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Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« on: July 09, 2016, 07:04:02 pm »
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If you want to write about a game you or someone else played during the league, or post links to video coverage, please do so in this thread.

If you've lost a game and want to ask for advice, you can also post it here.
All your questions will be answered.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2016, 11:06:28 pm »
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I played pretty horribly, so I'll want to look at this later.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2016, 02:44:48 pm »
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 01:06:38 pm »
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My B2 match vs. ced:

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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 07:04:30 pm »
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My B2 match vs. ced:

Re: The criticism of my game 3 opener in the youtube comments:
Firstly, I'm on a 4/3. Opening Expedition is only a 60% chance of hitting 5 on turn 2. Yeh, you can rebuy Expedition if you miss, but then all you have is a T3 Count, when Expedition guarantees Count on the reshuffle anyway.
Secondly, I want the economy. Count can get Duchies by itself, sure, but there's two more stacks of victory cards you can upgrade into Provinces, so just emptying the Duchies isn't enough vs somebody who can buy them. Then, once I have the actions in my deck, the events are better buys than Silvers, so the only real time to get them is the opener.

My game 2 opener was pretty bad, though. Perhaps I would have been better off skipping Amulet? HPs can skip the junk, and the combination with Scavenger seems like it would get you to Teacher very quickly.

Game 6 ended up not having any Ruined Villages, did it? Man, the one time it's the best Ruin on the board and it's not even there.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2016, 01:31:43 pm »
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I started uploading my twitch streams to youtube.




is a link to my first match against Dingan.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2016, 03:18:56 pm »
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I played pretty horribly, so I'll want to look at this later.

Watched Game 1.  My thoughts:

Oasis/Oasis open for more +A actions, needed for Golem plan

Played terminal Torturer with an Oasis and a Copper in hand.  Play the Oasis first!

Considered triple Pawn one turn.  Do it!  Again need +A actions

Stonemason for Golem is fine.  For anything else, you are just sticking terminals in your deck to disrupt the Golem plan

Play your +Action actions before Golem!  One time three Pawns that could all be +1A/+$1 weren't played

Took Curses too often because "I can just trash this" but rarely did.  Don't want to waste that terminal slot on Stonemason when you will have Bridges and Torturers to play
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2016, 03:39:08 pm »
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I played pretty horribly, so I'll want to look at this later.

Watched Game 1.  My thoughts:

Oasis/Oasis open for more +A actions, needed for Golem plan

Played terminal Torturer with an Oasis and a Copper in hand.  Play the Oasis first!

Considered triple Pawn one turn.  Do it!  Again need +A actions

Stonemason for Golem is fine.  For anything else, you are just sticking terminals in your deck to disrupt the Golem plan

Play your +Action actions before Golem!  One time three Pawns that could all be +1A/+$1 weren't played

Took Curses too often because "I can just trash this" but rarely did.  Don't want to waste that terminal slot on Stonemason when you will have Bridges and Torturers to play

Watch the rest of the games if you like. I did not play that game very well.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 12:58:00 pm »
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vs. gamesou

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiu5_Rnr45E
More Dungeons please

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GtJ8oBJzek
Apprentice as the only draw

Game 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QefVdHX4dHw
Swamp Hag causes games to lag

Game 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIqD1_rvDsQ
Peasant power

Game 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prlburnh5Y
Bit of money contrast. Scouting Party is great.

Game 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99R2aLfCsaA
Different styles of playing with Page
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 03:40:24 pm »
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Quote from: vsiewnar link=topic=15864.msg620957#msg620957

Game 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99R2aLfCsaA
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I think you underestimate Embassy on this setup.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2016, 01:29:13 pm »
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My B2 match vs. Burning Skull:

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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2016, 01:39:35 pm »
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vs A Drowned Kernel

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7AADUJ-gVU
Plenty Peasants

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1EnllgqMs
Royal Mystic Heralds

Game 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCBbVxGsc28
King of piles - Stonemason

Game 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJjZxpJ2N9Q
Fool's Gold game-ish

Game 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7WdVhFJg4
Adventures after the Curses

Game 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckKLAbSJiP4
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2016, 03:40:32 am »
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My B2 match vs. Burning Skull:

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I really liked the match: lots of great boards and we only played the same strategy in two of them.
It felt like I was just one second behind in most of the games I've lost :P

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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2016, 02:24:48 pm »
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I did my first ever Dominion recording!  My C3 match vs Jean-Michel.



Game 1 - 0:00:00.
Young Witch/Money.  I play awfully, making some terrible decisions and a few misclicks.  I also fail to get 6 early on, lots of useless 5s.  That's made worse by my dumb decision to get a Province on my first 8 rather than a Gold.  I get stomped.  It's my first game in quite some time, and you can tell.
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469643734460.txt

Game 2 - 0:20:16.
Fortress/Rabble engine with Swindlers and Training to spice things up.  I lose this one, though it's semi-close.  Probably closer than it should have been given my awful early chapel luck.
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469644788025.txt

Game 3 - 0:38:03.
I suck at Vineyards games.  Enough said.
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469645387709.txt

Game 4 - 0:48:00.
Colony game, main components are Swamp Hag, Caravan, Bishop and Storyteller.  My first victory of the match, I think aided mostly by my early 5s and Jean-Michel's (perhaps slightly reckless? Hard to say) curse gaining from Swap Hag.
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469646151322.txt

Game 5 - 1:00:31.
Pathfound Magpies with Lost City and Merchant Guild.  I think I'm a bit lucky to win this one.  Fun game!
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469647624941.txt

Game 6 - 1:25:16.
Shelters, Minions, Farming Villages, Crossroads, Woodcutter.  I do many many idiotic things this game including wasting 2 or 3 turns with a Pillage play which contributes nothing.  In spite of all that I nearly take the victory to level the match, but hit 6 instead of 8 when trying to buy the winning Province.  This feels like the one that got away.  I played abysmally.
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160727/log.0.1469649031362.txt
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2016, 04:26:51 pm »
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I tried something new with the sound set-up. It didn't go well at all. Sorry.  :-\
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2016, 04:40:42 pm »
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Haddock match:

Got to do Watchtower/Rats in Game 1. Then you can build the engine, which should be able to beat up money just from using the attacks more. Not to mention you can actually get rid of Curses.

Game 2, probably you realized this now, but when you had triple Swindler/Rabble/Chapel collision early, playing Rabble was the worst of the 3, I like Chapeling 2 cards there. The next time you draw Chapel, you trash just 1 Copper and buy 1 Fortress, I'd rather see you take the last two Fortresses with Ball, but I'm not so sure. I don't like when you Swindle his Embassy into Tribute, why not give him a Duke? And trashing 1 Copper instead of buying Training seems wrong. Several times you play a Rabble before playing Swindlers, you should play Swindlers first because otherwise the two attacks cancel each other out in a way. You talk about being behind because of bad Chapel draws (and they were bad), but in the middle of the game it seemed to me you were quite a bit ahead, with more Fortresses and more of the attacks.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2016, 04:42:02 pm »
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Haddock, relist the video? :)
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2016, 04:50:18 pm »
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Haddock match:

Got to do Watchtower/Rats in Game 1. Then you can build the engine, which should be able to beat up money just from using the attacks more. Not to mention you can actually get rid of Curses.
I didn't see that at all. Very nice!

Game 2, probably you realized this now, but when you had triple Swindler/Rabble/Chapel collision early, playing Rabble was the worst of the 3, I like Chapeling 2 cards there.
hmm. Chapelling the two felt awful. I wanted at least one productive turn that shuffle.  I might agree that swindler would have been better than rabble. Did I draw 2 fortresses with it? Or was that later. I dunno.

 The next time you draw Chapel, you trash just 1 Copper and buy 1 Fortress, I'd rather see you take the last two Fortresses with Ball, but I'm not so sure. I don't like when you Swindle his Embassy into Tribute, why not give him a Duke?
I considered it.  But it was still possible at that point for duchy/Duke to become relevant. Didn't want to help him out with that.  Was also tempted to give him embassy to improve my economy. Think that would have been wrong though.

And trashing 1 Copper instead of buying Training seems wrong.
did I do that? Whoops. I was not with it this match.

 Several times you play a Rabble before playing Swindlers, you should play Swindlers first because otherwise the two attacks cancel each other out in a way.
I even mention this in my video. I realised I was doing it but couldn't stop myself.  My focus levels were really poor. Later it was a positive to do it - I did it intentionally to avoid swindling his fortresses.

 


You talk about being behind because of bad Chapel draws (and they were bad), but in the middle of the game it seemed to me you were quite a bit ahead, with more Fortresses and more of the attacks.
yeah I thought I had a shot in the mid game. He ended up just that one turn ahead.
I do agree that the fortress rabble game was the one that looked closest to a victory, of the ones I lost.  The minion game was close too but shouldn't have been with all my mistakes.

PPE. relist it? Has the link broken? Will do so when at my laptop.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2016, 05:19:16 pm »
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Game 2, probably you realized this now, but when you had triple Swindler/Rabble/Chapel collision early, playing Rabble was the worst of the 3, I like Chapeling 2 cards there.
hmm. Chapelling the two felt awful. I wanted at least one productive turn that shuffle.  I might agree that swindler would have been better than rabble. Did I draw 2 fortresses with it? Or was that later. I dunno.
You drew 2 Fortresses (it was the last 3 cards so it was in theory "known"), all the Rabble did was cycle 1 Copper and let you buy Vagrant. Seems worse to me than removing 2 junk forever.

 The next time you draw Chapel, you trash just 1 Copper and buy 1 Fortress, I'd rather see you take the last two Fortresses with Ball, but I'm not so sure. I don't like when you Swindle his Embassy into Tribute, why not give him a Duke?
I considered it.  But it was still possible at that point for duchy/Duke to become relevant. Didn't want to help him out with that.  Was also tempted to give him embassy to improve my economy. Think that would have been wrong though.
I don't see a way for the game to play out where Duchy/Duke are relevant, Rabble + Swindler beat that up so much plus it's not that hard to empty all the Provinces here.

And trashing 1 Copper instead of buying Training seems wrong.
did I do that? Whoops. I was not with it this match.
Well you bought Rabble + trashed a Copper, so it wasn't that bad, it just seemed like Training time to me.

You talk about being behind because of bad Chapel draws (and they were bad), but in the middle of the game it seemed to me you were quite a bit ahead, with more Fortresses and more of the attacks.
yeah I thought I had a shot in the mid game. He ended up just that one turn ahead.
I do agree that the fortress rabble game was the one that looked closest to a victory, of the ones I lost.  The minion game was close too but shouldn't have been with all my mistakes.
I mean, I thought this game would be an easy win for you even after the early draws, but I admit I wasn't tracking the opponent's deck all that well, so I could be overestimating. I guess I just wanted to say, don't tell yourself you're lost too quickly because then you'll play like it.
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Re: Season 16 - Game Reports & Discussion
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2016, 05:24:23 pm »
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Your last point Mic, I couldn't agree more.

I was tired and hence more prone to tilting than I usually am.  I definitely gave up easier than  I usually would.

After he opened 5/2 I guess I just had it in my head that he was going to be miles ahead. And then yeah I played like it.

My play in general was not up to my usual standards.  Hopefully the rest of my matches this season I'll play better.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2016, 05:39:56 pm »
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And trashing 1 Copper instead of buying Training seems wrong.
did I do that? Whoops. I was not with it this match.
Well you bought Rabble + trashed a Copper, so it wasn't that bad, it just seemed like Training time to me.

On rewatching I remember that I had just temporarily forgotten Training.  I was considering what 6s there were and only saw Gold which I knew I didn't want.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2016, 05:41:45 pm »
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Haddock, relist the video? :)
I'm not sure what you mean - my link works fine for me, are you saying something else?

While I'm multiposting, sorry to any watching for the awful sound quality in the video.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2016, 06:11:57 pm »
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Haddock, relist the video? :)
I'm not sure what you mean - my link works fine for me, are you saying something else?

While I'm multiposting, sorry to any watching for the awful sound quality in the video.

The video you posted is unlisted. It won't show up outside of this thread.
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2016, 06:17:29 pm »
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Haddock, relist the video? :)
I'm not sure what you mean - my link works fine for me, are you saying something else?

While I'm multiposting, sorry to any watching for the awful sound quality in the video.

The video you posted is unlisted. It won't show up outside of this thread.
That's kind of intentional.  I only really want f.ds regulars watching this.  It only limits it to "people who have the link" vs. "people who don't", right?

If there's some other reason to list it I can do that.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2016, 06:20:22 pm »
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Haddock, relist the video? :)
I'm not sure what you mean - my link works fine for me, are you saying something else?

While I'm multiposting, sorry to any watching for the awful sound quality in the video.

The video you posted is unlisted. It won't show up outside of this thread.
That's kind of intentional.  I only really want f.ds regulars watching this.  It only limits it to "people who have the link" vs. "people who don't", right?

If there's some other reason to list it I can do that.

Yes. However, anyone could theoretically share your link with the world.
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