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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 2 spots left!)
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2016, 10:10:00 am »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 2 spots left!)
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2016, 10:15:43 am »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2016, 10:39:26 am »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2016, 10:52:06 am »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?

That's slightly what I want it to be. What do you mean by the last part?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2016, 11:29:17 am »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?

That's slightly what I want it to be. What do you mean by the last part?

Right now the setup has modified PRs and straight VTs, per the explanation post.  So you roll PRs and modifiers in your secret way, then apply them together to random players.  So say you roll:

JK, Tracker, Vigilante, Doctor, Random, Weak, Miller (that's 7)

You match up three modifiers with three of the four PRs and assign them somehow.

Instead of doing that, what if you allow the modifiers to land on players other than the JK, Tracker, Vigilante, or Doctor?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2016, 11:50:00 am »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?

That's slightly what I want it to be. What do you mean by the last part?

Right now the setup has modified PRs and straight VTs, per the explanation post.  So you roll PRs and modifiers in your secret way, then apply them together to random players.  So say you roll:

JK, Tracker, Vigilante, Doctor, Random, Weak, Miller (that's 7)

You match up three modifiers with three of the four PRs and assign them somehow.

Instead of doing that, what if you allow the modifiers to land on players other than the JK, Tracker, Vigilante, or Doctor?

That fits much better with what I want to do!  Although I may need to change some things up.  Many of the modifiers don't affect VTs, so maybe change the way they are assigned to players?  I'm afraid if I do too much, it just becomes too complicated.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2016, 11:52:58 am »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?

That's slightly what I want it to be. What do you mean by the last part?

Right now the setup has modified PRs and straight VTs, per the explanation post.  So you roll PRs and modifiers in your secret way, then apply them together to random players.  So say you roll:

JK, Tracker, Vigilante, Doctor, Random, Weak, Miller (that's 7)

You match up three modifiers with three of the four PRs and assign them somehow.

Instead of doing that, what if you allow the modifiers to land on players other than the JK, Tracker, Vigilante, or Doctor?

That fits much better with what I want to do!  Although I may need to change some things up.  Many of the modifiers don't affect VTs, so maybe change the way they are assigned to players?  I'm afraid if I do too much, it just becomes too complicated.

It's just, some of the modifiers are more interesting if they are on VTs.  Since they are hidden anyway, it can be on VT without an issue.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2016, 12:08:14 pm »

I'm not convinced the setup will work the way you want.

The modifiers can only apply to the PRs, right?  Given the negatives, feels like you can't trust anything and it ends up being vanilla against Mafia.

What if modifiers can hit VTs and become roles?

That's slightly what I want it to be. What do you mean by the last part?

Right now the setup has modified PRs and straight VTs, per the explanation post.  So you roll PRs and modifiers in your secret way, then apply them together to random players.  So say you roll:

JK, Tracker, Vigilante, Doctor, Random, Weak, Miller (that's 7)

You match up three modifiers with three of the four PRs and assign them somehow.

Instead of doing that, what if you allow the modifiers to land on players other than the JK, Tracker, Vigilante, or Doctor?

That fits much better with what I want to do!  Although I may need to change some things up.  Many of the modifiers don't affect VTs, so maybe change the way they are assigned to players?  I'm afraid if I do too much, it just becomes too complicated.

It's just, some of the modifiers are more interesting if they are on VTs.  Since they are hidden anyway, it can be on VT without an issue.

Lets roll some setups and see how it goes.
So we get:
Bodyguard, Ascetic, bodyguard, miller, JK.  Then we roll those among the 7 town and get: ascetic JK, 2 bodyguards and a miller VT.

JK, Random, Doctor, Weak, RB, Loud, Bodyguard, Loud, Watcher.  Loud RB, Random JK, Weak Doctor, Loud VT, Bodyguard, Watcher.

Bodyguard, vanillaising, Doctor, Ascetic.  You get vanillaising VT, bodyguard, Ascetic Doctor.

Those don't seem like unbalanced setups. 
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2016, 01:11:14 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2016, 01:15:16 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))
Don't worry, I don't know either
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2016, 01:27:35 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))
Don't worry, I don't know either
Hey, RR: Something witty.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2016, 01:28:33 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))

If we told you everything, you might aswell read the wiki.

Some core things: you know mafia kills a person each night. Well town can have roles, too. A town who is also a doctor can protect a player each night, so that if he gets targeted by the kill, he survives. A roleblocker blocks another player from committing an action, which can be good if you hit mafia, bad if you hit e.g. a doctor. A town Cop can target a player at night and learn if he's mafia or town.

So those are power roles. There are lots of them. What they're discussing has to do with power roles and modifications that alter power roles. You'll learn the specifics as you go.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2016, 01:28:42 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))

I wouldn't worry about it.  The stuff we are talking about is just randomizing the roles that will appear in the game.  I want to make a balanced setup so that mafia and town have equal chances of winning, and I also want to make it a fun game for everyone!
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2016, 01:29:17 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))
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Hey, RR: Something witty.

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2016, 01:30:54 pm »

Can someone tell what this all means? :))

If we told you everything, you might aswell read the wiki.

Some core things: you know mafia kills a person each night. Well town can have roles, too. A town who is also a doctor can protect a player each night, so that if he gets targeted by the kill, he survives. A roleblocker blocks another player from committing an action, which can be good if you hit mafia, bad if you hit e.g. a doctor. A town Cop can target a player at night and learn if he's mafia or town.

So those are power roles. There are lots of them. What they're discussing has to do with power roles and modifications that alter power roles. You'll learn the specifics as you go.

Plus if you are a power role (PR), you will be told what it does, and what you have to do.  Plus, you will have a personal place to ask me any questions you might have after the game begins.  It looks like we are going to have a lot of new players in this game, so I will try to make it as newbie friendly as possible.  I almost even want to change it to a newbie mafia game, seeing as we have 3/8 new players right now.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2016, 02:17:13 pm »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2016, 02:17:39 pm »

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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2016, 02:18:22 pm »

And this is actually a hammer, not like the end of M83 when I screwed up.
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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2016, 02:19:26 pm »

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« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2016, 02:37:30 pm »

And this is actually a hammer, not like the end of M83 when I screwed up.
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Signups Open! 1 spot left!)
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2016, 03:06:02 pm »

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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2016, 03:08:40 pm »

So are we keeping the setup or making it a newbie one?
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Re: M85: Olympics Mafia (Full. PMs going out soon!)
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2016, 03:11:48 pm »

So are we keeping the setup or making it a newbie one?

Keeping the setup.  I think it is generally fairly newbie friendly. 
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« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2016, 03:12:48 pm »

Ok PMs are out!

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