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[Davio]

Let's assume Young Witch is the only curser in the kingdom and there's little to no trashing (e.g. Trade Route).

I was wondering, which bane cards are most inflluential to your decisions to:

- Buy Young Witch
- Buy the Bane Card
- Buy both
- Buy neither

I played a game once where Scheme was the bane card and that was pretty funny. I opened Scheme out of fear my opponent would buy YW and I could just continue to put Scheme on top, never getting Cursed. In the end, it turned out my opponent didn't buy Scheme, so I still went with YW and beat him. Was a funny game though.

Lighthouse also makes for a funny Bane.

Are there any cards that you wouldn't otherwise pickup, but if they are a bane, you probably will?

[petrie911]

Something like Menagerie or Fishing Village seems like it would be a bad time to buy Young Witch, as your opponent would be likely to have it.

I always find it funny when Moat is the Bane.

[kn1tt3r]

Scheme is the single best Bane card out there. The worst are bad terminals. Both categories influence YW strategies most obv.

[jotheonah]

Interesting games are where it's something like Workshop, and I might not pick them up otherwise, but I grab one with my 3/4 just in case it gives me a little edge in the cursing, figuring I can use it to pick up the Silver first time it shows.  Later on, after the curses are gone and some other pile is empty, I end up using Workshops to rush the workshop pile and end the game while I'm ahead.

Or I grab Herbalist because it's the bane and the +buy ends up saving my ass totally randomly.

Pawn and Hamlet are nice Banes too since you can absolutely load up on them without too much detriment. I've never seen FG as the Bane, but I'd definitely skip YW if it were.

[Glooble]

I would say there's some detriment to absolutely loading up on Pawns and Hamlets, if only that each turn will take four or five times as long to play...

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When Tunnel is the bane all sorts of strategies come up. Not even sure whats best as I've won and lost with tunnels/witch, tunnels/no witch, witch(s)/no tunnel, and neither(Chapel <3). It really is board dependent at times.

Oh one time I had Chancellor as the bane. Oh the horror...

[Lekkit]

If Tunnel was the bane, I'm pretty sure I would go for Tunnel and Young Witch. It's really good. Give out curses, getting choosing what cards to keep in hand with a lot of gold just lining up.

[WanderingWinder]

Yeah, YW/Tunnel is a pretty killer combo even without Tunnel being bane. WITH it as bane, fuhgeddaboudit.

[HiveMindEmulator]

This may not be the best way to go, but I almost always buy a bane card unless it's clear my opponent is going to skip the young witches. If the bane is an even moderately useful non-terminal and there is any kind of trashing, it's probably better to just open trashing with some banes as needed and skip the young witches.

There are also a couple of really good terminal banes that would usually make me skip the young witch. One is courtyard, which works a lot like scheme. Just buy like 3 of them and keep putting them on top and basically play courtyard+money, and you may take like 1 curse before you have 5 provinces. Swindler is also really strong, since it too gives out curses, which drains them away from the young witch player while also being a generally good card to open with.

Other than that, as long as masq and ambassador aren't around, I usually open young witch.

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You forgot sea hag. I agree with your post otherwise