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[gkrieg13]

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

Well yes. But putting my reads out there has helped others contribute

I think now we're talking past each other.

What I mean is that finding others scummy only makes sense if you assume your reads to be false, which is odd, because why would you assume your reads to be false? But you immediately agreed with me when I said that sheeping you is scummy.

I don't need to assume my reads are false, just assume that they could be faulty.

... ...

Where is the difference?

One still has the possibility of my reads being correct

[Roadrunner7671]

Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally

[diedre91]

hmm not really

diedre is copying his reads but he is pretty new. it could be legit.

SA is going in a pretty different direction. I think that's a non-partner tell.

for now I'd say we should lynch in {diedre, gkrieg}.

I did not copy him. I just agreed with him about chairs.

Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally

Hummm... And he is being mod in another game.
There is a real possibility that he is trying to fool us, playing the good guy.

[gkrieg13]

Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally

Well I also don't usually take the lead as either alignment unless no one else is. Look at asherskys blitz mafia. I think I took the lead there and was town.

[Roadrunner7671]

Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally

Well I also don't usually take the lead as either alignment unless no one else is. Look at asherskys blitz mafia. I think I took the lead there and was town.

What do you mean taking the lead?

[silverspawn]

diedre lynch needs to happen I think. I will be reborn through the blood of a virgin. That doesn't really make sense but... <)^

[mail-mi]

gkreig seems really townie to me so far, both in d1 and d2. And the chairs case was an early day 2 case that I agreed with, so I threw down a vote.

chairs' reply is...I'm not sure what to think of it. He is overreacting, and I'm not sure whether that's townie or scummy.

unvote diedre is back, seems townie.

diedre lynch needs to happen I think. I will be reborn through the blood of a virgin. That doesn't really make sense but... <)^

...?

I am going to want an explanation for that.

[silverspawn]

for the tunnel or for the joke?

[mail-mi]

for the tunnel or for the joke?

yes.

[faust]

Vote Count 2.3

That's my Raptor wranglers, always looking for new and interesting ways to get killed.

chairs (2): Calamitas, diedre91
silver (2): iguana, gkrieg13
diedre (1): Roadrunner
mail-mi (1): silverspawn

Not Voting (3): chairs, SpaceAnemone, mail-mi

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: 7pm, 3 September.

[mail-mi]

Chairs only has 2 now? vote: chairs. I still think he's the scummiest one, but I need to reread.

(I don't want to put him at L-1 quite yet, in case of other voting shenanigans.

[gkrieg13]

Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally

Well I also don't usually take the lead as either alignment unless no one else is. Look at asherskys blitz mafia. I think I took the lead there and was town.

What do you mean taking the lead?

I mean drive the conversation

[gkrieg13]

I like the chairs wagon and the silver wagons. Townie people are on those two

[chairs]

I'm... overreacting?

I feel like my only alternative to what I'm doing currently is "fuck it, whatever, lynch me" and that is ACTIVELY an anti-town play.

vote: mail-mi. Screw all this "you're overreacting" bull. Sounds like a good way to line up paranoia.

[silverspawn]

I like the chairs wagon and the silver wagons. Townie people are on those two

Besides you, there are {iguana, calamitas, diedre, mail-mi} on those wagons.

those are towny players? Are you for real?

There are probably both scum among them.

[silverspawn]

replace igu with SA and you have a list of the 4 scummiest people in the game.

[SpaceAnemone]

so back to gkrieg himself...

the problem is that his reads are so basic. chairs is scummy because he put town at L-1. I'm scummy because I'm weird and not as active. diedre is kind of scummy because he's kind of lurky. etc.

everyone who's played mafia for a while knows that this doesn't work.

the igu read is at least a bit more out there, but what does 'meta' even mean in his case.

still this isn't really a huge scum tell for him.

but if sucm is out there, they should be really inclined to sheep him. now I'm going in circles. I'm too tired to explain this cohseively.

include mail-me in that list. vote: mail-mi

Silver, you're accusing gkrieg of problematic play here, but do you actually think he's scummy? I can see where the mail-mi vote is coming from, but I'd quite like an actual justification for not voting gkrieg directly.

[silverspawn]

but do you actually think he's scummy?

not anymore.

forget the mail-mi vote. vote: diedre

[gkrieg13]

I like the chairs wagon and the silver wagons. Townie people are on those two

Besides you, there are {iguana, calamitas, diedre, mail-mi} on those wagons.

those are towny players? Are you for real?

There are probably both scum among them.

How are calamitas or iguana scummy?

[SpaceAnemone]

I like the chairs wagon and the silver wagons. Townie people are on those two

Besides you, there are {iguana, calamitas, diedre, mail-mi} on those wagons.

those are towny players? Are you for real?

There are probably both scum among them.

How are calamitas or iguana scummy?

They, along with me, are the people diedre townread earlier.. maybe he's suspicious about that?

Maybe my willingness to see the Mail-mi argument made me look like I was trying to distract from the other person who's following your votes? I'm struggling to understand SS's flip-floppiness coming from a town pov unless I assume he's just casting about for reactions he can work with.

[SpaceAnemone]

I suppose I should also react and actually vote! Not expecting a sudden townread from Silver after I explained my thinking in my previous post, but I think that vote: diedre makes sense anyway.

[mail-mi]

Been busy working on RMM35, will do stuff after work.

[gkrieg13]

I'm calling a silverspawn/SpaceAnemone team right now.

[mail-mi]

I suppose I should also react and actually vote! Not expecting a sudden townread from Silver after I explained my thinking in my previous post, but I think that vote: diedre makes sense anyway.

Don't like that first sentence, feels very forced. vote: SA

[silverspawn]

I'm calling you having called a wrong team right now right now.