vote and attention moved towards a Joseph-Seprix "bad-play" claim feast. Obviously that would only make sense if iguana and seprix form the mafia (or I am missing sth.). Haven't looked up the thread for previous hints in that direction, will do so later.

For now, my vote will remain on iguana since the previous arguments that convinced me to do so are still valid.

Interesting idea, that I could be distracting from Iguana. That's a deepish move, one I am not capable of.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #265 on: August 22, 2016, 04:22:03 pm »

Seprix has not been scummy and the votes on him are bad. Once again, he does things like this as town all the time. I have not played a game where he was scum, but I would expect him to actually be more careful when he has more information to work with. His blunders are an indication that he is town. Read any of his games.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #266 on: August 22, 2016, 04:27:18 pm »

Seprix has not been scummy and the votes on him are bad. Once again, he does things like this as town all the time. I have not played a game where he was scum, but I would expect him to actually be more careful when he has more information to work with. His blunders are an indication that he is town. Read any of his games.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #267 on: August 22, 2016, 04:30:31 pm »

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.

+1

FWIW, I am becoming more comfortable with my vote on seprix.

Scum is probably among this group. It's all just empty agreement and sheeping. Scum loves to see this kind of case and reaction.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #268 on: August 22, 2016, 04:32:12 pm »

Joseph played like an emotionless Awaclus-bot last time, and he ended up being scum. However, that might just also be his new 'style', so I could count it out, at least for now. So unvote, but I'd be fine with a Joseph lynch. I think we lynch among these three people today:

Joseph
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #269 on: August 22, 2016, 04:42:11 pm »

Joseph played like an emotionless Awaclus-bot last time, and he ended up being scum. However, that might just also be his new 'style', so I could count it out, at least for now. So unvote, but I'd be fine with a Joseph lynch. I think we lynch among these three people today:

Joseph
Mail-mi
LaLight

In other words, what you're saying is

"Oh my gosh, everyone who suspects me, you all suck."
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #270 on: August 22, 2016, 04:50:59 pm »

Joseph played like an emotionless Awaclus-bot last time, and he ended up being scum. However, that might just also be his new 'style', so I could count it out, at least for now. So unvote, but I'd be fine with a Joseph lynch. I think we lynch among these three people today:

Joseph
Mail-mi
LaLight

In other words, what you're saying is

"Oh my gosh, everyone who suspects me, you all suck."

No. If their cases were good, I'd understand. As it stands, their case is awful awfuf awful.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #271 on: August 22, 2016, 05:03:27 pm »

Joseph played like an emotionless Awaclus-bot last time, and he ended up being scum. However, that might just also be his new 'style', so I could count it out, at least for now. So unvote, but I'd be fine with a Joseph lynch. I think we lynch among these three people today:

Joseph
Mail-mi
LaLight

In other words, what you're saying is

"Oh my gosh, everyone who suspects me, you all suck."
A few posts ago you were harshly defending Seprix. Did the post from above change and is that something Seprix has not "done many times as town" ?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2016, 05:05:04 pm »

Joseph played like an emotionless Awaclus-bot last time, and he ended up being scum. However, that might just also be his new 'style', so I could count it out, at least for now. So unvote, but I'd be fine with a Joseph lynch. I think we lynch among these three people today:

Joseph
Mail-mi
LaLight

In other words, what you're saying is

"Oh my gosh, everyone who suspects me, you all suck."
A few posts ago you were harshly defending Seprix. Did the post from above change and is that something Seprix has not "done many times as town" ?

Iguana is confusing me as well.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #273 on: August 22, 2016, 05:13:37 pm »

Seprix has not been scummy and the votes on him are bad. Once again, he does things like this as town all the time. I have not played a game where he was scum, but I would expect him to actually be more careful when he has more information to work with. His blunders are an indication that he is town. Read any of his games.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #274 on: August 22, 2016, 05:15:28 pm »

Seprix has not been scummy and the votes on him are bad. Once again, he does things like this as town all the time. I have not played a game where he was scum, but I would expect him to actually be more careful when he has more information to work with. His blunders are an indication that he is town. Read any of his games.
What do the others, more experienced players (especially silver, mail und Roadrunner) think?
Woah I'm in the elite 'experienced player' group?
Seprix is known for making blunders, yes. But I think he does them as both alignments. Probably more so as town.

However, he is a good enough player to put Iguanaiguana at an unannounced L-1 and know everyone will be 'whatever, Seprix will do Seprix-y things.'

So I'm actually going slightly scummy on Seprix.
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